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Teenager told me I “play the victim” all the time

150 replies

PiccaZ · 26/03/2023 20:45

Which is exactly the same thing his father always accused me of.

So I genuinely am asking you all if IABU or not, am I playing the victim?

Ive been non stop all day, up at 7 to take teenager to the gym, food shopping, home, took other DC out for the day to a place they wanted to go to, home about 4, sorted school clothes, cleaned downstairs, packed lunches, school and home admin. Put dinner on. DS says he had a headache but no paracetamol in the house, I go out to get paracetamol, come home and he asks for berroca, go back out and get bloody berroca. Finally sit down with a glass of wine and DD comes in “what time is dinner” - explain about 20 mins. Then 2nd DD comes in “what time is dinner” - 20 bloody minutes, then DS comes in “what time is dinner” - FGS it’s 20 BLOODY MINUTES.

DS then accuses me of always being grumpy , I explained it was the 3rd time I’d been asked within the space of 2 mins, I’m trying to have a quiet glass of wine whilst cooking, it Will be ready when it’s bloody ready

and then I get the “oh poor mummy always playing the victim”

AIBU here? Ok he didn’t know I’d already been asked twice before so probably wondered why he was getting shouted at, I get that

OP posts:
DeadbeatYoda · 26/03/2023 21:30

ScramblePud · 26/03/2023 21:25

You shouted and swore at your child with a headache for asking what time dinner was? And your excuse is that you did exactly what every other parent on the planet has to do?

In what world in 'bloody' swearing? Clutch this pearls a little firmer, eh.

Botw1 · 26/03/2023 21:31

Since when was a raised exclamation of bloody shouting and swearing?!

Or justification for disrespect?

LuckySantangelo35 · 26/03/2023 21:31

ScramblePud · 26/03/2023 21:25

You shouted and swore at your child with a headache for asking what time dinner was? And your excuse is that you did exactly what every other parent on the planet has to do?

@ScramblePud

have you actually read OP’s posts??

also it’s not what all parents would do. Most people would have been telling him to jog at the berocca request

Hobbitlover · 26/03/2023 21:33

My foot would be connecting with his arse, cheeky fecker!

C2190 · 26/03/2023 21:36

He sounds like an ungrateful little shit.

JMSA · 26/03/2023 21:37

Sympathies. I long for the day when the teenage years are over and they've moved out Grin

MarchMadness23 · 26/03/2023 21:49

PiccaZ · 26/03/2023 21:08

I work. A lot. They don’t see me much through the week. I think I feel bad at weekends so want to make it up to them

To the PP who mentioned my ex, Christ I don’t bad mouth him at all; we get on well

@PiccaZ

neither of you seem to understand what 'playing the victim' means. (It doesn't mean being grumpy).

if he sounds like his father, I'd really wonder what your ex is saying when they're with him alone. I'd be having words with the Ex.

Don't ket DS get away with speaking to you like that. I'd be putting him straight in that language, attitude & lack of appreciation. Then I'd be saying 'no' to all his requests for lifts. After all you wouldn't want to be tired & grumpy later would you ?!?! You need to get this out of him before he gets any older!!

MN is weird about kids doing their own laundry. It makes far more sense to me to do it as family washing & I agree kids do a shite job of properly cleaning.

if they didn't hear each other asking how long until dinner, it was a bit unfair to snap at the third one, but meh, not the end of the world!

hope you gave more wine and a bit of peace now!!

AdoraBell · 26/03/2023 21:50

Can you get food delivered? That could help.

YANBU to relax after running around and no, you are not playing the victim.

As for DS wanting the Baroca after you went out to get paracetamol I would have said - you should have asked before I left to get the paracetamol.

Start being a bit more assertive with him.

Miajk · 26/03/2023 21:52

DaveyJonesLocker · 26/03/2023 21:12

Tbh yeah I agree with him. You've written this whole long list of everything you've done but it's all basic life and parenting stuff. They didn't choose to be born, your kid is poorly, it's your job to provide them with medication. Personally I have a kit with everything in so I don't have to run out for stuff, you choose not to so you have to get medication when it's required.

If you communicated to them when to expect dinner you wouldn't have to say it so many times. I don't like this idea that kids should be expected to eat whatever they're given whenever they're given it. We wouldn't enjoy that.

So yeah, I think you're complaining about the very normal life you've chosen and it's not their fault.

100% this!

Sounds like you snap at them over nothing but don't like when they snap back. If you choose that you want to have kids, you're choosing the responsibility of feeding them and making sure they have medication and whatever else they need.

People on here saying your child is ungrateful are using some weird logic I can't understand. Grateful for having basic needs met when they didn't choose to come into this world themselves?

Miajk · 26/03/2023 21:53

MarchMadness23 · 26/03/2023 21:49

@PiccaZ

neither of you seem to understand what 'playing the victim' means. (It doesn't mean being grumpy).

if he sounds like his father, I'd really wonder what your ex is saying when they're with him alone. I'd be having words with the Ex.

Don't ket DS get away with speaking to you like that. I'd be putting him straight in that language, attitude & lack of appreciation. Then I'd be saying 'no' to all his requests for lifts. After all you wouldn't want to be tired & grumpy later would you ?!?! You need to get this out of him before he gets any older!!

MN is weird about kids doing their own laundry. It makes far more sense to me to do it as family washing & I agree kids do a shite job of properly cleaning.

if they didn't hear each other asking how long until dinner, it was a bit unfair to snap at the third one, but meh, not the end of the world!

hope you gave more wine and a bit of peace now!!

Surely it's easier to teach kids by logical example and treat them with respect rather than snap at them but expect respect back?

CherryCokeFanatic · 26/03/2023 21:56

You sound irritable and moody.

You pander to your kids. Why is a berocca needed for anything? It is not a proven medicine

You choose to cater to your children and be up at the crack of dawn and running round after them all day. They could be doing homework, enjoying leisure/chill time in bedrooms/living room or out and about locally with friends if that’s possible. You could limit trips out so they aren’t first thing in the morning and only if it’s convenient. You can tell your children to ask your ex (if he’s about) to assist with some of their other wants e.g. lift to whatever hobbie or to go to the gym.

RudsyFarmer · 26/03/2023 21:57

I think you’re playing the martyr. Why are you going out to get paracetamol, then going out to get fizzy vitamin tablets. Just say no. I’m sure they’ll survive.

Devoutspoken · 26/03/2023 21:58

I have to say there are alot of threads on the same subject, mums who complain about doing too much. You haven't really explained why you can't get your food delivered, and you take your teenage son to the gym at 7, so he can keep fit,? Could he not do exercise at home or back garden, or run or cycle?!

PinkSyCo · 26/03/2023 21:58

I don’t know about playing victim, but you are definitely a martyr who has bought up 4 spoilt, lazy ingrates. Stop running around after them so much, they are taking the piss.

FirstnameSuesecondnamePerb · 26/03/2023 22:01

You see, I genuinely think at that point you should be able to batter them with imunity.
My middle dd was like that. She has grown up to be a decent adult I'm pleased to report

LakeTiticaca · 26/03/2023 22:05

Stop running around after teenagers who are capable of doing stuff for themselves.

My teenagers would have had a thick ear if they behaved like this.
They never did because they knew what the consequences would be

FelicityFlops · 26/03/2023 22:09

You need to do some stakeholder management here.
Weekly family meeting to firm up the activities' diary -
who is doing what when and who needs to be transported.
those at home, who is going to cook.
meal planning.
laundry planning and who is going to do it.
general housework planning. What needs to be done by whom and when.
rewards, or motivation - this needs to come from you.
You are not "staff".

Uurrjb · 26/03/2023 22:10

If a teenager is going to the gym on own I’m guessing at least 16, can they not bike and you seriously went out to get your teen some dissolvable vitamins? Could they not do that themselves??? Why did that need an emergency drive out after previously going out for them

Starseeed · 26/03/2023 22:10

Haven’t read the whole thread. Your opening post is playing the victim - your story is all about how you’re doing things for everyone else and you’re not happy about it. You feel like the things you do all day are not what you’d rather be doing and that your actions aren’t within your control. If you read your opening post back can you feel the dissonance in it? If you were happy with how you chose to spend your day, how would you have described it differently?

Please know that there’s nothing shameful about feeling like a victim - it’s one of the major ‘archetypes’ many many people have in their psyche, and it’s fixable.

You could admit you’re not happy about doing all that you do for the family, and then do something about that - On the surface this likely means setting better boundaries, stop picking up after everyone, train your children to pick up after themselves etc.

On a deeper level, it means addressing your feelings and needs. Why do you resent the things you do for your family? Do you really wish someone would look after you for a change? I think it’s pretty likely it’s this that’s at the root of it - maybe no one has really looked out for you when you were younger? Were you encouraged to grow up quicker than you should have done? Did your parents ‘parentifiy’ you? Do you have relationships in your life where you feel like people genuinely care about you and look out for you? Recommend looking up ‘people pleasing’ too (which is actually more accurately described as parent-pleasing).

If you get your emotional needs met (by looking after yourself - look up re-parenting) you’re less likely to feel hard done by and used by others. You’ll feel more in control of your life and what you do daily, so much happier and less of a victim to other people’s needs and whims. And your family won’t feel put-upon by the undercurrent in your narrative about them that your unhappiness is all their fault.

Tropicaliyes · 26/03/2023 22:19

Children oftentimes can mimic their parents, peers or role models.. In this case you know where it has come from, your ex.

I don’t speak to my family however my mother always had this nasty attitude towards me. She would often try to play her irritation off with sarcasm and even with other people when she don’t care to hear about whatever your problem is she would say “oh cry me a river!” With such a blasè attitude. Due to toxicity I left the family (mum kicked me out at 16) and by late teens, early 20’s I was having a one off rare phone conversation with my little brother (who I use to do a lot for when he was younger) and he was telling me about a load of stuff he was doing which at his age our mum would never allow my sister and i to do. I remember mentioning that and basically how he is lucky he gets whatever privileges as my sister and I didn’t and his response was “oh cry me a river!” Never had he spoken to me like that before and never again did it happen!

It was clear where it had come from, it was the exact same way my mum would say it, it was the same tone and everything. My mum would bad mouth me behind my back (as well as in front) and she slowly poisoned him against me so that was the last contact with him as I knew it would just get worse from there (and it did).

remember you are the mother and in control of your kids here. ALL of your kids are old enough to be taking care of themselves, even the 8 year old (of course can do less but isn’t useless). I can get the frustration of being asked 3 times in like seconds however it sounds like this is a regular occurrence that this is routine now which makes me assume they never once help you make the dinner they would like to be eating?

the older teens need to be taking turns in the household duties and should be having days of cooking dinner themselves for everyone, it should be taken in turns. Even washing the uniforms, they are old enough to be washing their own uniform and if your children don’t know how to cook, clean, do laundry etc. then it’s down to you to show them the ropes and give them a period to learn to do these things. Show them all how to use the washing machine (including the 8 year old but don’t expect he/she does their own laundry) and get them into the habit of doing a load or two of washing for themselves then slowly transition it to them doing their laundry etc. same with cooking… show them how to make certain foods watch them do it themselves and then let them have their cooking days.

you for sure are being a push over, I understand there is hardly anything nearby, but as someone suggested get them bikes (since you are promoting exercise) and let them run their own errands. Stock up on painkillers or medications so you don’t have to run out like you did and as PP said, Berocca is not going to help his ailments and he won’t die without it, sounds like he is drinking it like a standard drink which in itself isn’t healthy so if he wants it, make sure when he is in town he picks up whatever he feels he would need at home and whatever he doesn’t have he will have to wait until he can next get it, especially something like that!

online shopping can be delivered to almost all areas of the U.K. now so try and take advantage of that! Sit down for once and let your kids do some of the errands your running around doing. Fair enough they might not do as good of a job as you but sitting down and letting them do it shows your serious and won’t be taking no nonsense.

my mother would say for the dishes “one wash, one dry” to my sister and i while she put her feet up… some days we got lazy and got the idea if we done the job poorly she would ultimately have to do it herself and stop asking us as clearly we are useless at doing it! My mum would rush us back in there, show us the poor job we done and make us do it again until it’s done correctly (we quickly learned we couldn’t get out of it that way). Same with laundry, she taught us early on and by the time we got to secondary school if we didn’t have uniform for Monday then that was on us as we never actively washed it ourself! She didn’t cave in and do it herself as if doesn’t impact her so we learned if we didn’t do it, we would have no clean laundry for the week ahead!

don’t even entertain the whole “your playing a victim” comments. Once they start being made to contribute to the household, there will be less time for you to complain your essentially doing everything and would have more time to yourself. You will soon see the roles reverse and they be the ones complaining and “playing the victim” just because they can’t live easy anymore.

this would also be a great learning curve for your 8 year old that would be learning their time will come when they reach a certain age except since you would have already taught them, it would be automatic for them to be able to do it instead of it being a drag like it’s likely to be with your teens!

Btw my little brother would have the occasional accident wetting the bed at 6-7, and since he was so embarrassed he would wake up, un-strip his bed, put the wet bedding to wash, tumble dry and back on his bed sometimes before my mum even noticed he wet the bed! he was younger than your little one so take advantage of teaching them early so it becomes automatic later on.

LuckySantangelo35 · 26/03/2023 22:19

Miajk · 26/03/2023 21:52

100% this!

Sounds like you snap at them over nothing but don't like when they snap back. If you choose that you want to have kids, you're choosing the responsibility of feeding them and making sure they have medication and whatever else they need.

People on here saying your child is ungrateful are using some weird logic I can't understand. Grateful for having basic needs met when they didn't choose to come into this world themselves?

@Miajk

berocca isn’t a basic need

and this is a teenage boy we’re talking about, not a tiny defenceless baby!

they absolutely should be grateful and appreciative of their mother and everything she does for them- of course they should!!

JudgeRudy · 26/03/2023 22:20

Hmmm.....so 2 people have regularly used the same phrase. Assuming your son has a headache and is hungry he's probably thinking your snappy was a bit of an over reaction to a simple question and a bit less tolerant than usual so sniped back. Maybe later explain that unfortunately he was the 3rd person in 15mins to ask that Q. You too were hungry but couldn't start earlier as you were making TWO trips to the shop.

You've also ran other lad to the gym. Could he start cycling places or getting the bus.
Do you have an outside life. If I was essentially a domestic servant I'd be pretty pissed off.

georgarina · 26/03/2023 22:20

Like others have said

Sounds like you're annoyed because you're doing too much unnecessary work for your older kids.

You don't need to take them to the gym etc.
Amazed you went out to get Berocca...you're not a personal assistant?? Can't imagine asking a family member who'd just got in from shopping to get another inessential item - never mind them doing it!!

So yeah in that sense I can see the martyr/victim element. Just because someone asks you to do something doesn't mean you HAVE to do it and then will be annoyed.

You'll feel better if you enforce normal boundaries.

Heronwatcher · 26/03/2023 22:21

YANBU about the dinner but unless there was someone helping with all of these tasks YABU. You sound like you cater for their every whim, and I am not sure it’ll do them any favours. They should be doing a lot of this themselves, dinner, lunches etc. The painkillers I understand but berocca- no way- and if the teenager wants to work out at 7am, why can’t he do an online workout or cycle to the gym? Plus if either of my kids were that rude to me, they would have screens taken off and no lifts/ preparing of packed lunches until they’d apologised.

slowquickstep · 26/03/2023 22:21

Stop being a doormat. Your children thing you are the housekeeper because you act like one. You reap what you sow

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