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AIBU to be horrified that this man equal women's rights even though he says "he's comfortable with his genetils" Would you be happy to share a dressing room with him?

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Imarealwoman · 03/04/2023 20:19

https://4w.pub/fetish-footballer-policy/

Trans Fetish Enthusiast Reportedly Advising Irish Policy on Men in Women’s Sport

An interview in the Guardian claims 'Giulia' Valentino has been consulted as part of a policy review into inclusion of males in Irish women's football

https://4w.pub/fetish-footballer-policy

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montysma1 · 04/04/2023 09:18

Time for the ladies to quit the league.
The governing body will soon act when it has no matches and no players.
Women need to stop going along with this. I am not victim blaming. But if we let them do this, then they will do this . Male entitlement.

FOJN · 04/04/2023 09:23

StarmanBobby · 04/04/2023 08:41

Do I think transwomen should play competitively in women's sports? No, actually.

Do I think the op is scaremongering with this whole 'trans fetish' advising Irish sports bodies - yes.

Or perhaps you missed the Scottish Government also failing to do their due diligence when they linked to WPATH recommendations for Enuch gender to be legally recognized. WPATH is the World Professional Association for Transgender Health and seems to be made up of activists who also possess professional qualifications.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10922531/Eunuch-recognised-gender-according-Scottish-NHS-removed-document.html

WPATH's own resources link to a forum called the Eunuch Files where users can post erotic fiction about castration, including the castration of children.

https://reduxx.info/top-trans-medical-association-collaborated-with-castration-child-abuse-fetishists/

But yeah, scaremongering!

NHS Scotland apologises after website said 'eunuch should be a gender'

Health chiefs say an investigation will be launched into how the documents were uploaded on to The National Gender Identity Clinical Network for Scotland (NGICNS).

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10922531/Eunuch-recognised-gender-according-Scottish-NHS-removed-document.html

StarmanBobby · 04/04/2023 09:34

@FOJN Sorry, but what's the Scottish government got to do with OP posting fake news stories from a, frankly crackers website, about a 'trans fetish enthusiast' influencing Irish sporting bodies? Nothing.

I'm not going to get outraged by lies.

Lavenderlemongrass · 04/04/2023 09:34

@StarmanBobby
From the Guardian, Sept 22 (my emphasis)-
"Valentino is a newcomer to Gaelic sports and by her own account not especially skilled, yet she may leave a lasting mark if the GAA and LGFA allow trans players to compete – she has been consulted by the policy review. “

Lavenderlemongrass · 04/04/2023 09:36

And the LGFA (Ladies Gaelic Football Association) has recently decided to allow trans women to compete...

HuggingtheHRT · 04/04/2023 09:44

Hmm.....determined to be externally validated as a 'woman' whilst proudly maintaining their cock and balls. Funny how often that happens with TW, isn't it?

Imarealwoman · 04/04/2023 09:49

montysma1 · 04/04/2023 09:18

Time for the ladies to quit the league.
The governing body will soon act when it has no matches and no players.
Women need to stop going along with this. I am not victim blaming. But if we let them do this, then they will do this . Male entitlement.

@montysma1 Yep a major Boycott is needed of the LGFA. This is absolutely beyond the pale.

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Imarealwoman · 04/04/2023 09:51

Lavenderlemongrass · 04/04/2023 09:34

@StarmanBobby
From the Guardian, Sept 22 (my emphasis)-
"Valentino is a newcomer to Gaelic sports and by her own account not especially skilled, yet she may leave a lasting mark if the GAA and LGFA allow trans players to compete – she has been consulted by the policy review. “

@Lavenderlemongrass a lasting mark but doing irreversible damage to some poor woman. I want to know how the insurance companies are actually insuring this?

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Imarealwoman · 04/04/2023 09:55

@StarmanBobby again I will provide you will the link from the national examiner newspaper outlining how Genetils Giulia has been granted permission to play.
A full boycott needed & UK parents do not let Gender Recognition happen on your watch.
The backlash & resistance is happening in Ireland now finally

https://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/ourview/arid-41107879.html

Irish Examiner view: First of the few

The GAA approves its first trans applicant to play with the Ladies Gaelic Football Association

https://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/ourview/arid-41107879.html

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FOJN · 04/04/2023 09:59

StarmanBobby · 04/04/2023 09:34

@FOJN Sorry, but what's the Scottish government got to do with OP posting fake news stories from a, frankly crackers website, about a 'trans fetish enthusiast' influencing Irish sporting bodies? Nothing.

I'm not going to get outraged by lies.

You think this is a lie so I'm pointing out that more significant and powerful organisations than the GAA have taken advice, on trans issues, from equally questionable sources. It's such a regular occurrence that I have no trouble believing this. There are links to most of the sources in the article for you to check for yourself, you care enough to post here so maybe you should check them out.

Adult males should not be competing in women's teams and expect to use female changing facilities.

Why are you not concerned about safeguarding and fairness in sport?

Imarealwoman · 04/04/2023 10:17

@StarmanBobby is obviously a man so taking the TRA male stance that their "rights" to be recognised as women (with penises) is more important than, the millions of little girls, teenage girls & women who feel utterly violated & vulnerable by being forced to shares their womens only areas with men.

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SinnerBoy · 04/04/2023 10:49

Well, British Rugby came somewhat to their senses, followed by Athletics and Swimming. Rugby was after a period of medical and scientific consultation, after which, they concluded that men playing women is A Very Bad Idea.

pepperquorn · 04/04/2023 11:53

ATerrorofLeftovers · 03/04/2023 23:27

I'm intrigued. How would you ensure safety and fairness?

How would you ensure a rugby tackle between a biological male and biological female wouldn't result in serious injury like paralysis or traumatic brain injury for the female? How would you mitigate against the superior size, weight and strength of the male?

How would you ensure a level playing field for fairness where male bodies confer advantage - eg the longer and strong limbs of a male swimmer? The wider shoulders, etc.

How would you make allowances in shared changing rooms for women who feel unsafe in a vulnerable state of undress in the presence of a male? Or are prevented by their religion from being undresses in mixed company? Who leaves the changing room - the Muslim woman or the woman who's traumatised by being raped, or the trans woman? And why?

Perhaps more importantly, why do you think it's preferable to divide sport by gender, rather than sex?

@Flounder2022

Did I miss your reply to @ATerrorofLeftovers above?
I am really trying to understand the view point on allowing Trans women in women's sport. There's is so much information out there about how detrimental this is for women and girls. I would be very keen to read your response to the questions above.

Imarealwoman · 04/04/2023 12:57

@pepperquorn i asked @Flounder2022 his/her opinion on trans sports, toilets etc as in they need their own rights & spaces. Flounder replied it wouldn't work as it would be segregation 😁
Men & women have already been segregated in spaces for donkeys years coexisting happily... Until men like Genetils Giulia decides to invade women's spaces with their penises.

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QueenBeaver · 04/04/2023 13:08

sorrynotathome · 03/04/2023 20:41

What the hell are genetils?

Isn’t is obvious based on the article FFS??!!

Imarealwoman · 04/04/2023 13:34

@QueenBeaver some posters on here need everything explained to them... As I say to my dc "try sounding it out first"

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Imarealwoman · 04/04/2023 13:40

Trans groups really furious that women are fighting back. How dare we email our TDs. We voted for them. They need to work for us.

AIBU to be horrified that this man equal women's rights even though he says "he's comfortable with his genetils" Would you be happy to share a dressing room with him?
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Lavenderlemongrass · 04/04/2023 20:35

QueenBeaver · 04/04/2023 13:08

Isn’t is obvious based on the article FFS??!!

Seriously though OP. It's GENITALS. You keep on and on mentioning the word on your (now many) threads and keep on spelling it wrongly (though it's already been corrected by a pp and acknowledged by you). I know it's very rude to point out the spelling mistake but I just can't take it any longer!!!😅

Imarealwoman · 04/04/2023 21:37

@Lavenderlemongrass it's in my autotype🤣 sorry!

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Lavenderlemongrass · 04/04/2023 21:43

Right, okay then😁

Imarealwoman · 04/04/2023 22:16

Genitals, Genitals, Genetils... Even gave it a capital G to keep the TRAs happy.

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ZeldaFighter · 06/04/2023 20:23

I used to read about Trump supporters banning people from the bathroom of their choice and vow I would never be that mean. I would always be kind and support my LGBTQ sisters and brothers.

But trans women are trans women. They've probably grown up as men. Dealing with their own issues, of course, but not dealing with the menstruation, the body image, the sexualisation, the pressure, the double-standards, the unwanted attention, the SH*T that girls and women have been dealing with all their lives.

Trans women taking prizes, scholarships, medals, awards, spaces meant for women gives me rage. Same shit, different day. Men taking everything and leaving women nothing.

And that's a detour so now back to bathrooms...except it isn't bathrooms, is it???

It's things that should be for women but are being opened up to men at their whim:

  • Women's prisons
  • Women's secure/locked mental health hospital wards
  • Women's hospital wards
  • Women's domestic violence refuges
  • Women's rape crisis support groups
  • Women's sports
  • Women's sports changing rooms
  • Women's changing rooms in shops

And let's not forget -

  • Lesbian groups
  • Lesbian dating apps

One trans woman (man) means all of them. Men are either allowed in or not. I say, sorry, not.

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