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Partner 5 years won't buy a house with me but says I should buy on my own...

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spinandspaghetti · 05/04/2023 16:06

This is the first time I've posted but this is a question that is really starting to affect me and I'd love some perspective on whether I'm being overly sensitive/unreasonable or if something really is up here...

Sorry in advance for the long post!

We are in a very fortunate position in that we are now in a financial position to buy a flat. My parents can loan us some money, I have savings for a deposit and we both work full time so we can get the mortgage we need for a half decent place. I am keen to buy somewhere together for both financial and emotional reasons. We are both in our early 30s and I am fed up after 10 years of expensive and insecure renting. Our mortgage repayments would be less than our current rent and of course we’d be contributing towards something tangible. I would also love to choose our own place together, decorate and build a home as partners - somewhere we could start a family. I don’t feel particularly settled in London whereas he grew up here and I think having a place of our own would really help me to feel more secure and grounded.

He on the other hand doesn’t want to buy a place. He’s happy renting and keeping our finances separate. He says he would prefer to save up some more and get a better place a few years down the line. He thinks buying is risky and likes the flexibility of renting. These reasons don’t really make sense to me - we aren't after flexibility, we’re not looking to move around as we both have career commitments here that will last minimum 3 years and even if house prices drop, we'll have saved by not renting? I’m also not getting any younger and would like to start a family in the not too distant future. His response to this is always just, “I’ve made my position clear” which is really frustrating...

I wonder whether the real reason is he’s worried about long-term commitment with me or doesn’t like the idea of taking my parent’s money. He assures me these aren’t the reasons and has encouraged me to buy on my own because he can see how much I’m beginning to resent renting. We have now found ourselves in a weird position where I am buying a place (with a smaller budget) on my own and he will be renting from me. I understand how we’ve got here because it seems to be a compromise - he’s still renting, I’m still buying - but I just feel really confused, alone and sad about the whole thing. He would rather rent from me and have no stake in the flat than buy as partners? He also says he wants to get married but wants to make sure we’ve done everything we can to “reduce the risk” first as he’s concerned with the statistics around divorce being among the most stressful life events. He never brings that conversation up though and I’ve stopped asking what ‘reduce the risk’ actually looks like.

What should I do? Do I let this all go and try to be happy with the compromise we’ve taken or is this a sign of bigger problems to come?

OP posts:
B0g · 05/04/2023 17:39

He’s not the boyfriend for you if you want anything other than a live in sex partner. He’s openly told you that he has made his position clear. Believe him. You’re early thirties, if you hang about for a few years hoping the boyfriend will want to get you pregnant and then moves the goalposts again, you’ll be running out of time then to find a decent man who wants a kid, and date.

Buy your own flat, take ownership of your future. If you want a kid, you need to start planning how that will work, not wasting your time analysing a disinterested boyfriend. Focus on your goals and disregard this man.

spinandspaghetti · 05/04/2023 17:43

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ozoruk1 · 05/04/2023 17:43

I strongly suggest you make your “position clear” when it comes to marriage and kids and put a timeline on it otherwise you will waste your fertile years and strongly regret it.

tennesseewhiskey1 · 05/04/2023 17:44

I echo everyone else here - he’s not that into you and is probably hedging his bets and keeping his options open. It does sound like you’ve bought into him tho and not willing to do much about it - but don’t be too surprised if ‘some years’ down the line - he’s not ready to have kids with you yet…you know - like the job committal sharing a home together. Good luck tho Op. I hope it works out for you.

TequilaNights · 05/04/2023 17:45

Could it be possible that there is undeclared debt? Financial difficulties?

Wavescrashingonthebeach · 05/04/2023 17:46

Oh dear. He's definitely just keeping you for now until he meets who he sees as The One. Sorry. Tell him you want a ring on your finger within 3 months and you buy the property together or you split up. I honestly don't think this relationship has legs. Don't waste your Time.

Quantumleaper · 05/04/2023 17:47

Aw op this is horrible for you. My two friends were like this and they split up and their partners quickly ended up married to women their families approved of.
I seriously wouldn’t waste time with him.
He doesn’t want a form of commitment to you now or ever. There are so many women on these forums strung a long and then out of time to have kids. Please don’t be one of them!

MadeofCheeese · 05/04/2023 17:48

I'm only saying this because you have said you would like children but my partner and I are infertile.
We knew this from young adults and how to fix with treatment.
It's taken 7 years and 50k.
If there is anything up with either of your fertility waiting a few years when you are in a position to crack on is risky.
Also we have no money after IVF and my LO has done fine with supermarket clothing and second hand things.
I hope he comes round.

B0g · 05/04/2023 17:48

It doesn’t matter if he’s debt laden, he’s openly told OP he will not be buying a property and has kicked the can of having a kid years down the line. Will likely then waste all of OPs fertile years, as we see time and time again on threads like this. OP should focus on herself. Not analysing the man, hoping he’ll change. He’s been open.

RoseThornside · 05/04/2023 17:48

Ah - his mum is the issue I think. Not sure how you tackle that, except to have a very frank chat with him.

Lavenderflower · 05/04/2023 17:49

It appears that he possibly doesn't see a future with you or he hiding some kind of debt issues. I would continue buying your flat but don't allow him to to rent from your you. If wants to continue to rent, then let him do that else where.

Untitledsquatboulder · 05/04/2023 17:50

My dh's best friend is like this - lovely guy but a commitmentphobe. He's 54, still renting, and each lovely girlfriend eventually leaves him when they realise he's never going to change.

Set yourself free OP.

Riri24 · 05/04/2023 17:51

It sounds like he is either afraid of the commitment or dosent want to commit to you. I wouldn't let him shut you down when you want to dicuss the issue with him. It's not about you trying to persuade him or change his mind it's about you wanting to understand what he is thinking.
I would want a very firm timeline in terms of ttc. I started early 30s but it took me much longer than I had anticipated and it really did test a very solid relationship! Of course this may not be you but you never know how easily it will happen until you start trying.

MadMadMadamMim · 05/04/2023 17:51

You are 5 years in, and he's not committed to you. He won't marry you, he won't buy a house with you and he won't have children with you - not now, not in the future.

You are not the one for him. Please find someone else to pay you rent and end the relationship. You are wasting your fertile years on someone who will dump you when they find the right person for them.

mindutopia · 05/04/2023 17:52

I would agree about not being super committed in the longer term and yes I’d buy on your own if you can. BIL and his partner were together 10 years when they decided to buy. It was during a rough patch (she had just admitted to cheating on him) and I think they both hoped it would add a new layer of security. It didn’t.

They’ve just finally sold the house after a painful and protracted period of fighting over whether or not to sell after a breakup nearly 4 years ago. Partner wanted to stay in the house (they have no dc) but only if she and new partner could buy BIL out at about £100k below market rate. It nearly went as far as a court ordered sale and was very stressful. Personally, I wouldn’t buy with anyone who wasn’t clearly committed for the long term.

Dh and I only managed to buy in early 40’s after 14 years together. I would have bought sooner if we could have, but definitely not before marriage or before we were totally sure about the future.

LexMitior · 05/04/2023 17:52

@spinandspaghetti - seriously that family background is poison to a stable marriage and you would be better off thinking about someone with a family that matches your values. That does not sound like this man

Suzi888 · 05/04/2023 17:52

As partners, do you have a buy to let mortgage - Im confused how this minimises YOUR risk.

I hope you’ve protected yourself.

Are there debts? When does he want children? None of it makes any sense…. I would also bin him off. Friend of mine bought a house, met a partner and he proposed, then cheated and attempted to obtain half her house. He left her in debt as took out loans (I’m going back decades now, she is with someone else). Unfortunately now too old to have children.

Just be careful, I don’t think he’s being honest. He may like you, love you even but he is making it clear there’s no compromise, no discussion, it’s his way and that’s it. He wants all his own way and I don’t think he will ever get married or have children. Christ if he won’t buy a house, I can’t see him commiting to children.

Backstreets · 05/04/2023 17:53

After five years he really should want to buy with you, yeah. Sucks.

Georgyporky · 05/04/2023 17:53

He hasn't got the guts to tell you that he's not committed, I think he's waiting for you to tell him to go.

RudsyFarmer · 05/04/2023 17:54

You’ll normally find the answer to this in the family dynamic and you’ve really just explained an awful lot of it. Is he super close to his mother or not so much?

Wildehorses · 05/04/2023 17:56

So we've talked about kids and he said he would like to start a family in a few years time.

You will be back here posting again, aged 35, about how he strung you along for years, now your fertility is waning and time is running out for you to dump him and start all over again with a new man. Don't be that woman. Get out now.

2bazookas · 05/04/2023 17:57

One can see why he would prefer not to own property together with your parents financial involvement; and they aren't even his PILs. I suspect he is not totally committed to you for life and does not want to be tied by joint finances, or any feeling of gratitude or obligation to your parents.

I'm surprised he'll be renting from you. In your shoes, since he doesn't commit, I'd title him "lodger" rather than tenant , so he has no rights and should you fall out, he can be out the door by next month, no legal disputes. He wants no strings independence; make sure you keep yours.

Darkstar4855 · 05/04/2023 17:57

Oh that old chestnut “he wants marriage/kids in a few years”. Seen this on here so many times before. A few years go by, then a few more. He won’t commit to marriage and/or kids, says you’re pressuring him. You get to your late thirties and finally cut your losses and leave. Meanwhile he moves on and is married and expecting a child with someone else within six months.

Honestly OP don’t waste your time on him. He’s either hiding some secret marriage or massive debt or he’s just not that into you, sorry.

TeaForMeandThee · 05/04/2023 17:57

Reading your last post I think he knows his family will never accept you, he is happy with you for now but knows he will eventually need to end it to marry the girl his family will accept. You will be strung along until he decides it's time to get married, unfortunately that won't be to you. Don't waste your fertile years on him. If I was 5 years into a relationship and aged 30 I'd be wanting some sort of commitment, whether a proposal and wedding planning or house buying. We don't have forever as women to have children, don't be deluded into thinking if you wait another x years he'll suddenly change his mind and commit, if he doesn't want to commit now, he won't ever commit.

Bin him off and buy your flat, you'll find someone who actually wants the same things, just don't waste time on this relationship.

ConstanceOcean · 05/04/2023 17:58

I voted YABU as I think this is a win-win situation for you.

Its not a relationship that I think you should be putting all of your eggs into one basket right now and I think you’d be putting yourself at risk by buying with him.

I agree with him in that this is a massive commitment and I too would be concerned doing this with a partner.
He is also torn between his mum, his religion and you the woman he loves.

The major concern for me is him saying he’ll have kids in a few years. Neither of you are getting any younger and if he’s flaky about buying a house and having kids then he’s got doubts about the relationship.

But your own home with the intention that he pays you rent.
Then reevaluate things in a few months time.

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