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AIBU to be horrified that this man equal women's rights even though he says "he's comfortable with his genetils" Would you be happy to share a dressing room with him?

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Imarealwoman · 03/04/2023 20:19

https://4w.pub/fetish-footballer-policy/

Trans Fetish Enthusiast Reportedly Advising Irish Policy on Men in Women’s Sport

An interview in the Guardian claims 'Giulia' Valentino has been consulted as part of a policy review into inclusion of males in Irish women's football

https://4w.pub/fetish-footballer-policy

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1Week · 03/04/2023 21:19

shivawn · 03/04/2023 20:54

Well I'm trying to imagine what I would do if this man joined my team... I would hate to let him drive me off the team but I also couldn't bear any kind of physical contact with him whatsoever so yeah I'd probably just quit.

That's the problem isn't it Shivawn.
Self exclusion.

And he's openly doing it for validation.

Not like my family, we've been involved in multiple levels for generations. My father played county and my husband senior club, my daughters are under 14 and below.
I don't play myself, merely washing the gear and such like. (😒) But I loved it and felt such loyalty to it.

Such a betrayal, a giant 2 fingers, suck it up bitches vibe.

Not even a consultation with players and clubs. No impact assessment. A consultation aimed at LGBTQ only.

I'm sickened.

RosesInWater · 03/04/2023 21:21

Yes the LGB community did fight hard, but now they are associated with TQ etc. which is doing them no favours whatsoever and they realise this. Difficult to extricate from, but they might have to.

LGB is sexuality, TQ and the rest of the alphabet soup is gender and fetishistic. One is not changing gender or sex, the other is or wants to.

So women will have lots of allies within the gay community, and have already.

Flounder2022 · 03/04/2023 21:23

Imarealwoman · 03/04/2023 21:17

The lgb community have fought so hard for their rights.

I would completely support Trans sports leagues, changing areas, toilets etc.. I would support M, F or T.

However I am not willing to compromise on my personal spaces as a woman or my little daughters single sex space.

The only compromise I will lobby for is for the Trans community to get their own third spaces, sports & prisons. I would happily support then we can all coexist.

I am uncomfortable with Giulia's genetils in women's spaces as both a woman & a mother.

They are an LGBTQ+ team so as a I assume you won't be joining, don't worry, they won't be anywhere near your dressing room

Lavenderlemongrass · 03/04/2023 21:25

And he's openly doing it for validation.

How do you know @1Week ? Did he actually say he's doing this to be validated as a woman?

Imarealwoman · 03/04/2023 21:29

@Flounder2022 but are all the women on the team happy? One look at the comments under Roderic O Gorman's now infamous tweet suggest the Lgb community are absolutely not happy with being pushed together with tq.

I'll link the tweet again just for you flounder & so the mumsnetters on this thread can read the comments to see what Ireland really think about Gender Indentification.
UK you have time to stop it.

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nothingcomestonothing · 03/04/2023 21:30

Women don't matter, even in women's sports. This is just misogyny in a new dress outfit - who cares about women's safety, dignity or wishes, as long a male gets what he wants?

Imarealwoman · 03/04/2023 21:31

https://twitter.com/rodericogorman/status/1641832872771289090?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

@Flounder2022 just for you. Please read the comments under the Minister for Children's tweet. As a gay man he should lgb do not want the tq letters. The comments will show why you do not want Gender Indentification in England.

https://twitter.com/rodericogorman/status/1641832872771289090?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

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1Week · 03/04/2023 21:34

Lavenderlemongrass · 03/04/2023 21:25

And he's openly doing it for validation.

How do you know @1Week ? Did he actually say he's doing this to be validated as a woman?

Yes, @Lavenderlemongrass , this particular player went viral I think last August and in one of the fawning pieces that's what he said.
I can't find the piece now, so am not not demanding you take my word for it! Maybe someone else has the quote to hand.

1Week · 03/04/2023 21:36

Sorry - to add, initially went for Womens Rugby, but they have stood firm on women's safety and fairness, so he went for Ladies Football instead.

Flounder2022 · 03/04/2023 21:36

Imarealwoman · 03/04/2023 21:29

@Flounder2022 but are all the women on the team happy? One look at the comments under Roderic O Gorman's now infamous tweet suggest the Lgb community are absolutely not happy with being pushed together with tq.

I'll link the tweet again just for you flounder & so the mumsnetters on this thread can read the comments to see what Ireland really think about Gender Indentification.
UK you have time to stop it.

You're ok thank you, I am aware of the tweet.

I can only assume that as they joined a club who's expressed purpose is inclusivity for the LGBTQ community then yes they are ok with it. You may chose to assume otherwise.

1Week · 03/04/2023 21:37

Flounder2022 · 03/04/2023 21:36

You're ok thank you, I am aware of the tweet.

I can only assume that as they joined a club who's expressed purpose is inclusivity for the LGBTQ community then yes they are ok with it. You may chose to assume otherwise.

Who do you think the LGBTQ inclusive clubs play against???

RosesInWater · 03/04/2023 21:39

1Week · 03/04/2023 21:37

Who do you think the LGBTQ inclusive clubs play against???

Beat me to it by a second!

Imarealwoman · 03/04/2023 21:41

Exactly @1week they play in the Ladies Gaa league against women!!!! It's not an lgbqt league it's a WOMENs league!! @flounder you need to educate yourself!

@Flounder2022 I'm happy to reshare. Hopefully more people can now read the comments! Minister Roderic O Gorman got his balls handed to him on a plate for tweeting not lgb without the t..
Ireland told him differently..

https://twitter.com/rodericogorman/status/1641832872771289090?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

https://twitter.com/rodericogorman/status/1641832872771289090?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

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Imarealwoman · 03/04/2023 21:43

@Flounder2022 one of the comments under the tweet. Never a truer word spoken.

AIBU to be horrified that this man equal women's rights even though he says "he's comfortable with his genetils" Would you be happy to share a dressing room with him?
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Flounder2022 · 03/04/2023 21:43

Imarealwoman · 03/04/2023 21:41

Exactly @1week they play in the Ladies Gaa league against women!!!! It's not an lgbqt league it's a WOMENs league!! @flounder you need to educate yourself!

@Flounder2022 I'm happy to reshare. Hopefully more people can now read the comments! Minister Roderic O Gorman got his balls handed to him on a plate for tweeting not lgb without the t..
Ireland told him differently..

https://twitter.com/rodericogorman/status/1641832872771289090?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Trust me I don't come to this board to be educated.

GlitchStitch · 03/04/2023 21:43

This person's views on women's sport, presumably said with a straight face-

"In a patriarchal society, women’s competitions are simply seen as less important than men’s (i.e. during the Olympics, the men’s finals are the main events and are scheduled after the women’s ones of the same competition). While we have mostly men pulling the strings, “mansplaining” what is best for women and deciding “how to protect women’s bodies and women’s sport” things will be hard to change"

Imarealwoman · 03/04/2023 21:44

@Flounder2022@Flounder2022 well maybe you should as you actually haven't a clue!

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ATerrorofLeftovers · 03/04/2023 21:52

Flounder2022 · 03/04/2023 21:43

Trust me I don't come to this board to be educated.

Indomitable ignorance.

1Week · 03/04/2023 21:56

Flounder2022 · 03/04/2023 21:43

Trust me I don't come to this board to be educated.

Only about 2 weeks ago I got chatting to a nice girl at a family occasion.
She literally stuck her fingers her ears and went LaLaLa when this subject came up!! 😄

We were all kinda taken aback, even the more tra-ish side of the family.

MobilityCat · 03/04/2023 21:59

Imarealwoman · 03/04/2023 21:31

https://twitter.com/rodericogorman/status/1641832872771289090?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

@Flounder2022 just for you. Please read the comments under the Minister for Children's tweet. As a gay man he should lgb do not want the tq letters. The comments will show why you do not want Gender Indentification in England.

Reading the tweets in your link, the T's already have a bad reputation.

Flounder2022 · 03/04/2023 22:00

@ATerrorofLeftovers this place is an echo chamber like none other I have ever seen. There is no balance or discussion on here. Just a bunch of folk confirming to each everything they already believe to be the only truth.

If you think people linking to the likes of Gript media is going to educate anyone on anything then you are as ignorant as they come.

The insults and ridicule and attempts to run off anyone who doesn't agree with you is boring and I struggle to have any respect for the opinions of people who refuse to engage in reasonable conversation.

I will await the replies telling me to 'run along now'

Imarealwoman · 03/04/2023 22:00

@1Week sure @Flounder2022 came on to say "Giulia's" story was "reportedly". I linked all the evidence that it's real & happened...proving @Flounder2022 hasn't a notion what's going on! Keep coming on mumsnet Flounder we won't be long telling you the real facts & giving you a biology lesson.

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Happylittlechicken · 03/04/2023 22:01

Flounder2022 · 03/04/2023 21:43

Trust me I don't come to this board to be educated.

Do you go anywhere to be educated @Flounder2022 ?

Shuggie1234 · 03/04/2023 22:04

You are unreasonable for not being able to spell genitals 🍆😆

Imarealwoman · 03/04/2023 22:04

@Flounder2022 there's no debate. There's no discussion. Women will not compromise their spaces for men.

@Flounder2022 maybe you can educate me as to why the trans are not fighting for trans sports teams, trans prisons changing rooms etc??? Why do they not want transgender recognised as it's own third sex?

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