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Drug users don’t give any thought to who’s behind their next spliff

199 replies

StLevanBlackcaps · 03/04/2023 16:43

I’m sick of how common smoking weed has become - you literally smell it on every street and it’s seen as no big deal to participate despite it being illegal - lots of people seem to think it’s no different to having a glass of wine and the police couldn’t give a damn.

Yet behind the scenes you’ve got scum like Thomas Cashman and the gangs who run county lines praying on vulnerable kids and funding the sort of lifestyles that many people seem to aspire to - you only have to look at Cashman’s gf with her Botox and Range Rover and all the other proceeds of his disgusting ‘career’ choice.

AIBU to think drugs are drugs and if you choose to use them you’re as bad as the arseholes who supply them?

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Fairyliz · 03/04/2023 16:47

Well the drugs problem could be solved if people would stop using them. However y it is easier for people to bleat on about how the government should do something rather than change their behaviour.

BlusteryLake · 03/04/2023 16:49

People always but their blinkers on when it comes to changing their behaviour and stopping doing something they like. All sorts of pathetic justification.

AllOfThemWitches · 03/04/2023 16:49

The smell of cigarette smoke is equally revolting tbh. People will never stop using drugs.

CremeEggThief · 03/04/2023 16:59

YABU.

If ALL drugs were legalised and properly taxed and regulated, we wouldn't be in the situation we are in now, with most of the money and power in the hands of criminals.

The American government sharp realised it had made a MASSIVE mistake prohibiting alcohol. What a shame that all of the governments refused to admit or realise this in relation to illegal drugs.

OneTC · 03/04/2023 17:02

Fairyliz · 03/04/2023 16:47

Well the drugs problem could be solved if people would stop using them. However y it is easier for people to bleat on about how the government should do something rather than change their behaviour.

Wouldn't it be better to take the decision out of the hands of the feckless self harming wastrels then?

Beneficialchampion2 · 03/04/2023 17:03

CremeEggThief · 03/04/2023 16:59

YABU.

If ALL drugs were legalised and properly taxed and regulated, we wouldn't be in the situation we are in now, with most of the money and power in the hands of criminals.

The American government sharp realised it had made a MASSIVE mistake prohibiting alcohol. What a shame that all of the governments refused to admit or realise this in relation to illegal drugs.

Nail on the head.

Just close the thread and end it here.

Marijuana is statistically less dangerous than both tobacco and alcohol, and less addictive.

If it were legalised and regulated the crime would disappear.

I doubt this murder was the result of peddling weed unless someone can correct me? More likely to be hard drugs such as cocaine.

OneTC · 03/04/2023 17:05

Beneficialchampion2 · 03/04/2023 17:03

Nail on the head.

Just close the thread and end it here.

Marijuana is statistically less dangerous than both tobacco and alcohol, and less addictive.

If it were legalised and regulated the crime would disappear.

I doubt this murder was the result of peddling weed unless someone can correct me? More likely to be hard drugs such as cocaine.

In reality gangs move all different sorts of drugs.

StLevanBlackcaps · 03/04/2023 17:09

He was reported as being a cannabis dealer.

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Aphrathestorm · 03/04/2023 17:10

There needs to be a lot more publicity about cannabis induced paranoia.

I've seen so many lives ruined by it.

It's easier to get the effects of heroin out of your system.

Arightoldcarryabag · 03/04/2023 17:16

There needs to be a lot more publicity about the fact that cannabis is not illegal anymore, it is legal and the pipe I've just finished is no more illegal than the painkillers my MIL takes each evening that her GP prescribes.

Stop with the uneducated stigma and accept it's many benefits to society. Fully regulation as with other forward thinking Countries is the next step so get used to it.

CrumpetsandJammmm · 03/04/2023 17:18

It’s not quite that simple, is it? Weed could be legalised overnight, but all the gangs and cartels that make their money from it aren’t going to just sit back and go “awesome, now we’re legal and I can pay all the taxes I desperately wanted to pay on my drugs!”

There will be just as much crime in the short term.

Long term, sure, some drugs could benefit from behind legalised, but a worldwide weed is fine decision isn’t going to smoothly.

TheLightSideOfTheMoon · 03/04/2023 17:20

Cigarettes smell far worse.

People at my work smoke and they come in REEKING.

I don’t think weed smells as bad. Lesser of two evils.

DeedlessIndeed · 03/04/2023 17:20

Cannabis is grim. Modern day slavery is rife in cannabis farms in the UK, but most of those smoking weed couldn't give a shot about how its produced.

Whiskyinajar · 03/04/2023 17:21

Arightoldcarryabag · 03/04/2023 17:16

There needs to be a lot more publicity about the fact that cannabis is not illegal anymore, it is legal and the pipe I've just finished is no more illegal than the painkillers my MIL takes each evening that her GP prescribes.

Stop with the uneducated stigma and accept it's many benefits to society. Fully regulation as with other forward thinking Countries is the next step so get used to it.

Where do you buy it?

Nimbostratus100 · 03/04/2023 17:21

anyone who supports any part of the cannabis industry is supporting child slavery, and they know it, although some seem to think they can pretend otherwise

Nimbostratus100 · 03/04/2023 17:22

Arightoldcarryabag · 03/04/2023 17:16

There needs to be a lot more publicity about the fact that cannabis is not illegal anymore, it is legal and the pipe I've just finished is no more illegal than the painkillers my MIL takes each evening that her GP prescribes.

Stop with the uneducated stigma and accept it's many benefits to society. Fully regulation as with other forward thinking Countries is the next step so get used to it.

this is rubbish, you are advocating child slavery. And you know it

Newusernameaug · 03/04/2023 17:23

Weed actually only smells so strong when it’s combined with cigarettes, on its own it doesn’t really smell and goes very quickly.

My friends all home grown it and it’s grown with the intention of healing, so don’t judge associate everyone with hard core dealers, I know many people who home grow and think everyone should have the right to grown their own plants!

Hamsterrace · 03/04/2023 17:23

Did you give any thought to the poor children that were sent down mines for the cobalt to make your smartphone battery? The people trapped in modern slavery making clothes? The people in India and China breathing in toxic fumes from the manufacturing plants making half the stuff in your house?

I agree that the drugs trade is brutal. But guilt tripping the people at the bottom of the chain is never going to work.

ClaraThePigeon · 03/04/2023 17:23

I don’t think weed smells as bad. Lesser of two evils.

Cigarettes smell utterly vile but cannabis is even worse imo, much more pugent and it seems to spread much further.

Newusernameaug · 03/04/2023 17:23

Nimbostratus100 · 03/04/2023 17:21

anyone who supports any part of the cannabis industry is supporting child slavery, and they know it, although some seem to think they can pretend otherwise

Absolute rubbish!

Surplus2requirements · 03/04/2023 17:24

StLevanBlackcaps · 03/04/2023 17:09

He was reported as being a cannabis dealer.

But he didn't kill for cannabis, he killed for criminally made money.

The war on drugs hasn't ever and never will be won. All it does is criminalise lots of mostly young adults for the rest of their lives.

Legalise and regulate and 90% of the negative social impact disappears.

Bettyboop3 · 03/04/2023 17:25

Hamsterrace · 03/04/2023 17:23

Did you give any thought to the poor children that were sent down mines for the cobalt to make your smartphone battery? The people trapped in modern slavery making clothes? The people in India and China breathing in toxic fumes from the manufacturing plants making half the stuff in your house?

I agree that the drugs trade is brutal. But guilt tripping the people at the bottom of the chain is never going to work.

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Theluggage15 · 03/04/2023 17:27

Oh yes but there’s so many middle class saddos, many on mumsnet who think it’s fine for them to take cocaine, weed and other shit. They’re just as responsible as the dealers and suppliers for the death of the little girl, trafficking and all the other harms caused.

The drugs aren’t legal and you’re talking out of your arse if you think that would solve the problem.

AllOfThemWitches · 03/04/2023 17:29

Hamsterrace · 03/04/2023 17:23

Did you give any thought to the poor children that were sent down mines for the cobalt to make your smartphone battery? The people trapped in modern slavery making clothes? The people in India and China breathing in toxic fumes from the manufacturing plants making half the stuff in your house?

I agree that the drugs trade is brutal. But guilt tripping the people at the bottom of the chain is never going to work.

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AllOfThemWitches · 03/04/2023 17:30

Nah, if it's useful to them, it doesn't matter how many people suffered to produce it. Hypocrites.

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