Drape St George Flag/Union Jack in upstairs front window? An MN no-no?

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How would this go down with the MN demographic ?

During a sporting event think nothing of it. Otherwise always suspect the person flying it is doing so for political reasons.

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We did reclaim the flags for a while, in the 90's. On the favourite PM thread most said Blair, so it's a shame we can't go back there. St George is featured on Barcelona's flag. He's a worldwide Saint and there's shrines to him in the middle east, throughout the Muslim world etc. It makes me laugh when the thick racists put up his fag, declaring that they don't care who it offends. The Muslims around them will know more about St George than they will. Fly the flag of Ukraine, that seems to get everyone's vote.

The only people I know of who do it will look for any reason to start a fight (usually involving football teams).
I noticed more union flags out during the Jubilee, still thought it was unbelievably tacky, but there may be things in my house that others find tacky. 🤷‍♀️

This made me snort

Ah, Wojtek. He lived his last years in Edinburgh so surely we have some claim to have him on the flag of the Scottish Republic. It's going to be awesome!

I assume that the Scottish, Welsh, American flags, in fact anything else, meet with your approval?

Obvious wrong 'uns with Union Flags all year round:

January 6th 2021 - People carrying the stars and stripes hitting police over the head with their flagpoles. Are these not right wing racist yobbos?

All flags are abused by nationalist movements and extremists. It should never make you ashamed to display it and reclaim its use.

Right Wing extremists in Trafalgar Square? How soon we forget.

I think it’s great. Every other country does it, why shouldn’t we?
I am decking the front of my house for The Coronation. 😄

A flag more suitable for modern England?

Anyone who has an England flag hanging out a window all year around is going to be a wrong 'un.

^This. And I don't especially think that's sad. I just don't see the need for flag-waving tbh. I don't think that devotion to your own country is a particularly desirable trait.

Why not? I can feel how I feel. Pretending the George cross doesn't have connotations is silly.

Growing up in South London, Asian and Black friends couldn't go into the pubs with bunting in red and white and get out unscathed. Just because the Queen died, doesn't wipe decades of that feeling. Of fear and prejudice and risk.

Not sure I understand the obsession people have with flying flags. Even in counties where it's very common. I mean what are you actually trying to say by flying a flag? You're a good patriot? You're proud? Proud of what exactly? General proudness?

The USA always amazes me. Everyone seems to fly them and pledge allegiance to the flag. It's like some sort of indoctrination. It's what I'd expect in North Korea or China. Bizarre.

Sporting events and the coronation, yes. For no reason, no. We know this is Britain, no need to put flags to remind everyone walking past. Deeply strange.

I’ve always thought the Americans obsession with having their flags everywhere was due to some level of insecurity. We don’t need to copy them. I think the ‘older’ countries don’t need to do this, their reputations are long established.

A friend lives in an area which has a few of these houses around and it makes it look quite down at heel. When I see a few clustered, I imagine the kind of area where gangs of unemployed people chant and set fire to asylum seeker hotels or attack the local paediatrician confusing them with a paedophile. I know she’d struggle to sell it.

If a neighbour put up a flagpole or flags in their window for no reason, I’d be visiting the estate agent pretty soon afterwards.

My friend was buying a house with the whole St George's flag thing going on, she asked do you think its a bad sign. I said yes.

I was right.

Nasty racist cunty neighbours.

Fine for coronation

Well yes, @jcyclops . But displaying a flag is SO commonplace in America that you can’t draw any conclusions from it.

My neighbors, a married gay couple who’ve never voted Republican in their lives often put a flag out. 🤷

Not sure I understand the link.between flying your national flag and being a 'wrongun'. Says more about the person with that opinion if you ask me.
I'll fly the union/St George's flag for big sporting occasions, jubilee/coronation and St Georges Day. The whole house was decked with Union bunting for the jubilee and many others in the street were too, including the houses of ethnic minority neighbours. Very festive it looked.

I agree. Displaying the flag in the USA is so common that it is not associated solely with right wing extremists, but with all Americans. This is why the Union Flag should be displayed much more to reclaim it for everyone, not just racist idiots.

I think the question is flying the flag outside of those events. I can't see an issue supporting your country during the world cup etc. Or at a coronation. But flying the flag generally in a just strange.

Fine for events but if it was permanent I would probably think EDL, BNP etc.

I do notice that primary school children are quite excited about wearing the Union Jack for RF events, Olympic events etc, but when they reach second school they are less likely to openly wave the flag.

I remember very well the 80s where National Front / skinheads wore it aggressively as a shield to intimidate black people. .

Like @Brefugee I will proudly display my favourite Coronavirus Flag on Minden Day.