Drape St George Flag/Union Jack in upstairs front window? An MN no-no?

[Stilted]

How would this go down with the MN demographic ?

We put flags up for royal events, but not otherwise.

I do think it is sad (but true) that flying our national flag is seen as a negative.

Well, I'm posh AF and would rather eat wasps. Does that help?

I agree with PP’s that putting out your country’s flag is completely normal in many, many countries and doesn’t have negative connotations.

But in England it does, unfortunately. Perhaps if more people started doing it though, it would gradually lose the negative associations?? I dunno.

It is very sad.

But in England it does, unfortunately. Perhaps if more people started doing it though, it would gradually lose the negative associations?? I dunno.

True. Maybe I'll put one up.

I’d assume someone liked Tommy Robinson/ Nigel Farage if I saw a St George’s Cross flying. Less so a Union Flag, but it’s still a bit cringe.

It’s a bit EDL, rightly or wrongly.

I live in a very diverse American city (brought up in England) and you literally see every type of flag here. People will put out countries’ flags to which they have a familial connection, as well as the Stars and Stripes. No one would bat an eyelid if I stuck out a Union Jack/St.George’s and the American flag. It would just signify that we’re a multi-national family. 😂

I found it weird to begin with, but now I rather like seeing them.

If you want to put one up, go for it. I think it's sad that you can't display your own flag without people thinking you're some sort of terrible person.

There's a house near us with a St George's cross flying all the time. He also had a huge pro-Brexit banner in 2016, which was absolutely not a surprise. Definitely a BNP-type.

Unfortunately if someone flew it all the time I'd assume they were racist/UKIP-y. Union Jack less so, but still an odd thing to do and very off-putting. During the World Cup/Euros - absolutely fine, though not something I would personally do.

@Brefugee . "The only flag i really like is the Welsh one and it grieves me that I'm not Welsh so don't ever fly / use one".

Slightly off topic but I can't decide if the Welsh flag is the coolest flag in the world or the flag of Vladivostok. I mean, dragons are cool but a tiger climbing a fucking mountain.................

I know people who have their national flags in windows.
Even as an immigrant here, I don't find St George's flag displayed automatically bad.

Generally speaking, I feel like displaying your own flag in your own country during peace time is a bit of a red flag.

This.

BNP ?

OMG @Mochudubh I need one of those!!!

I wish more people would display the England flag so we can reclaim it from the knuckle daggers.

It's a real shame that those 2 flags now have these connotations, but I would definitely assume you had far right/racist beliefs and would avoid you. Not the same with other flags, I don't know how we got here.

Very common to see Union Jacks in parts of Northern Ireland.

It shouldn't but those flags both do have negative connotations unfortunately. I feel lucky to have been born here with all of its comparable comforts and privileges, and I don't particularly want to live anywhere else. But I don't feel like I want to make a big statement about it, which I think is what a flag does, because i don't feel that a flag represents me. And they're ugly. As PP have said, if there was a dragon involved, I'd be swathed in it!

Have you seen Scotland's other flag the Rampant lion ? I love that one .

up until the men's football world cup was held in Germany there were very few German flags around except on official buildings etc. There was a reluctance - despite the fact that this isn't the national flag that was around pre 1945 - to even hint at any sort of national pride for fear of it being seen as nationalism.

But then the world cup happened and two things became obvious. The non Germans among us hung our own flags out of our windows, and so on. Then a few Germans did it too, and shops had displays of merch and so on. And suddenly we were awash in black-red-gold and it has obviously calmed right down, but whenever there are tournaments, olympics etc, a lot of them come out again (except for the last world cup, even the few shops that had Coca-cola promotions took them down after the first week). And all the other nationalities cheerfully hang out their flags too, or on their own national days.

We're currently awash with a lot of Ukranian flags, and an occasional defiant Russian flag (but not many)

Have you seen Scotland's other flag the Rampant lion ? I love that one

yep, love that one too. But. Dragons (although i do like that the Scottish coat of arms has a unicorn)

I'd never do it but I'm not the patriotic, flag shagging type.

I'm also not an attention seeker so don't really feel the need to display stuff on my house, put red noses on my car etc

It's all a bit naff and I realise that probably makes me a snob.

In MN world you would be deemed to be an absolute racist if you did this. I think it's fine for football tournaments (St George's flag) but bit chavvy for every day. It's a shame as nearly every other country is proud to fly its own flag but it appears to be something to be ashamed of in England.