Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Gwyneth Paltrow and the skiing incident

387 replies

BringCathyBack · 25/03/2023 07:14

Why is everything about suing these days?
He’s saying she crashed into him whilst being distracted by her kids. So it was an accident then? It’s not like she ploughed into him on purpose or crashed into him whilst drunk or high … it was an accident

She’s saying he crashed into her by accident and is counter suing him.

AIBU to think this whole suing culture for genuine accidents needs to stop?

OP posts:
Thread gallery
12
EmmaDilemma5 · 25/03/2023 16:51

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 25/03/2023 16:50

How did she come across as insincere?

Yawn at the Johnny sycophants. And man with a history of violence and addiction who is on film being abusive. Yeah of course he can’t possibly have been anything but angelic 🙄

Explain the history of violence please?

EmmaDilemma5 · 25/03/2023 16:52

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 25/03/2023 16:50

How did she come across as insincere?

Yawn at the Johnny sycophants. And man with a history of violence and addiction who is on film being abusive. Yeah of course he can’t possibly have been anything but angelic 🙄

And forgetting her history of violence, doesn't seem fair?

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 25/03/2023 16:52

EmmaDilemma5 · 25/03/2023 16:50

How do you know he shoved it, if you had your back to him?

He could have stepped towards the shelf/fridge and his basket swung and hit your bum.

You're looking for problems. And your reaction to him was rude and aggressive.

Aggressive 🤣

Newsflash: not all women simper and giggle and fawn whenever they come into contact with a man. Some of us don’t hate other women and aren’t pick-me’s

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 25/03/2023 16:52

EmmaDilemma5 · 25/03/2023 16:52

And forgetting her history of violence, doesn't seem fair?

What history of violence?

Ktime · 25/03/2023 16:52

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 25/03/2023 16:49

She should buy him one of these

I too have had to weigh up if something crossed the line. A friends husband grabbing my waist to get past me. Or putting his hand just above my arse when having a photo taken etc. women deal with this shit every and I wouldn’t be a cool girl either if a man shoved his basket into my arse in the supermarket

😂 love that.

Exactly, this is a such common experience for women that I question someone like ‘Emma’ who insists it doesn’t happen.

Ktime · 25/03/2023 16:53

NevieSticks · 25/03/2023 16:51

and?

So he’s not an impartial witness.

Mirabai · 25/03/2023 16:53

@EmmaDilemma5

Amber Heard is a poor example. Did you watch her? Her reactions were so far from typical. She came across incredibly insincere and contrived, that's why people critiqued her.

This is a perfect example of what the posters are complain of.

She was obsessively criticised because she was a woman accusing a huge Hollywood star of domestic abuse. What is a typical reaction in that scenario - have you ever seen another such trial?

NevieSticks · 25/03/2023 16:54

Ktime · 25/03/2023 16:35

Aa a woman I’ve had to weigh up whether a man has assaulted me several times.

Most recently in a uncrowded supermarket, a man shoved his basket into my bum. He apologised profusely and I gave him a dead eyes stare whilst my mind raced wondering if he did it deliberately and if the profuse apologies were his MO to avoid blame.

I also wonder the same when a man brushes behind me too closely. I have to assess quickly whether he had room and was it deliberate.

So I can totally understand why GP may have wondered if it was assault.

It's funny that you say this as this exactly happened to me yesterday in a Rituals store. I didn't think for one minute that he was sexually assaulting me - more than he was trying to choose his 8 for 20 pounds items. I must be dozing my way around life.

NevieSticks · 25/03/2023 16:55

Ktime · 25/03/2023 16:53

So he’s not an impartial witness.

Yes we all know that but he is the only witness and not a ski instructor - anyone's. There seemed to be some confusion upthread about who the witness was.

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 25/03/2023 16:56

EmmaDilemma5 · 25/03/2023 16:51

Explain the history of violence please?

Assaulted a security guard
Criminal damage
assualting and threatening photographers
Getting his bodyguards to assault a woman who his attorneys said was asking for it
Hitting a crew member of the City of Lies set.

Was probably all a woman’s fault though

Ktime · 25/03/2023 16:56

EmmaDilemma5 · 25/03/2023 16:50

How do you know he shoved it, if you had your back to him?

He could have stepped towards the shelf/fridge and his basket swung and hit your bum.

You're looking for problems. And your reaction to him was rude and aggressive.

Because we weren’t near a shelf or a fridge. It was in an open area in an uncrowded supermarket, the chances of it being an accident was unlikely. And yes, I did have my back turned which is why when it happened I stared at him whilst I tried to suss out if he was a creep.

My point is that women have to make these judgement calls often.

Mirabai · 25/03/2023 16:57

NevieSticks · 25/03/2023 16:55

Yes we all know that but he is the only witness and not a ski instructor - anyone's. There seemed to be some confusion upthread about who the witness was.

There are two “witnesses”. A ski instructor who didn’t see all of it and Ramon who is mate of Sanderson and GP testified that she did not see at the scene.

EmmaDilemma5 · 25/03/2023 16:58

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 25/03/2023 16:52

Aggressive 🤣

Newsflash: not all women simper and giggle and fawn whenever they come into contact with a man. Some of us don’t hate other women and aren’t pick-me’s

Being bombastic isn't a great response. You come across so intent to blame the man when even the woman didn't see what happened.

Who said giggling?

A simple "no problem" and moving away is suffice.

And before you ask, no, it doesn't need to be with a flick of the hair and a wink 🙄

I can't believe you think staring someone out, because they bumped a basket into you, is an appropriate response. Makes me wonder how some people make friends and get on in life to be completely honest.

Ktime · 25/03/2023 16:59

@EmmaDilemma5

You're looking for problems. And your reaction to him was rude and aggressive.

So a man shoves a basket into my arse, I don’t say a word and just stare at him and I’m the rude and aggressive one? 😂

Emma, you a hilarious cliché.

minou123 · 25/03/2023 16:59

Mirabai · 25/03/2023 16:53

@EmmaDilemma5

Amber Heard is a poor example. Did you watch her? Her reactions were so far from typical. She came across incredibly insincere and contrived, that's why people critiqued her.

This is a perfect example of what the posters are complain of.

She was obsessively criticised because she was a woman accusing a huge Hollywood star of domestic abuse. What is a typical reaction in that scenario - have you ever seen another such trial?

I agree with this.

I think my history on the those threads show I didn't believe AH, but the comments on her hair, dress, facial expressions were wrong.

Unfortunately, I think all women get obsessively criticised. Whereas the men don't.

Women are overly picked on for not "behaving" how someone thinks they should behave.

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 25/03/2023 16:59

EmmaDilemma5 · 25/03/2023 16:58

Being bombastic isn't a great response. You come across so intent to blame the man when even the woman didn't see what happened.

Who said giggling?

A simple "no problem" and moving away is suffice.

And before you ask, no, it doesn't need to be with a flick of the hair and a wink 🙄

I can't believe you think staring someone out, because they bumped a basket into you, is an appropriate response. Makes me wonder how some people make friends and get on in life to be completely honest.

And I can’t believe you think it’s aggressive. “No problem” and move on? But what if it IS a problem?

Seriously this ‘don’t complain to the men’ attitude should have been left behind on the 70’s. It isn’t very easy to shove a basket into someone’s arse.

EmmaDilemma5 · 25/03/2023 17:00

Ktime · 25/03/2023 16:56

Because we weren’t near a shelf or a fridge. It was in an open area in an uncrowded supermarket, the chances of it being an accident was unlikely. And yes, I did have my back turned which is why when it happened I stared at him whilst I tried to suss out if he was a creep.

My point is that women have to make these judgement calls often.

I'm also a woman. And I think you were rude given you have no evidence it was anything but a mistake.

Ktime · 25/03/2023 17:01

EmmaDilemma5 · 25/03/2023 16:58

Being bombastic isn't a great response. You come across so intent to blame the man when even the woman didn't see what happened.

Who said giggling?

A simple "no problem" and moving away is suffice.

And before you ask, no, it doesn't need to be with a flick of the hair and a wink 🙄

I can't believe you think staring someone out, because they bumped a basket into you, is an appropriate response. Makes me wonder how some people make friends and get on in life to be completely honest.

Ah yes, I should have simpered ‘no problem’ at him and giggled, even though he hurt me. Gotcha.

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 25/03/2023 17:02

EmmaDilemma5 · 25/03/2023 17:00

I'm also a woman. And I think you were rude given you have no evidence it was anything but a mistake.

Evidence? It’s isn’t a court of law. OP didn’t like being shoved, a glare is perfectly appropriate. I once stood on a woman’s foot before in a supermarket queue and she swore at me even though I apologised. I didn’t cry and think she was aggressive I thought “fair enough what an annoying thing to happen”

Ktime · 25/03/2023 17:04

EmmaDilemma5 · 25/03/2023 17:00

I'm also a woman. And I think you were rude given you have no evidence it was anything but a mistake.

Yes clearly I should have been fine with a man shoving his basket into my arse and hurting me. My silence was rude, I should have made him feel better. Even though chances are he was a creep.

NevieSticks · 25/03/2023 17:04

Mirabai · 25/03/2023 16:57

There are two “witnesses”. A ski instructor who didn’t see all of it and Ramon who is mate of Sanderson and GP testified that she did not see at the scene.

Which ski instructor?

Mirabai · 25/03/2023 17:05

NevieSticks · 25/03/2023 17:04

Which ski instructor?

Why you go and read up on the case.

Ktime · 25/03/2023 17:05

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 25/03/2023 17:02

Evidence? It’s isn’t a court of law. OP didn’t like being shoved, a glare is perfectly appropriate. I once stood on a woman’s foot before in a supermarket queue and she swore at me even though I apologised. I didn’t cry and think she was aggressive I thought “fair enough what an annoying thing to happen”

Exactly. The concession on my part was staying silent and not accusing him of doing it deliberately. I draw the line at making HIM feel better.

NevieSticks · 25/03/2023 17:07

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 25/03/2023 16:59

And I can’t believe you think it’s aggressive. “No problem” and move on? But what if it IS a problem?

Seriously this ‘don’t complain to the men’ attitude should have been left behind on the 70’s. It isn’t very easy to shove a basket into someone’s arse.

Isn't it? What does it involve? Distance between basket and arse? Speed of thrust? Type of basket - metal or plastic with wheels? Desired depth of impact? 😂😂😂

NevieSticks · 25/03/2023 17:08

Mirabai · 25/03/2023 17:05

Why you go and read up on the case.

Ah you can't answer it ....I actually have watched it all.

Swipe left for the next trending thread