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Would you date a man who cross dressed?

576 replies

Supernova23 · 03/04/2023 09:06

Compatible in most ways but they admitted from the beginning they cross dressed. Would you?

OP posts:
Hallmark1234 · 03/04/2023 10:11

A big fat NO!

I like men to be masculine and this would give me the ICK!

Laiste · 03/04/2023 10:12

@Cherrysoup oh i totally agree! I'm in the 2nd camp. (no pun intended)

I'm just saying not everyone links the phrase cross dressing with sexual motives. Most do. I do. Some don't. Some lump it all together. As seen by many posts here.

ConstanceOcean · 03/04/2023 10:13

I claim to be open minded but I wouldn’t be comfortable with this.

I have no issues if it was for fancy dress.
My ex dressed as a female celeb and I dressed as a male celeb for a fancy dress party.
He also dressed as a female with a group of friends for a NYE party but it was as a stereotypical 80+ women with glasses, a cardi and a cane.

I think it’s the sexualised cross dressing that I have an issue with, when they wear bras, lace knickers and heels.

I can’t explain it it just gives me the ick.
Maybe it’s because as a PP suggested it’s a fetish rather than a bit of fun which I’m not into.

TomatoSandwiches · 03/04/2023 10:14

No

k1233 · 03/04/2023 10:14

I don't date guys who wear socks and sandals. Haven't been in the position with cross dressing but I'd probably say no to that too.

BignBootiful · 03/04/2023 10:14

GarlicGrace · 03/04/2023 09:46

No, because the whole concept of 'cross dressing' relies on the idea of a woman as something to do with clothes, hair & makeup. I'd be really insulted that he sees my sex as something trivial and external.

I want the person I have sex with to be really into being a man having sex with a woman. Honest and primal, not some weird clothing-related business in his own head. I'd also be suspicious, with reason, that his real desire is for himself as a 'woman' - autogynephilia. Fuck that. Or, rather, I wouldn't fuck that. I'm not playing second fiddle to anybody's imaginary self.

It's different from simply pushing the boundaries of 'gender' with your fashion choices. That's what Harry Styles does, and what all the cool guys were doing in the 1980s. That isn't 'cross dressing', and I love it.

I have never heard of autogynephilia. I am so ignorant about all this and am learning a lot on this thread

k1233 · 03/04/2023 10:15

Actually, I also don't go out with guys who have long nails - gives me the ick

CamoFlamingo · 03/04/2023 10:15

I don't think so. Each to their own but I'd find it a huge turn off.

Terven · 03/04/2023 10:16

No never. 🤮

Roo1808 · 03/04/2023 10:17

No

millymog11 · 03/04/2023 10:17

I wasted more than 7 years of my youth (university days till mid 20s) on a man who on the one hand suggested he was going to propose to me on a regular basis and on the other hand regularly hinted at his wanting to cross dress.

To be honest I hold myself accountable and blame myself for carrying on that long with what was, in hindsight, a person who had zero intention of having a committed long standing heterosexual relationship with a woman.

He then married a much much older woman who was well known as a lesbian and as different from me as you could possibly get.

Sadly I have not learned my lesson and went onto have another disaster of a long term relationship but for different reasons.

In brief. When people tell you who they are believe them.

EstherUrsula · 03/04/2023 10:17

Thing about “cross dressing” is that it’s always such a bizarre interpretation of women actually aware. Invariably lots of short skirts and high glam and loads of make up

demonstrates the individual has a somewhat distorted view of women in my view

Yfory · 03/04/2023 10:17

No

HermioneKipper · 03/04/2023 10:17

No not my cup of tea in anyway.

Frankly it’s a fetish that ain’t my bag

Advicerequest · 03/04/2023 10:18

Helenloveslee4eva · 03/04/2023 10:07

Let’s just gender flip this.
you are a woman who never wears dresses , like shirts and brogues, short hair . But you are a woman who identifies themselves as woman and entirely heterosexual. would you expect men to consider you a potential partner and date you - of course.

That feels very different doesn’t it ? Cultural norms and all that ,but women battled stereotypes until really recently to be accepted dressing like that.

as regards the OP I dunno. Probably not , but if my son wanted to wear a dress as a kid I’d shrug and say fill your boots boy in a dress.

very odd when you consider the different aspects of this. Confused feelings 😂😂

There's a difference between cross dressing which is API g the dress of the opposite sex and, say, a woman in a suit or the Men I see
Flouncing down my Main Street in rather beautiful ankle length skirts and man-dresses. This is not cross dressing. It is widening the clothes thst are acceptable to your sex.

CountZacular · 03/04/2023 10:18

I can’t see cross-dressing as anything other than a kink. I don’t really think it’s the same as dressing ‘gender non-conforming’.

Unfortunately with stonewall putting everything under the trans umbrella from full surgery, transvestism and just an interest in pretty skirts as a man my mind jumps to the worse examples. And god, I’ve seen some absolute abhorrent examples on Twitter (it’s kind of scary how easy it is to stumble on these people).

So no, I wouldn’t. I would date someone who did wear more feminine clothing generally but if there’s any sign it’s a kink I’d be long gone.

FictionalCharacter · 03/04/2023 10:19

Haven’t voted because I can’t tell which way round the AIBU is. But no. It’s known that people with one paraphilia tend to have others. And you never know whether one day he’ll announce he’s an actual woman, you’re both now lesbians, you have to “support” him by doing his makeup and going on nights out with him in heels and fishnets, and if you don’t want to do any of that you’re a hateful bigot.
Everything changed when Stonewall put cross dressers under the “trans umbrella”, implying that they have “rights”.

MoongazyHare · 03/04/2023 10:19

It would be so interesting if we were to be able to de-gender clothing entirely, so that any garment was as acceptable as any other to be worn by either sex, and then see how many men still wanted to dress in heels and chiffon.

Surely the main attraction isn’t the clothes themselves (except for the sexy feelz the actual wearing of it seems to give some) but about the thrill of transgression? If a man in a skirt or dress was no longer seen as transgressing norms, I’ll bet you it would be much less popular. It seems it’s largely a kink, and I don’t want to be forced to be involved in somebody else’s fetish, which I would be by validating them by dating them.

Calmdown14 · 03/04/2023 10:19

As @JulieHoney said, there's a world of difference between gender non conforming, likes to dress as he pleases, might rock certain looks, like nail varnish etc (no problem with that)

And is a kink he wants to bring into the bedroom or gets off on it. That's very different territory that you'd have to be on board with in the same way as any other kink

Laiste · 03/04/2023 10:20

Helenloveslee4eva · Today 10:07
Let’s just gender flip this.
you are a woman who never wears dresses , like shirts and brogues, short hair . But you are a woman who identifies themselves as woman and entirely heterosexual. would you expect men to consider you a potential partner and date you - of course.

That isn't really flipping it though. A woman wearing brogues and having short hair is unlikely to be doing it because it's cheeky and sexually arouses her. She's unlikely to need the brogues as part of her sex life in order to get off.

A woman wearing clothes traditionally associated with men are usually wearing it to be comfortable/modest/easy to move/fitting or being comfortable in a male dominant environment.

You cannot tell me that any of that applies to a man swanning about in size 11 stilletos and a short satin skirt ...

cassiatwenty · 03/04/2023 10:20

Inuno · 03/04/2023 10:08

I married a Spurs fan 😳

😉

Sally090807 · 03/04/2023 10:20

Nope, what a complete turn off.

AgathaAllAlong · 03/04/2023 10:20

I just think it's important to distinguish style preference from moral judgement.

At the end of the day I know full well that my appearance would put a lot of men off me. I look like a woman and have never been mistaken for a man, but I just wear jeans and t-shirts - In my opinion, "nice" jeans and t-shirts, but still. Muddy boots, I do wear make up but minimal, I brush my hair at the start of the day and that's all the styling it gets. Some men wouldn't be at all attracted to this style, they'd think it's scruffy and nonfeminine, they might like the more carefully groomed, dress wearing, long swishy hair look. That's fine, I'm not attracted to heavily groomed men either. This is just preference.

BreviloquentBastard · 03/04/2023 10:21

I actually think it depends, some men pull off sexual androgyny really well and can make women's clothes just look like their clothes. I'm not sure I'd want a long term relationship with someone who did, but a fling might be fun, just for something a bit different.

However, fat middle aged balding Gary in his wife's voluminous thong and ill fitting Negligé, hairy back and bum on full display? No thank you.

cassiatwenty · 03/04/2023 10:21

Bobblemymind · 03/04/2023 09:53

No

Not in yellow either