Was my daughter cheeky or not?

[Apricodonut]

My daughter (early 20s) had a slight situation at work and is now worried sick that she was in the wrong.

Just for a bit of context- my daughter has been raised to be independent, confident and most of all honest. However, she has also been taught not to be forceful, domineering and cocky. She’s an intelligent young woman who is capable of standing up for what she believes is correct. I’m very proud of her but as her parent not blind to the fact she can be in the wrong too!

At her work, there was talk of a pay rise. Her manager had explicitly said there would be a pay rise for everyone as recognition for their hard work. It had been built up over the last few months to generate some excitement. Last week she had her individual meeting to discuss her pay rise and was told it was going up by certain amount. My daughter immediately realised this amount was actually the new minimum wage and that the pay rise was not due to hard work but due to the increase in the minimum wage. She said she wasn’t bothered by not getting a pay rise in the first place, but felt it was disingenuous to suggest the new pay was due to hard work as has been said rather than due to a new minimum wage. My daughter said she pointed this out, and that while she was happy with the pay she also wasnt happy that they were suggesting it was a generous pay increase rather than just the law. Her manager disagreed and said it was a pay rise for hard work. My daughter said this isn’t the first time something like this has happened and that she stood her ground that the situation was dishonest and misleading. She said it turned into a lengthy discussion about it but eventually it was left that she was unhappy with the situation as it was handled.

Just to clarify she is never rude or aggressive and is actually a strong debater, but sometimes she struggles to know when to leave something for the greater good even though it may be correct

She said her manager is clearly annoyed at her now and she regrets speaking up. She’s considering formally apologising but I thought it would be worthwhile getting some other opinions and thoughts on the situation first.

TIA x

she felt she was being treated as difficult and gobby

she is being treated as difficult and gobby. And her next lesson is that it’s workplace gaslighting and works to keep everyone grateful for small mercies and in check. She is not wrong to feel this way, but is is wrong to assume she should apologise. She’s gone against the party line in the eyes of her manager and so needs to be quietened.

honesty we really do need more unions but the very people they are there to protect, often don’t want the help and just want their heads down.

@Apricodonut , well said.

@luckylavender all that can be true alingside the fact that they're trying to say it's a reward for working hard, when it's not, it's the least they can legally get away with. They'd have to do it even if the staff were crap!

they're treating their staff like idiots.

@Apricodonut if your daughter is all you say she is (and there's not bucket loads if mummy bias 😂😂) WTF is she doing a MW job gir a bunch of twats?? She needs to get a much better job!!

I’d be proud of her for speaking up, not thinking your adult daughter was being “cheeky”. Good for her standing up for what is right, she’s obviously no one’s door mat.

Yeah exactly what I was thinking. Tell her to get out of a dead end minimum wage job.