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Partner 5 years won't buy a house with me but says I should buy on my own...

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spinandspaghetti · 05/04/2023 16:06

This is the first time I've posted but this is a question that is really starting to affect me and I'd love some perspective on whether I'm being overly sensitive/unreasonable or if something really is up here...

Sorry in advance for the long post!

We are in a very fortunate position in that we are now in a financial position to buy a flat. My parents can loan us some money, I have savings for a deposit and we both work full time so we can get the mortgage we need for a half decent place. I am keen to buy somewhere together for both financial and emotional reasons. We are both in our early 30s and I am fed up after 10 years of expensive and insecure renting. Our mortgage repayments would be less than our current rent and of course we’d be contributing towards something tangible. I would also love to choose our own place together, decorate and build a home as partners - somewhere we could start a family. I don’t feel particularly settled in London whereas he grew up here and I think having a place of our own would really help me to feel more secure and grounded.

He on the other hand doesn’t want to buy a place. He’s happy renting and keeping our finances separate. He says he would prefer to save up some more and get a better place a few years down the line. He thinks buying is risky and likes the flexibility of renting. These reasons don’t really make sense to me - we aren't after flexibility, we’re not looking to move around as we both have career commitments here that will last minimum 3 years and even if house prices drop, we'll have saved by not renting? I’m also not getting any younger and would like to start a family in the not too distant future. His response to this is always just, “I’ve made my position clear” which is really frustrating...

I wonder whether the real reason is he’s worried about long-term commitment with me or doesn’t like the idea of taking my parent’s money. He assures me these aren’t the reasons and has encouraged me to buy on my own because he can see how much I’m beginning to resent renting. We have now found ourselves in a weird position where I am buying a place (with a smaller budget) on my own and he will be renting from me. I understand how we’ve got here because it seems to be a compromise - he’s still renting, I’m still buying - but I just feel really confused, alone and sad about the whole thing. He would rather rent from me and have no stake in the flat than buy as partners? He also says he wants to get married but wants to make sure we’ve done everything we can to “reduce the risk” first as he’s concerned with the statistics around divorce being among the most stressful life events. He never brings that conversation up though and I’ve stopped asking what ‘reduce the risk’ actually looks like.

What should I do? Do I let this all go and try to be happy with the compromise we’ve taken or is this a sign of bigger problems to come?

OP posts:
Newyearnewmeow · 05/04/2023 16:37

He’s wasting your time. He’s not ready(if ever) to commit and want to leave the door open in case he wants out. Not nice!

Wnikat · 05/04/2023 16:38

He’ll string you along until you’re 39 then dump you, then six months later you’ll find out he’s having a baby with someone else

NeedToChangeName · 05/04/2023 16:39

He's being honest with you, and you're choosing not to listen. Sorry

OnMyWayToSenility · 05/04/2023 16:41

Go your own way and do what you want to.... it will fizzle out when he sees you're not going to be his "for now girlfriend"

SupplyIsLimited · 05/04/2023 16:41

I'm afraid I agree with those who say this is a bad sign. He needs to make up his mind. Either he's fully committed to you (marriage, buying a home, ttc) or he's not.

There's no way to see into the future, regarding divorce. If you've been together for five years and are living together, that's about as much 'security' as you can get, when predicting whether a marriage will last. If he's still unwilling to take the leap, I'd question his commitment.

LexMitior · 05/04/2023 16:42

Don't be a fool. He's been honest with you in a way, and perhaps to end it or get you to.

spinandspaghetti · 05/04/2023 16:44

So we've talked about kids and he said he would like to start a family in a few years time. The "position clear" is just about the house - sorry for not making that clear!

I'm slightly suspicious that there's something going on with him financially because he has set all these rules for himself about saving £x before he's able to do y. E.g. he wants an untouchable £40k in the bank before having kids. Just another excuse not to commit??

He's very risk adverse in general - he sees things like marriage as a legal contract rather than something romantic which I do understand because I'm not desperate to have a big wedding or anything like that but after 5 years I am ready for some sign of long-term commitment.

We've lived together for 4 years very happily and he is really loving and supportive in lots of ways. I suppose I'm reluctant to just "bin him off" when there are so many great things about our relationship. This problem has only really emerged since we started talking about buying but it's quite reassuring to hear from you all that I'm right and not over-reacting to have alarm bells ringing at the house situation...(which is how he has made me feel in the past)

OP posts:
FredandAmy · 05/04/2023 16:46

If he doesn’t want to buy with you after 5 years, I don’t think he ever will.

Camparispritzandcrisps · 05/04/2023 16:47

This was EXACTLY my situation about 6 years ago. If my hideous experience is anything to go by, save yourself the heartache and expense of being future faked by this man - he's not going to commit now, never will and will absolutely fuck you about as long as he can get away with it. NOT WORTH IT - you deserve so much better than that.

After it ended with my arsehole ex, I met and married an amazing man, and I love the happy home we now own together. Why tie yourself to this prick when you could find someone who appreciates you and is fully invested in your joint future?

LexMitior · 05/04/2023 16:48

These are all excuses and bad signs.

You are not going to change this man's mind. 40k needed first before kids, marriage is just a contract, doesn't want to buy?

No, he's stringing you along.

BringItOnxxx · 05/04/2023 16:49

A few years time... Typical delaying tactics... He is a commitmentphobe and will run down your biological clock. I'm so sorry but I hope you can find someone who wants kids.

Wavescrashingonthebeach · 05/04/2023 16:50

End the relationship he's wasting your time. Buy a house yourself and enjoy it.

CantGetDecentNickname · 05/04/2023 16:51

2G00d2Goooo · 05/04/2023 16:32

I agree he is telling you loud & clear

He doesn't want to buy property with you

He doesn't want children or a future with you

Buy on your own

Get another lodger

Sadly, I think the same as the post above. He has no reason not to take the normal step of buying with you for security and a future family other than he doesn't want to do those things with you. Saying "a few years down the line" is stringing you along or future faking. You don't have a few years to waste on him, so please don't.

You described it as a "weird position" to be in and it is! It is not what the majority of people do which is why it feels wrong to you. Please listen to your instincts.

Please crack on with your purchase of a home for yourself. Don't involve him in your search as the place is for you and should be where you want with everything you want and then decorated the way you want. Treat the situation as if you are single. If there is room for a lodger and you want one, do get one, but not him. Leave him behind. Tell him that you are making your position clear.

Make sure everything you do rent wise is legal and correct. If you do meet someone in the future and wish to marry them make sure the assets you bring to the relationship, such as property, are legally protected so a claim cannot be made against them in the event of a split some years down the line.

Talia99 · 05/04/2023 16:51

I actually agree with him that buying with an unmarried partner is a bad idea but the obvious answer is to get married. If his ‘obvious answer’ is to require you to make the financial commitment while he acts as your lodger, I think that says everything you need to know.

If you want a family, you are currently early 30s. If the two of you broke up today, you are looking at a minimum of 2 to 3 years to find another man to have children with. Your biological clock is ticking. I think it’s time to make some hard choices.

Twinsforthewin · 05/04/2023 16:52

Sorry OP, he's wasting your time. Leave now. Of course it's fun when you're not talking about the future, I had an ex like this, it was all lovely holidays and fab restaurants until I talked about commitment then BOOM whingeville...

I gave him an ultimatum, we split up, and a few years later (well into my 30s) met a wonderful man who I married and have a lovely house and children with. Don't waste another moment with this guy. It will be tough but get out now!!

DangerNoodles · 05/04/2023 16:55

Wnikat · 05/04/2023 16:38

He’ll string you along until you’re 39 then dump you, then six months later you’ll find out he’s having a baby with someone else

This!

A few years will turn into another few years and another, until it is too late for you but not too late for him.

5 years is enough time to decide if you want to commit to somebody.

sunshinesupermum · 05/04/2023 16:55

Buy on your own if you can afford to and bin him. He is not committed to a future with you. Sorry.

wordler · 05/04/2023 16:55

You need to set your own deadline and boundaries first before you do anything else.

If you definitely want to have kids you are on a timeline, which may have to include the time it takes to find a new partner to do that with.

So what's the oldest you want to be pregnant? Work backwards in time factoring in 1 or 2 kids plus time trying etc (plus worst case scenario the time to find and commit to a new partner) - and there's your deadline.

Then it's up to you to decide how to proceed. You can tell him your deadline, or you can keep it to yourself and then move on and let him go if he hasn't committed himself to you properly by then.

If you tell him in advance you have to be prepared for the relationship to end immediately, though.

And if you decide to keep your deadline to yourself, you need to be strong enough to stick with it and not keep sliding it and hoping things will change.

AddictedToPaintTesters · 05/04/2023 16:55

He has told you clearly that he doesn't want to take the next step with you. He wants to remain flexible and without any comittment to you. But it's great that you're in a position to buy your own place and make it how you want it. Don't wait to do that until you're in a new relationship.

Wellillsayitifnooneelsewill · 05/04/2023 16:57

Agree with the others. He’s avoiding commitment.

if you DO buy your own place and he ends up living with you and contributing in ANY way you MUST see a solicitor and get it in writing from him that he will seek no Financial compensation from you in the event of a split for his contributions to your flat

Beamur · 05/04/2023 16:57

I wonder whether the real reason is he’s worried about long-term commitment with me
I think you've hit the nail here. Kids 'in a few years ' with lots of barriers to cross first.
He's future faking you too. I suspect he's perfectly happy with how things are between you but would be entirely sceptical about him ever committing further..

Hilarieh · 05/04/2023 16:58

I went through the same thing in my early 30s. After 5 years OH always had reasons for not buying together. Eventually he left me and dove straight to into a serious relationship. I was devastated but ultimately he did me a favour. I met my DH and he couldn’t wait to drag me up the aisle. If your OH wanted to settle down, he would. Cut your losses.

Hilarieh · 05/04/2023 16:59

THIS!!!

MoltenLasagne · 05/04/2023 17:03

Buy a flat on your own and don't let him move in as a lodger. He doesn't get to have a halfway house of stringing you along whilst having the plausible deniability of not technically committing. You either move forward together or things have to change, keeping you in limbo is just cruel.

Inaea · 05/04/2023 17:03

I’m sorry OP. If he wanted to start a family with you and buy a home with you, he would do so. His excuses sound like rationalisations. He may love you but just not want the same things you do, or he may just be in total denial about the biological reality of being in your thirties, I don’t know.

But staying with you for a decade and then dropping the bombshell in your early thirties that he still isn’t ready for family / home ownership is very low behaviour. Shitty, in fact.

Normally I think ultimatums are a terrible idea but it is very tempting in this situation. Hm. Forget about the flat, even forget about the wedding, you need to work out right now if you are serious about becoming a mother and talk to him about that and agree a timescale with him. I speak as a woman who was fertile at 30 and not at 35.