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Drug users don’t give any thought to who’s behind their next spliff

199 replies

StLevanBlackcaps · 03/04/2023 16:43

I’m sick of how common smoking weed has become - you literally smell it on every street and it’s seen as no big deal to participate despite it being illegal - lots of people seem to think it’s no different to having a glass of wine and the police couldn’t give a damn.

Yet behind the scenes you’ve got scum like Thomas Cashman and the gangs who run county lines praying on vulnerable kids and funding the sort of lifestyles that many people seem to aspire to - you only have to look at Cashman’s gf with her Botox and Range Rover and all the other proceeds of his disgusting ‘career’ choice.

AIBU to think drugs are drugs and if you choose to use them you’re as bad as the arseholes who supply them?

OP posts:
Notimeforaname · 03/04/2023 18:18

Weed actually only smells so strong when it’s combined with cigarettes, on its own it doesn’t really smell and goes very quickly.

This is absolutely not true. I am a smoker.

BitOutOfPractice · 03/04/2023 18:19

Yes, like a woman I know moaning that her son had been beaten up by small scale drugs barons in their town and how disgusting it was - yet she smokes herself daily. Failed to see any link between the two...

Notimeforaname · 03/04/2023 18:20

I’d rather be surrounded by weed smokers than drunkards

I agree. I've never been attacked or bothered by a stoned person. Drunk people on the other hand...

Trinity65 · 03/04/2023 18:25

Newusernameaug · 03/04/2023 17:23

Weed actually only smells so strong when it’s combined with cigarettes, on its own it doesn’t really smell and goes very quickly.

My friends all home grown it and it’s grown with the intention of healing, so don’t judge associate everyone with hard core dealers, I know many people who home grow and think everyone should have the right to grown their own plants!

Are you serious??

Weed stinks on its own, Nothing to do with combining with cigarettes or tobacco.

WeWereInParis · 03/04/2023 18:31

If ALL drugs were legalised and properly taxed and regulated, we wouldn't be in the situation we are in now, with most of the money and power in the hands of criminals.

But they aren't currently legalised. So right now, people using them don't care where they come from and the crime that goes along with it. I agree OP.

AllOfThemWitches · 03/04/2023 18:32

WeWereInParis · 03/04/2023 18:31

If ALL drugs were legalised and properly taxed and regulated, we wouldn't be in the situation we are in now, with most of the money and power in the hands of criminals.

But they aren't currently legalised. So right now, people using them don't care where they come from and the crime that goes along with it. I agree OP.

Why do people like you totally ignore where a bunch of the stuff you buy 'comes from?'

yogitea · 03/04/2023 18:33

Should be legalised. It's so backwards that it isn't.

OriGanOver · 03/04/2023 18:34

Cannabis is not all child slavery and I agree if you're typing this on a smart phone you're an absolute hypocrite.

I actually hate cannabis - not fussed on recreational drugs. What I don't understand is why users can't use it recreationally. If you smoke then you smoke every day, wake and bake, smoke after work (if you work) always stoned and pissy if you can't get none.

If someone used cannabis as a friday night treat like a glass of wine or at a party/festival/gathering I'd not care. Well I don't massively care I just wouldn't want another relationship with a stoner who can't manage life without it.

BananasForBrains · 03/04/2023 18:37

If you used a smartphone to write this, you’re being hypocritical. I am writing this on a smartphone btw. Although I do agree that anyone who grooms kids to peddle drugs is a complete shit.

areyousittingontheremote · 03/04/2023 18:37

The way something reaches market can't be a marker for whether the end product is unethical otherwise eating meat would be unethical.

I know one's illegal and one isn't but that's neither here nor there in terms of the argument; the means of production make the end product unethical.

User98866 · 03/04/2023 18:40

Time to legalise it. There’s masses of evidence that cannabis should be legalised, instead the government just suppresses its own reports because it doesn’t fit with their image. It’s way safer than alcohol and it would wipe out a massive portion of organised crime overnight. Plus raise some tax on it too.

LlynTegid · 03/04/2023 18:40

I am with the OP on this one, and do not want anyone who takes illegal drugs to be behind the wheel of a vehicle, ever.

Of course having at least one cabinet minister who has taken illegal drugs means any attempt to have a real war on drugs will not happen.

inky1991 · 03/04/2023 18:41

And how would you feel about it if it were made legal like in Canada and some US states?

OneTC · 03/04/2023 18:46

I can't get my head around people not being able to grow a couple of plants, legally.

User135644 · 03/04/2023 18:47

CremeEggThief · 03/04/2023 16:59

YABU.

If ALL drugs were legalised and properly taxed and regulated, we wouldn't be in the situation we are in now, with most of the money and power in the hands of criminals.

The American government sharp realised it had made a MASSIVE mistake prohibiting alcohol. What a shame that all of the governments refused to admit or realise this in relation to illegal drugs.

War on drugs has been the same disaster alcohol prohibition was, only much worse actually. Al Capone and organised crime got rich beyond their wildest dreams and left a trail of death and destructions then and it happened again from Pablo Escobar onward.

Tax, regulate and legalise. Weed however is a disgusting habbit. If we're going to have this phony war on drugs, at least enforce it and stop the disgusting people smoking it in public.

User135644 · 03/04/2023 18:49

Nimbostratus100 · 03/04/2023 17:21

anyone who supports any part of the cannabis industry is supporting child slavery, and they know it, although some seem to think they can pretend otherwise

That includes the politicians who won't change nonsensical drug policies to get it out the hands of organised cirme.

ConcordeOoter · 03/04/2023 18:56
  • Drugs kill people
  • Drug dealers kill people
  • Drugs are used to manipulate and enslave sex workers generally
  • County lines is a thing
  • Cannabis in terms of crime networks is often inextricably intertwined with crack and heroine
  • Drug money is used to fund terrorist groups, illegal firearms imports and human trafficking/loan shark operations
  • Cannabis involvement in cases of admission to hospital with psychotic disorders is very high, it is one of the last things you want near someone with any predisposition, and lots of people have predispositions
  • if you smoke weed habitually there seems to be a good chance you will become a pointless dickhead who doesn't really care about those around you

So you know, if you like weed and don't give a shit, say you like weed and don't give a shit. It isn't a fucking health food, though, it isn't as ineffectual as eating a sandwich, and it is not free of repercussions for society at large.

On the other hand, certainly the "war on drugs" concept is a fraudulent excuse to divert money into miltarized government power, which is coincidentally just what they always want, and the problem only ever seems to get worse. Oopsy.

MrsMiddleMother · 03/04/2023 18:57

Aphrathestorm · 03/04/2023 17:10

There needs to be a lot more publicity about cannabis induced paranoia.

I've seen so many lives ruined by it.

It's easier to get the effects of heroin out of your system.

Completely agree with this!
My neighbour growing up was sectioned twice due to effects of cannabis. Its not as innocent a drug as people like to make out.

areyousittingontheremote · 03/04/2023 18:58

User135644 · 03/04/2023 18:49

That includes the politicians who won't change nonsensical drug policies to get it out the hands of organised cirme.

That's actually true of many industries though.

Clothes
Electronics
Anything made in China so toys,

Probably loads of others if not all to some degree

areyousittingontheremote · 03/04/2023 18:58

MrsMiddleMother · 03/04/2023 18:57

Completely agree with this!
My neighbour growing up was sectioned twice due to effects of cannabis. Its not as innocent a drug as people like to make out.

But paranoia is one of the most well known effects of cannabis, especially amongst those who smoke it.

I think the person means psychosis in which case I agree

User135644 · 03/04/2023 18:58

Thesharkradar · 03/04/2023 17:56

arguably the chief reason alcohol remains legal is that it's very difficult to ban, it occurs spontaneously in nature...things ferment just as a matter of course & alcohol is produced.
Yes some people should avoid cannabis as it causes them problems, however many people find it beneficial, enjoyable and therapeutic, acohol on the other hand is highly toxic to all tissues in the body.

The reason alcohol remains legal is America tried prohibition and it was an unmitigated disaster and smuggling and bootlegging was the making of organised crime and professional gangsters.

Yet we persist with these nonsensical drug policies, when tons and tons of people take them anyway, with the money going to organised crime. It's just an absolute nonsense.

User135644 · 03/04/2023 19:03

MrsMiddleMother · 03/04/2023 18:57

Completely agree with this!
My neighbour growing up was sectioned twice due to effects of cannabis. Its not as innocent a drug as people like to make out.

A habitual Cannabis user = good chance they're a conspiracy theorist with mental health issues

Recreational Cocaine user - arrogant twat (when high) that pisses off everyone in their vicinity.

However, it's still best to legalise and regulate and issue the harmful warnings, like we have with tobacco. A lot fewer people smoke now, although the vaping has become ridiculous.

Not to mention the harm of alcohol.

caffelattetogo · 03/04/2023 19:07

It absolutely puts money into the pockets of organised criminals. Same with cocaine.

Karwomannghia · 03/04/2023 19:10

Fewer people smoke because it was banned inside, age to buy increased, outlets limited, advertising tobacco is banned, price increased and horrible pictures put on it and more and more education about the effects which has taken years. Tobacco use has gone down because restrictions have gone up. People need restrictions.

Karwomannghia · 03/04/2023 19:10

Yep vaping has gone mad. People do not self-regulate.