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MNetters obsession with weight and dress size

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pagopago · 25/03/2023 21:11

Why are MN posters so obsessed with weight and dress size?

There have recently been quite a lot of weight related threads.

Depressing to see that women are still very much judged on appearance and body size. I couldn't care less what size you are or how much you weigh. Just be a decent, kind person.

No fat shaming or body shaming from me.

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Lastnamedidntstick · 26/03/2023 16:22

Fifi1010 · 26/03/2023 16:14

9 stone and a height of 5'4 is a BMI of 21.5 and perfectly healthy. That's scary

From the “to think you can look ok at 13 stone thread:

i’m 5 foot 4 and nine stone and I’m definitely looking “curvy” which is me being optimistic about the fact that I’m overweight

there’s plenty more as well.

ReneBumsWombats · 26/03/2023 16:23

Bellasocks · 26/03/2023 16:19

I eat 1000 calories 4 days before competitions. I level at 1500 to 1800.Not that I should have to again defend myself.

Before what competitions? Final Fantasy?

Plock · 26/03/2023 16:23

Anyway, this thread has made me want some haagen dazs.

Plock · 26/03/2023 16:24

ReneBumsWombats · 26/03/2023 16:23

Before what competitions? Final Fantasy?

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Kitcaterpillar · 26/03/2023 16:28

Bellasocks · 26/03/2023 16:19

I eat 1000 calories 4 days before competitions. I level at 1500 to 1800.Not that I should have to again defend myself.

Are you a particularly slow swimmer? Noone training at the level you describe with any intensity is eating 1500 calories a day.

NeedWineNow · 26/03/2023 16:33

I haven't read through the whole thread so apologies everyone but I do agree that the tone and even heading of some of the threads lately has been unsettling. I'm thinking particularly of the thread headed 'Losing weight is the only way to look good '. It just struck me as a heading that could be triggering for various reasons.

ghostyslovesheets · 26/03/2023 16:39

so you don't eat under 1000 calories a day then (under 1000 but full of protein and healthy fat - aye?) - you just do it occasionally and normal is actually just under 2000

Brilliant stuff!

But why do you think fat people should endlessly have to defend their choices to people like you? Is it because your slim so therefore better then them?

I refuse to mention my weight or size on this thread so if you wish to continue to view me as a bitter fatty because I dislike toxic diet culture feel free

SweetCoriander · 26/03/2023 16:43

ReneBumsWombats · 26/03/2023 15:59

Ah, don't encourage him.

But surely 'Having self control over yourself and your body does not equal anorexia' is worthy of being entered for the Nobel Prize?

Miajk · 26/03/2023 16:46

VyeBrator · 26/03/2023 13:21

And on the other side of the coin are children growing up in homes where both parents are overweight and doing absolutely nothing about it, often leading to the children being overweight too.

It's about the example you set for your children, for other younger people.

Not a great example at all is it?

I never said it was. Neither is a good example. But the "let me be" attitude is selfish as hell as you're affecting other people.

KimberleyClark · 26/03/2023 16:57

Lastnamedidntstick · 26/03/2023 16:22

From the “to think you can look ok at 13 stone thread:

i’m 5 foot 4 and nine stone and I’m definitely looking “curvy” which is me being optimistic about the fact that I’m overweight

there’s plenty more as well.

I’ve seen “I feel chubby if my BMI goes over 18.5”.

Anonymouseposter · 26/03/2023 16:57

This thread didn't set out to make slim people feel bad and it's nothing to do with jealousy. It was about why women continue to judge each other so much on appearance. It isn't getting at slim people at all, just people who write nasty stuff about other people's bodies and eating habits. I have no axe to grind. I am one of those people that some people on here might call overweight but I'm actually just a normal average size and don't think about it very much.

ReneBumsWombats · 26/03/2023 16:57

Kitcaterpillar · 26/03/2023 16:28

Are you a particularly slow swimmer? Noone training at the level you describe with any intensity is eating 1500 calories a day.

Yes, he'll be quite slow. He does swim, though. You need to when you live under a bridge.

FrostyFifi · 26/03/2023 17:05

The hirsute hands might slow him down as well.

idontlikementhols · 26/03/2023 17:22

FrostyFifi · 26/03/2023 15:04

@Emmalj65 that's just deliberately unpleasant of you. Is the 65 in your name related to your DOB out of interest?

I think it's her IQ.

RubyVioletsGarden · 26/03/2023 17:28

ItsBeginningToScabOverNow · 25/03/2023 21:13

There’s a seriously pro-ana undertone here of late.

Yup

Fizbosshoes · 26/03/2023 17:38

I used to be anorexic. Now I'm not, but I'm neither overweight or obese. I maintain weight but I don't feel the need to justify my own figure or judge other peoples.
I recognise that many posters despite protesting otherwise likely have disordered eating, and that there are many reasons for that, and many reasons why a person might be average, overweight or obese.
Having a high bmi can lead to health problems, as can having a very low bmi. I think most people know this. Pointing it out and using words like "shovelling" (I've never seen anyone eat with a shovel but ive seen food served on a shovel at a poncy hipster place) is not helpful, and doesn't make you a better person.

newjobnewstartihope · 26/03/2023 17:46

Fizbosshoes · 26/03/2023 17:38

I used to be anorexic. Now I'm not, but I'm neither overweight or obese. I maintain weight but I don't feel the need to justify my own figure or judge other peoples.
I recognise that many posters despite protesting otherwise likely have disordered eating, and that there are many reasons for that, and many reasons why a person might be average, overweight or obese.
Having a high bmi can lead to health problems, as can having a very low bmi. I think most people know this. Pointing it out and using words like "shovelling" (I've never seen anyone eat with a shovel but ive seen food served on a shovel at a poncy hipster place) is not helpful, and doesn't make you a better person.

Absolutely. The sneering undertones are shocking

Anonymouseposter · 26/03/2023 17:50

Fizbosshoes · 26/03/2023 17:38

I used to be anorexic. Now I'm not, but I'm neither overweight or obese. I maintain weight but I don't feel the need to justify my own figure or judge other peoples.
I recognise that many posters despite protesting otherwise likely have disordered eating, and that there are many reasons for that, and many reasons why a person might be average, overweight or obese.
Having a high bmi can lead to health problems, as can having a very low bmi. I think most people know this. Pointing it out and using words like "shovelling" (I've never seen anyone eat with a shovel but ive seen food served on a shovel at a poncy hipster place) is not helpful, and doesn't make you a better person.

Well said!

Laiste · 26/03/2023 18:02

@BeretRaspberry convo has moved on but i really wanted to say that MIL often goes on about how teeny tiny ALL the adults were ''back then''.

Her latest rant (just last weekend) was about how she ''Doesn't understand how the majority of adults are able to fit through train doors anymore'' ... 🙄

I kid you not. She said, about 4 times, ''Oh yes we were ALL just skin and bones back then weren't we FIL? Weren't we!!?? Just.skin.and.bones!'' (meaning adults in general). She was talking about when her kids were young. Which was the 80s.

I mean, the hyperbole gets worse and worse. It's painful!

Glad that's off my chest 😃

Kitcaterpillar · 26/03/2023 18:30

fit through train doors

@Laiste Beserk and yet, hilariously specific.

Laiste · 26/03/2023 18:36

Kitcaterpillar · 26/03/2023 18:30

fit through train doors

@Laiste Beserk and yet, hilariously specific.

I do see the funny side 😂

I'm blessed/cursed with the ability to remember conversations in specific detail (not faces or names mind you) and all this sort of rubbish swills round my head and keeps me awake sometimes. Aaarrrgghh.

Anonymouseposter · 26/03/2023 18:37

Laiste Your MIL is wrong. I was there, I have been there since the 1950s-people varied in size and shape as they do now. She sounds a right pain (and I often defend the MIL)

UpperLowerMiddleClass · 26/03/2023 18:59

In terms of whether people were generally slimmer overall make in ‘the day’ (whenever that was) I think one thing that has changed is the expectation on women to look young for longer. And part of this is maintaining a low weight.

My impression is that a couple of generations ago there was pressure to some extent for young women to be slim but that once you were forties and middle aged and had probably had a few kids there wasn’t a strong expectation to look as slim as you were in your twenties.

Whereas nowadays, and in particular on some of these mumsnet threads, women in their forties and older have the expectation that they could / should have the same body they had in their twenties. Which is often only going to be achievable by strict never ending dieting.

BeretRaspberry · 26/03/2023 19:22

Laiste · 26/03/2023 18:02

@BeretRaspberry convo has moved on but i really wanted to say that MIL often goes on about how teeny tiny ALL the adults were ''back then''.

Her latest rant (just last weekend) was about how she ''Doesn't understand how the majority of adults are able to fit through train doors anymore'' ... 🙄

I kid you not. She said, about 4 times, ''Oh yes we were ALL just skin and bones back then weren't we FIL? Weren't we!!?? Just.skin.and.bones!'' (meaning adults in general). She was talking about when her kids were young. Which was the 80s.

I mean, the hyperbole gets worse and worse. It's painful!

Glad that's off my chest 😃

OMG! How weirdly odd. And as someone else said, how weirdly specific!😂😂

Admittedly I was only a kid in the 80’s (and as such was a teenager of the ‘heroin chic’ of the 90’s) but I can remember quite a significant number of larger people.

ReneBumsWombats · 26/03/2023 19:22

Loads of fat people in the 80s. My mother was on Weight Watchers, so were most of her friends. Diet industry did a roaring trade.