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Partner 5 years won't buy a house with me but says I should buy on my own...

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spinandspaghetti · 05/04/2023 16:06

This is the first time I've posted but this is a question that is really starting to affect me and I'd love some perspective on whether I'm being overly sensitive/unreasonable or if something really is up here...

Sorry in advance for the long post!

We are in a very fortunate position in that we are now in a financial position to buy a flat. My parents can loan us some money, I have savings for a deposit and we both work full time so we can get the mortgage we need for a half decent place. I am keen to buy somewhere together for both financial and emotional reasons. We are both in our early 30s and I am fed up after 10 years of expensive and insecure renting. Our mortgage repayments would be less than our current rent and of course we’d be contributing towards something tangible. I would also love to choose our own place together, decorate and build a home as partners - somewhere we could start a family. I don’t feel particularly settled in London whereas he grew up here and I think having a place of our own would really help me to feel more secure and grounded.

He on the other hand doesn’t want to buy a place. He’s happy renting and keeping our finances separate. He says he would prefer to save up some more and get a better place a few years down the line. He thinks buying is risky and likes the flexibility of renting. These reasons don’t really make sense to me - we aren't after flexibility, we’re not looking to move around as we both have career commitments here that will last minimum 3 years and even if house prices drop, we'll have saved by not renting? I’m also not getting any younger and would like to start a family in the not too distant future. His response to this is always just, “I’ve made my position clear” which is really frustrating...

I wonder whether the real reason is he’s worried about long-term commitment with me or doesn’t like the idea of taking my parent’s money. He assures me these aren’t the reasons and has encouraged me to buy on my own because he can see how much I’m beginning to resent renting. We have now found ourselves in a weird position where I am buying a place (with a smaller budget) on my own and he will be renting from me. I understand how we’ve got here because it seems to be a compromise - he’s still renting, I’m still buying - but I just feel really confused, alone and sad about the whole thing. He would rather rent from me and have no stake in the flat than buy as partners? He also says he wants to get married but wants to make sure we’ve done everything we can to “reduce the risk” first as he’s concerned with the statistics around divorce being among the most stressful life events. He never brings that conversation up though and I’ve stopped asking what ‘reduce the risk’ actually looks like.

What should I do? Do I let this all go and try to be happy with the compromise we’ve taken or is this a sign of bigger problems to come?

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ArmchairAnarchist2 · 05/04/2023 17:58

The sarcastic side of me thinks you're just a convenient place marker until he's ready for 'the one' but I think on some level you know it.
I'm older but I've seen this happen so often where there's a 10 years relationship with no commitment, the woman gets dumped and within a year her ex is married to someone else with children closely behind.
Even if he isn't a huge fan of marriage and buying a house, if he loved you enough and was as committed as he says about children, he'd want to do what made you happy. He hasn't shown you any evidence of this being for life.

JustMarriedBecca · 05/04/2023 17:58

I don't think 5 years is indicative. I met my husband at 20, we only married at 30. We weren't ready at 25 (we actually split briefly because I felt we'd gotten together too young before getting back together). I was also going to say that we've been married now for 10 years and what your partner is saying is almost exactly what I heard. He's just a stats guy which, leading to logic, is one of his attractive qualities.

So I was coming to say hang on in there and listen to your friends in real life who know you both over random people on the internet.

THEN I read your comment about his Mum and I don't think you can avoid discussing that now. You need to know where you stand and he needs to stand up to his Mum.

Eggseggseverywhere · 05/04/2023 17:59

He wants sex on tap without any commitment..

spinandspaghetti · 05/04/2023 18:00

They aren't super close though he is close to his siblings who seem supportive. He will visit her on mother's day and her birthday and call to check in but from what I've overheard they have a very polite relationship - the way I might speak to a great aunt or something. She's never met me so I'm not taking the rejection personally!

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raincamepouringdown · 05/04/2023 18:00

I'd let him rent elsewhere while you move into your own home. Tell him you need some space to think about your relationship, because you're not getting what you want out of it. Let him spend a fortune elsewhere. Tell him you want to 'date' again and not live together. Think he's too comfortable in your arrangement while you're not getting anything out of, really.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 05/04/2023 18:00

You want to buy somewhere where you could start a family - and you want to get married.

That's why he doesn't want to buy - he doesn't want to have kids with you or get married and knows that if he refuses both/makes excuses to kick the can down the road for another five years, he can walk out when a better offer comes along without having to force a sale or pay maintenance. But he's comfortable right now, so he's going to make excuses and try to run down the clock.

Sacmagique75 · 05/04/2023 18:01

From reading your post my immediate thoughts are either:
a) He doesn’t want to commit (to the house or relationship) and while he is happy being with you at the moment, he is keeping his escape route open and easy for when he changes his mind by not financially tying himself to you.
b) He has some significant debts or financial issues that he’s hiding from you and knows will be flushed out during a mortgage approval process.

However, having read your update about his mum, it’s screaming out to me that this is absolutely because she does not approve of the relationship and you are a placeholder for him until someone she does approve of comes along that he will “settle down with”.

The question is do you love him/want to be with him enough to continue the relationship under these circumstances?

Mañanarama · 05/04/2023 18:03

I actually think you’re in a strong position here, financially if not romantically. Buy the house, set up a rent agreement (make sure he has no legal claim on your house if you were to split). Let him move in and see where the relationship heads. IF you decide to buy together in years to come, make sure he contributes an equal amount as you. IF it turns out he doesn’t want kids, kick him out. You will still own a house.

shutthewindownow · 05/04/2023 18:03

Seems crazy to be paying a mortgage and a rent that is just a waste. I don't think he is committed to you otherwise why wouldn't he see this a great opportunity to own something and move forward with your life together. Buying will always be more sensible than renting. It's a no brainier

TomatoSandwiches · 05/04/2023 18:04

I wouldn't be buying a house with a man that hasn't married me sorry, I don't think he is that in to you.
I would save hard for as long as you can to up your own savings and then move on.

Aweebitpainful · 05/04/2023 18:04

You deserve better than this

GhoulWithADragonTattoo · 05/04/2023 18:07

Cut your losses, he's just not that into you.

MysteryBelle · 05/04/2023 18:07

He’s not committed to you. After five years. You will never be happy with him. ‘I’ve made my position clear.’ He’s an ass of the lowest order. I had boyfriends with that same attitude. They were not keepers.

My husband wanted to marry me soon after beginning to date (no I wasn’t looking for just anybody who wanted to get married), we got engaged and were married a year after dating. Obviously everyone is on a different timetable but my point is that if he can’t commit after five years, then he’s not worthy of you. Also, my husband basically turned over all his finances to me. He wanted to. We have one shared account. His checks automatically go into the shared account and I decide where it goes, the bills to pay, savings, etc, if he wants something he’ll ask if we can afford it. We decide together on big things. I recommend this shared system because I can say that we have not had even one tiny problem with our finances in 26 years.

Now, if you don’t trust the person or you simply want separate then of course don’t do this. It’s fine to keep separate finances if you’re both happy that way but it certainly shows the level of trust and commitment when partners share their finances, their lives in marriage, and sharing a mortgage and home together. You’re a team.

Free yourself from this ogre. He is not team or partner material. You should be able to be excited about buying a house together, have fun decorating it, shopping together for furniture, with your partner, but instead he’s an ass.

Dump him and don’t look back.

GrimDamnFanjo · 05/04/2023 18:09

Your update about his mother just confirmed my thoughts.
It will be painful - I've been there myself - but you owe your future self some happiness.
He knows if he buys with you he's making a commitment and he just isn't able to do that.
Set him free. If he really loves you he'll change his mind.

Catastrophejane · 05/04/2023 18:10

None of his arguments make sense…unless he doesn’t want to commit to you.

If he wants to save to buy a bigger place in 5 years, the best way to do that is get on the property ladder.

in 5 years you’ll be late 30’s which is actually quite late ( though not unusual in London) to start a family.

5 years is long enough to know if you want to spend the rest of your life with someone. If he still isn’t sure, it’s a no.

Time to finish it and find someone who is committed.

Wavescrashingonthebeach · 05/04/2023 18:10

You've been with him 5 years and you haven't met his Mum?!?!?!?!?! This tells you everything you need to know.
He is not committed to you and never will be. Don't have him as a lodger just run a mile.

strawberry2017 · 05/04/2023 18:10

If he's a doctor in his early 30's I'm guessing a mountain of student loans which may make getting a mortgage difficult.
I think it's time for a proper honest discussion. I'm not sure his commitment to you is there. X

ThankmelaterOkay · 05/04/2023 18:11

I’d move him in. You can always serve a section 21.

Dixiechickonhols · 05/04/2023 18:11

Buy on your own. If he does move in as a lodger make sure you get proper legal advice. In limited circumstances he could try to claim a beneficial interest in your property if he’s done diy eg put a new kitchen in.
It honesty sounds like he’s not with you for long haul.

Instructionmanual · 05/04/2023 18:13

Unfortunately you need to consider whether he's the right life partner for you. My instinct is you need to ditch him. Certainly not start a family with him.

Wavescrashingonthebeach · 05/04/2023 18:13

Do not move him in with you. How are you going to meet Mr Right with Mr Commitment Phobe lodging?! Far too much baggage and issues. Clean break would be far better.

mewkins · 05/04/2023 18:13

TeaForMeandThee · 05/04/2023 17:57

Reading your last post I think he knows his family will never accept you, he is happy with you for now but knows he will eventually need to end it to marry the girl his family will accept. You will be strung along until he decides it's time to get married, unfortunately that won't be to you. Don't waste your fertile years on him. If I was 5 years into a relationship and aged 30 I'd be wanting some sort of commitment, whether a proposal and wedding planning or house buying. We don't have forever as women to have children, don't be deluded into thinking if you wait another x years he'll suddenly change his mind and commit, if he doesn't want to commit now, he won't ever commit.

Bin him off and buy your flat, you'll find someone who actually wants the same things, just don't waste time on this relationship.

I agree with this. Even if he'd love to have a future with you, he doesn't have the courage to go against his family.

Moonshine5 · 05/04/2023 18:13

Leave (for the right reasons) before you become desperate. With all due respect after hearing about the family set up 100% this man will not marry you and not make any long term commitment (financial or otherwise). Be grateful you found out now.

Justalittlebitduckling · 05/04/2023 18:13

I’m sorry OP but after five years together at your age if he’s not ready for serious commitment then I don’t think he’s going to be.

GGBOY · 05/04/2023 18:14

I’d end the relationship OP. You deserve better.

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