To say you can still look okay at 13 stone?

[sayitaintsobow]

I'm 13 stone 7... To my horror! I knew I'd put on a lot rapidly in a short space of time. I'm aware this actually makes me obese. And I need to lose weight for my health

I don't think I look huge though. Definitely not. Might say I'm a bit chubby at a push. Face doesn't look too fat

AIBU to say you can actually be obese and not realise because you don't look 'fat'?

I'm 5'3 so not tall

Ok 37%…. I said 35%…,, As I mentioned in my first and second comment I was overweight and my fat was too high. You asked about % muscle to which I posted the details and screen shot of the report. My point was that previously at. 11 stone I was tiny and the report helped me to understand why ( because I had high muscle so at 11 stone I weighed heavier, I looked gaunt & I was a small size 10). If the point of your replies was to tell me I was fat in this scan I’m well aware I was. I told you in my reply the context of my fatness. What’s your point? Making yourself feel better for the day?

Some people on this thread are mind-bogglingly rude.

I am guilty of not reading every post carefully to find out ML16 previously said she had 35% fat. I did understand one statistic on ML16's chart, though.

I'm just kind of working it out...

This link says up to 73% of female body being non-fat is expected, not that unusual.

This says about 30% of female body is typically skeletal muscle. This also says about 30% as typical for females...... but the neat bit is a woman who had 50% of her mass as skeletal muscle in 2nd chart. If ML16 was 37% body composition fat, I doubt she had 50% skeletal muscle, because 13% for rest of her mass seems too small. But we don't know what threshold is called "abnormal" by who. This study has cool skeletal muscle index per BMI plot too, but I don't really understand it. There is a predictive formula, so basically BMI 30 female expected to have 42.3 SMI, BMI 20 female expected to have 37.5 SMI. There must be some way to back calculate from SMI back to predicted kg total of skeletal muscle.

I don't care if ML16 is fat or not.
You can project your own insecurities as much as you like. Knock yourself out.

I am curious what a high % skeletal muscle mass is. The skeletal muscle mass number is what I'm interested in but wasn't obvious, only one number I could find possibly useful because it left 73% of other body composition not described.

Low SMI is <5.7 kg/m2 ... I'm not as easily finding what is a high # is.
I think I worked out that a 60 kg BMI 20 woman (172 cm tall) would be expected to have 12.7 kg of skeletal muscle, or about 21% of her total mass.

An 80 kg 5'8" woman would be expected to have SMI 42.3, which turns into... 14.3 kg of muscle, or 18% of her total mass, but... what is the 95th %centile for the 80 kg 5'8" woman's muscle (and is that 'abnormal').

The muscle mass thing intrigues me because you hear it a lot on MN, people saying they "gained muscle" but I am sure there is a biological limit, women can't gain more than a small kg count of muscle. Probably.

The women in that chart had SMI ranging 30-60. So our hypothetical 80 kg female would be maximum ... 20.3 kg as skeletal muscle mass, or 25% of total mass = skeletal muscle. I think I'm coming up with a natural range of ~10-20 kg as humanly possible range for the 80 kg female, but then there is the 5.7 figure I also found above, which seems crazy low.

If I were ML16 I'd want to know my SMI. They must have calculated it.

I look bloody great at 13.5 stone. I’m 5’10” though.

It depends what you mean by "look OK." I look visibly overweight at that weight, there's no doubt about it. But I think I still look attractive.