DSD doesn’t want to go to Russia (I don’t blame her)

[CatherineEarnshawsGhost]

Hello,

Just wanted to see what others think about this situation.

DSD (11) has three passports - A European one from her dad (not British, an EU), an Australian one and a Russian one. My DH’s exW is Russian and is planning a trip to visit family in the Urals during the Summer holidays. DSD’s mum is now in the process of renewing their Russian passports as I guess they have both lapsed.

I suppose it’ll be a bit of a rigmarole to get there as they’ll have to fly via Turkey to get to Moscow. When they do get there I think they’d have to rely on cash (Rubles) as western bank cards won’t work and their British phones will probably have to be switched off in advance because when the Russian phone company detects a UK phone number on their network they are likely to become highly suspicious and track that phone (I work in telecoms, this isn’t unfounded paranoia they can do this so probably will).

Now that DSD is aware of the plan she’s voicing the fact that she’s feeling a bit nervous at the prospect of going. Honestly I don’t blame her. DH is also quite worried and would rather they don’t risk it, but doesn’t want to stop his DD from seeing her GPs and GGM who is 89 (I think). Overall DH wants what’s best for his DD so that would probably mean not going to a hostile country which is currently at odds with the west. He’s just needs to diplomatically approach his exW for the best outcome (no idea how he does that so I’ll leave it to him).

AIBU for being a bit nervous about seeing DSD go off to Russia?

Anyone else experienced this (unlikely but just checking)

Thanks!

I am not ashamed to be Russian. Why should I? Are you ashamed to be British?

It's just unbelievable, especially from a person with "moral"...

Are you not ashamed to be snobbish British? I would be in you place, it's disgusting.

Have a nice sleep too, hope you'll change your mind tomorrow and show us an example how to change politics minds and action. ULEZ expansion is waiting for you!

Absolutely no. How does the Mum think seeing an 89 year old relative in Russia at this incredibly volatile time is safe or a priority? I would make sure your DH says no and seek the relevant legal advice about this.

I am vere very surprised that such behavior is ok on mumsnet. Someone is tryng to put shame on me for my nationality, for the place of my birth... Do anyone here ashamed to be British? Or ashamed to be black/white/asian? Or ashamed to be blond/red/brunette? Or ashamed to have blue/brown eyes? How is that even possible to put shame on someone based on nationality? Just can't comprehend it. Is it her, in UK, people shoud be ahamed of their origin?

Ugh, some hideous xenophobia on this thread, I’m surprised it’s not been deleted.

It is horrible, and this person tells about what is moral and what is not... How is that even possible in this country at this century?

Not in the slightest bit unreasonable.

If she travels into Russia on a Russian passport, she will struggle to get consular assistance if she needs it.

It is a corrupt, unstable country with little or no regard for international conventions. There is NO way any child of mine would be visiting.

Literally over my dead body.

Nothing wrong with travelling with Russia, probably safer than USA.

🙄

Like most things, you're better to ask someone that's Russian or has been there recently rather than randoms on mumsnet. If there's no threat to her, then she should definitely go to see her family. I can understand if she was going to Ukraine why you'd be worried.

I am vere very surprised that such behavior is ok on mumsnet. Someone is tryng to put shame on me for my nationality, for the place of my birth... Do anyone here ashamed to be British?

It's not OK and anyone that suggested that, for example, Muslims should be ashamed because a minority of thugs and weirdos committed terrorist attacks who be lynched on here.

For some reason anti-Russian sentiment is 'fine', which perhaps demonstrates that none of us are above conditioning and manipulation in our views and what we tacitly accept as truth.

Putin and his cronies are the enemy, not the mass of Russian people.

Totally agree with you.

Lots of people are ashamed of their countries for action carried out in their name

How ludicrous to cry "victim"

And how ludicrous to equate that with Muslims.

This victimhood is so crass

Good post and good advice

It's hard to read the mocking but yes, best ignored.

So it means you still not ready to tell about your origin? That's ok. But let me tell you this - don't be ashamed about your origins, just accept it, it' nothing wrong with your birth country, it is how it is and it's not going to change. Maybe it will help you to feel better about yorself

@Amispringy I don't really see how this is relevant? Brits should be incredibly ashamed of the atrocities and genocide their own country got very rich off, for the last few hundreds of years but as late as the 1950s, 1960s.

The effects have devastated my country and many other countries. It's in fact a core part of our A-level curriculum, and it turned my stomach learning all about the awful inhumanity and violence, and hearing about the later years from my grandparents. The depth of depravity inflicted on non-white populations over hundreds of years is disgusting and graphic.

But all of you are so ignorant and brainwashed you know absolutely nothing about your own recent history – a fact that boggles my mind! Some people even think you benefited the natives rather than killed and impoverished thriving civilisations....!

Brits live a normal first world life less than a century later off these spoils. I don't go round shaming everyone on Mumsnet for living normally and having daily first world problems off the back of tortured, captured, murdered, starving, ill-treated masses.

Thank you!