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Dalai llama ask a child to suck his tongue

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Mooshamoo · 10/04/2023 12:49

Has anyone seen the new video of the Dalai Llama asking a child to suck his tongue. Yes. It sounds bizarre. But it is in the news right now. The video is out there. And the dalai llama is apologising on social media now

Im devastated! I went to see the Dalai Llama in India. He gave a speech on accepting and loving everyone, and that it didn't matter what religion we are. I always told people that it was one of the highlights of my life.

I went through life thinking he was a good person, that he was one of the good ones. To see this today, makes me think oh no is he yet another abuser.

Some people have remarked about this video that sticking your tongue out at someone is a greeting in Tibet.

However - the Dalai Llama kisses the child on the lips in the video, and asks the child to suck his tongue. It does not look right at all.

He has apologised on twitter now.

What do you all think?

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MyopicBunny · 10/04/2023 19:32

There is literally no justifiable reason for any adult to ask any child to suck their tongue. NONE.

What about the child in all this? I wonder how he is feeling?

Sudeko · 10/04/2023 19:33

Since dementia can start early, can all the other pedos use it as an excuse as well? It is very much a nod towards the theory that pedos are not evil, they have brain abnormalities which is sadly how I have suspected it will play out for all of them over time.

MarshaBradyo · 10/04/2023 19:34

Suzi888 · 10/04/2023 19:31

No. It’s an excuse. A sickening excuse. If we are to believe he’s suddenly has dementia and an inclination toward children, wouldn’t a public appearance be cancelled, or at least one involving children.

I think it’ll be the story they run with though.

I find the dementia excuse troubling. Has anyone suggested this based on other behaviours

He could just be what people are seeing

Burgoo · 10/04/2023 19:35

I don't believe Mr Lama is some massive paedo and I do think that he has made a real blunder with this. I suspect he did it in a light-hearted way but completely misjudged the whole situation. He has form for having these types of jokes with well-wishers and is generally (from what I have read over the years) a rather jovial, free-spirited type.

I am not even going to say this is abusive. He seems to have thought it was a fairly innocent thing to do - otherwise why do it in front of many cameras and people?

Extremely inappropriate? Definitely.

Abusive and paedophilic? I don't see it.
Lets not jump on the "OMG ABUSER!!!! RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!!!" narrative. It's not helpful.

It is interesting how he may well have not even seen anything sexualised in the exchange and it is the public who make connotations with sex in the instance.

Sudeko · 10/04/2023 19:36

When is asking a child to suck tongues anything other than overtly sexual?

AllIsBest · 10/04/2023 19:37

@onirgellep

So it's complicated

😂Yeah, no. Not so complicated. If the DL has dementia and if his sexually abusive behaviour towards the boy is due to said hypothetical dementia, the DL needs to be kept kept away from youngsters. That part is not complicated or is it?

pickledandpuzzled · 10/04/2023 19:39

So this link addresses that kind of behaviour. So it's certainly not unheard of.

Dalai llama ask a child to suck his tongue
MyopicBunny · 10/04/2023 19:39

am not even going to say this is abusive. He seems to have thought it was a fairly innocent thing to do - otherwise why do it in front of many cameras and people?

Maybe he thinks he's untouchable and believes his own hype.

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onirgellep · 10/04/2023 19:40

Sudeko · 10/04/2023 19:33

Since dementia can start early, can all the other pedos use it as an excuse as well? It is very much a nod towards the theory that pedos are not evil, they have brain abnormalities which is sadly how I have suspected it will play out for all of them over time.

Typically paedophiles start their offending in mid-adolescence

Dementia in teenagers is vanishingly rare

So no, not likely at all

BirdChirp · 10/04/2023 19:42

Sudeko · 10/04/2023 19:21

That article does not reference pedophilia. It alludes to a magnification of your previous sexual tendencies and a shedding of inhibitions surrounding those which sadly suggests that he may have been either suppressing pedophilic sexual urges, acting upon them and/or has merely now dropped his inhibitions. I don't put it within the usual spectrum of sexual perversion and fetishes. It stands apart in it's core nature and motivations.

The article I posted? I don't know why you are trying to deny that it can be a symptom. Fair enough to argue that he may or may not have dementia, but not that very sexually inappropriate behaviour can happen with dementia.

From the paper I posted:

"ISB can be divided in conventional and non-paraphilic (i.e., sexual interest arise within socially and culturally accepted boundaries), versus unconventional and paraphilic (i.e., sexual arousal that deviates from previous restrictions, for instance, involving children, animals, and non-consenting people)"

Inkanta · 10/04/2023 19:42

Turned my stomach when I saw. He's bloody weird. No excuses. Won't be taking any notice of him.again.

Sudeko · 10/04/2023 19:44

onirgellep · 10/04/2023 19:40

Typically paedophiles start their offending in mid-adolescence

Dementia in teenagers is vanishingly rare

So no, not likely at all

Supposing that he does have dementia. With all the people protecting him and the reputation of the movement, we will never get to the bottom of whether this was sudden-onset or merely acting out his private behaviour in public because the dementia has made him drop his inhibitions. Nobody is ever going to admit to the worst case scenario. The bunch of enablers who sat around him in reverence while he did it did not seem very startled by his actions.

AnorLondo · 10/04/2023 19:47

GingerbreadBaking · 10/04/2023 18:24

Humans ars imperfect, people don't deem to accept this, sometimes about themselves, sometimes about others.

Jesus organised his religion the way it is, some didn't like it and set up sub sects, you can't stop them, UK law gives them freedom to worship God.

If you want to live religion free, good luck, I have never met someone who isn't, they replace it with politics, things like running brownies, works-Diversity/equality/inclusion/"be kind to special people, not yourself"/intersectionality , Greta and the earth will end in 10 years, making money, clothes, diets along with their 'priest' -telling them what to think, language abd behaviour-the slimming world woman, interior design or their family their God, the list goes on.

We live in a country where you are free to worship yourself as God.

I'm not sure running Brownies or interior design can be counted as religions. Or anything that you listed really.

Sudeko · 10/04/2023 19:48

I'll probably hold fire until they act to prevent him from coming into contact with children but I am sorely disappointed on behalf of so many people that it has come to this. I really hope it isn't swept under the carpet.

TrombonesAreNotBones · 10/04/2023 19:48

It is abusive.

The advance was sexual. Unless you can show me that a tongue sucking request from an adult to a child is a perfectly normal everyday occurrence, I shan't change my mind. HINT: it's not normal or everyday for a man to request a child sucks any part of his body. Ever.

GingerbreadBaking · 10/04/2023 19:55

AnorLondo · 10/04/2023 19:47

I'm not sure running Brownies or interior design can be counted as religions. Or anything that you listed really.

People can worship all sorts and make God's of even themselves.

HikingforScenery · 10/04/2023 19:57

Many people from the beginning of time has interpreted religion to suit their agenda. Everyone needs to find out their own truth tbh

Sudeko · 10/04/2023 19:58

Whatever caused him to behave like this, It still contributes to a damaging normalization of pedophilia. For a child to have to process that is unthinkable really. If his dementia is being monitored then it is not working. If any of those twits sitting by him were minding him then they need to be booted out. I seriously do not believe his exposure to children will be reduced because of his untouchable status.

WhateverYouSayEh · 10/04/2023 20:04

In my extended family it was normal and expected to kiss relatives on the lips. Even still I absolutely hated it. I remember squirming every time I had to say goodbye to my nanna who had dementia, her lips coming towards me for a slobbery kiss. Leaving aside the tongue part for a moment, is kissing children on the lips considered abusive now? Genuine question

Forcing and grabbing a child who is obviously not wanting your mouth on them, or catching then when they've tried to get away and forcing them is yes. My family made me do that too, especially my Dad. If I cried or tried to squirm I'd be called rude and sometimes told it shows i don't care about them or that I'm ungrateful if I'd been given a gift for Xmas.

My dads best friend went to kiss me when he was babysitting one night, I'd just hit puberty I wanted to say no but because I'd been told and told and told how rude it is to say no and trying to squirm away, I didn't stop him and that man raped me so I admit I'm biased.

The irony of my father when I told him as an adult what his friend had done turning round and telling me "why didn't you stop him when he kissed you?" Maybe because I'd had TEN years of being told how ignorant and rude it is to say fucking no.

None of my siblings raised their kids so they had to expect adults be allowed to kiss or hug them if they don't want to. I Kissing on the lips itself isn't abusive but coercing and forcing when the child is obviously not ok like the boy on the vid, or if they're squinting to get away, I think is abusive. At the very least, when you think the stats show that the abuser of a child is often family or someone known to them, it's not a very responsible way to model the concept of consent and family should be empowering children how to say no.

Feel sorry for the little boy in that clip, bad enough he had to experience that creep but he's got the a lot of people in the world minimising it too.

AnorLondo · 10/04/2023 20:12

GingerbreadBaking · 10/04/2023 19:55

People can worship all sorts and make God's of even themselves.

Whatever you say. Not convinced brownie leaders think of themselves as Gods though.

isadoradancing123 · 10/04/2023 20:16

I hate people who make excuses, maybe a brain tumour, maybe onset dementia, maybe this, that or the other. Stop , there is no excuse, for this behaviour, and he should step down immediately. Apologising means absolutely nothing.

CordyLines · 10/04/2023 20:18

I get a feeling that this disgraceful spectacle will not be news for long. Powerful men surround him and he is power personified himself.

ananass · 10/04/2023 20:27

Burgoo · 10/04/2023 19:35

I don't believe Mr Lama is some massive paedo and I do think that he has made a real blunder with this. I suspect he did it in a light-hearted way but completely misjudged the whole situation. He has form for having these types of jokes with well-wishers and is generally (from what I have read over the years) a rather jovial, free-spirited type.

I am not even going to say this is abusive. He seems to have thought it was a fairly innocent thing to do - otherwise why do it in front of many cameras and people?

Extremely inappropriate? Definitely.

Abusive and paedophilic? I don't see it.
Lets not jump on the "OMG ABUSER!!!! RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!!!" narrative. It's not helpful.

It is interesting how he may well have not even seen anything sexualised in the exchange and it is the public who make connotations with sex in the instance.

I am not even going to say this is abusive. He seems to have thought it was a fairly innocent thing to do - otherwise why do it in front of many cameras and people?

That’s what they said about Jimmy Savile whilst he was assaulting girls live on TOTP

*DISTURBING* Footage shows Jimmy Savile sexually assaulting a young girl on live TV

SHOCKING footage has emerged of British television icon Jimmy Savile assaulting a young woman live on air, she is said to be one of 300 victims abused by the...

https://youtu.be/NxSnQ6K4guA

beatrice14 · 10/04/2023 20:32

Is it really true that dementia or enforced celibacy could turn someone into a paedophile? If true that's horrible..