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To think this is an excessive amount of drinking?

152 replies

WinoOrWinning · 06/04/2023 10:38

Long story short, but my family (husband and 2 young children) are on holiday with some of my other family members.

My immediate family don't drink much. Only a glass while socialising when out. So maybe once a month. We don't drink at home. The other members of my family we are holidaying with seem to be drinking quite a lot. I am somewhat used to this as I grew up with them. But my husband and children did not. I know my husband is biting his tongue at the amount they're drinking and feels it's not a good influence for the children to see and also feels I should be saying something because they're all quite overweight and it's obviously not healthy to consumer so many empty calories. I don't feel it's really my place to tell grown adults they shouldn't be drinking because of their health. They can see how big they are, and no adult likes to be told what to do.

I feel a bit stuck between the two sides. The other family members aren't drinking enough to get drunk (there are 3), but they are going through about 3-4 bottles of wine a day. Having it as their only liquid with lunch and dinner as well as after.

Out of curiosity (because we don't really drink) is this considered an excessive amount of alcohol to consume daily? Or is it fairly normal? I'm quite shocked to see the amount of empty bottles accumulating after only a few days so far. AIBU to think that 3-4 bottles of wine a day split between 3 people is too much? Or is this the norm?

OP posts:
GasPanic · 06/04/2023 12:22

Presumably your husband knew what your family were like before you went away. After all, its not like you go from being a puritanical teetotal marathon runner to a 25 stone obese drinking person overnight. So if he dislikes them that much and is so judgemental about their lifestyles and concerned about the effect it might have on the kids why go away with them in the first place.

samesame2023 · 06/04/2023 12:24

WinoOrWinning · 06/04/2023 12:15

Two are for sure. One has been to AA previously and had quite drinking for years, but is now drinking again. Luckily not to excess and into a stupor as they did previously. The other drinks 1-2 bottles daily wherever they are and I do find it incredibly sad to see that they feel they need to drink like that to have an enjoyable evening.

But to each their own I guess. It's my husband that is judgemental and putting me in an awkward situation, but obviously I don't say anything to them as I know it's not my place. But I do find it very sad.

Bit of a drip feed there OP.

Deathbyfluffy · 06/04/2023 12:25

It's their life, leave them to it. I'm sure they could pick holes in your lifestyle but choose not to - as that'd be a bit cunty.

RosesInWater · 06/04/2023 12:26

OP, why are you holidaying with such creatures of disdain for you and your family?

In future you should go away only with your own family unit, and enjoy the freedom of not having to judge anyone.

weddingdaydancet · 06/04/2023 12:28

It’s beyond me how you’re enjoying your holiday with all that sadness going on. And they are alcoholics who can control their intake ro a bottle a day split between lunch and dinner. Wow.

NeverHadANickname · 06/04/2023 12:28

weddingdaydancet · 06/04/2023 10:52

so a bottle a day is a glass with lunch and two with dinner, not excessive on holiday.

I find the bigger crime you and your husbands judgemental attitude about their size and the empty calories etc.

I agree with this. Every day, not good. A glass or 2 with meals on holiday, not a major crime.

NeverHadANickname · 06/04/2023 12:32

WinoOrWinning · 06/04/2023 12:15

Two are for sure. One has been to AA previously and had quite drinking for years, but is now drinking again. Luckily not to excess and into a stupor as they did previously. The other drinks 1-2 bottles daily wherever they are and I do find it incredibly sad to see that they feel they need to drink like that to have an enjoyable evening.

But to each their own I guess. It's my husband that is judgemental and putting me in an awkward situation, but obviously I don't say anything to them as I know it's not my place. But I do find it very sad.

If they are alcoholics and this isn't just a holiday thing for them then that puts a very different spin on it than them just drinking on holiday 🤦‍♀️ holiday drinking itself isn't the problem here.

FusionChefGeoff · 06/04/2023 12:32

Be careful about "drilling it into them" about how unhealthy it is. And passing on your own seeming bias that fat people are lesser in some way.

I have a deep seated / subconscious fear of gaining weight / being fat thanks to my Mum doing the same and as such have had horrendously disordered eating since teens. Currently battling binge eating and bulimia aged 43.

She's horribly judgemental of anyone who's overweight and it's fucked me right up.

MissHavishamsMouldyOldCake · 06/04/2023 12:33

I bet every time a new bottle is opened OP's husband does 50 push ups whilst maintaining eye contact with this dissolute lot.

weddingdaydancet · 06/04/2023 12:33

If they are alcoholics and this isn't just a holiday thing for them then that puts a very different spin on it than them just drinking on holiday 🤦‍♀️ holiday drinking itself isn't the problem here

there isn’t an alcoholic alive who can control their alcohol intake like this.

kingofchaos · 06/04/2023 12:36

Although I strongly suspect this is a wind up to get the 'small sherry at Christmas' crew frothing at the mouth.

Dustybarn · 06/04/2023 12:41

It’s pretty average for a holiday. Problematic in real life though.

Tell your judgy husband to look up those handy calculators to see how many daily units of alcohol one needs to consume to make a cruise drinks package viable and he will get an education about the reality of how much many people drink. Those drinks packages are massively popular and you see people starting on the booze at 10am. That makes your relatives look restrained.

HelpsHeal · 06/04/2023 12:43

weddingdaydancet · 06/04/2023 12:33

If they are alcoholics and this isn't just a holiday thing for them then that puts a very different spin on it than them just drinking on holiday 🤦‍♀️ holiday drinking itself isn't the problem here

there isn’t an alcoholic alive who can control their alcohol intake like this.

Quite. The "fact" that two of these people are confirmed alcoholics is quite a drip feed, but also highly unlikely. If they are, wow, haven't they done brilliantly

cupofteaandabiccyplease · 06/04/2023 12:50

Dh needs to unclench somewhat, they are adults they know the risks or don't care. I doobt very much your dc are that bothered about the drinking, but they seem to be hearing about it from judgy parents.
I'm diabetic type 2 who is span,living a shorter than expected life because I eat what I want in moderation and not going to be dictated to about food /drink by anyone.

GoodChat · 06/04/2023 12:51

MissHavishamsMouldyOldCake · 06/04/2023 12:33

I bet every time a new bottle is opened OP's husband does 50 push ups whilst maintaining eye contact with this dissolute lot.

Then he downs a pint of water

Oakyloaky · 06/04/2023 12:52

GasPanic · 06/04/2023 12:22

Presumably your husband knew what your family were like before you went away. After all, its not like you go from being a puritanical teetotal marathon runner to a 25 stone obese drinking person overnight. So if he dislikes them that much and is so judgemental about their lifestyles and concerned about the effect it might have on the kids why go away with them in the first place.

This...your husband sounds awful!

Miajk · 06/04/2023 12:54

WinoOrWinning · 06/04/2023 12:15

Two are for sure. One has been to AA previously and had quite drinking for years, but is now drinking again. Luckily not to excess and into a stupor as they did previously. The other drinks 1-2 bottles daily wherever they are and I do find it incredibly sad to see that they feel they need to drink like that to have an enjoyable evening.

But to each their own I guess. It's my husband that is judgemental and putting me in an awkward situation, but obviously I don't say anything to them as I know it's not my place. But I do find it very sad.

You and your DH seem really judgy.

Do you not smoke? Exercise regularly? Don't drink? Never eat sugar?

Are you the perfect poster child of health and wellness or do you selectively judge people for the things they do.

The fact you're mentioning their weight is very telling - yes drinking isn't healthy, but it's actually not healthy in any quantity, and it's not healthy whether you're thin or fat.

Maybe don't go on holiday with them again if you and your DH are so bored all you can do is spend time judging people in your heads.

Changechangechanging · 06/04/2023 12:54

Wow. How unpleasant. Don’t dare put any weight on, OP.

Oakyloaky · 06/04/2023 12:55

If they really are alcoholics who drink two bottles a day they are actually doing really well drinking just over a bottle whilst on holiday!

maddy68 · 06/04/2023 12:56

They are on holiday. It's not for you to judge !

Shoxfordian · 06/04/2023 12:57

You sound fairly judgemental as well op; they’re enjoying their holidays so leave them to it. I’m sure you can go back to your tap water and carrots soon enough

Vintagecreamandcottagepie · 06/04/2023 13:02

Yabu

Manichean · 06/04/2023 13:03

DH has got his judgey pants pulled up too tight.

Vintagecreamandcottagepie · 06/04/2023 13:04

And yaabu with the drip feeds where you increase their drinking with every new post, and makes me doubt your impartiality in presenting the facts.

Crazyinlove123 · 06/04/2023 13:05

I think I would have a better time with your relatives than you and your husband tbh. How sanctimonious you both seem

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