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To not be over what happened to me during covid/lockdowns

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ifyougochasingrabbits · 24/03/2023 09:21

Just a few of the things I went through

Losing my cleaning business i had built up over years overnight due to everyone cancelling us

Being humiliated by the headteacher at DC school shouting at me in front of other parents because I refused to wear a mask outside . My little girl being made to start school late and finish late because I was unable to wear a mask to collect her (school run was all outside I may add and I had no problem wearing masks in shops etc but I drew the line at in the fresh air outside)

watching thousands of pounds of income disappear at an alarming rate. while wondering if we’d still have jobs and be able to keep the house we’d worked our arses off for for years to buy. Going through six months of trauma with H furloughed and depressed because his work could not guarantee he'd still have a job at the end of it. He was on half pay as furlough was only paid up to about 30k salary iirc and if you were on more it was employers discretion to pay the full salary which his work didn't. He was even applying for jobs at supermarkets and delivery driving etc and getting no where despite having a high level job at a major house builder.

Watching selfish morons stockpiling at the very beginning

“Friends” dumping me, one Cos I dared voice out loud that I wasn’t personally scared of covid and was struggling with restrictions and did not agree with them.

Having to deal with the fact that many of my (remaining) friends had views I completely don’t agree with and accepting they probably feel same about me.
And having to cope with the fact they supported restrictions that were destroying our lives and mental health

Having my business absolutely trashed all over social media and being called a dirty bitch and worse by local people. Fake bad reviews etc. The “reason” was they took exception to me saying on a local page post that I didn't believe in masks in school (this was due to my kids really struggling with them) My 14 year old said he agreed and some of them then found him on fb and messaged him insulted his looks and called him stupid and a fucking moron etc. This was actual grown adults.

a random person inboxed me on Facebook due to seeing my business ad and threatened to "smash my face in" because she thinks i was “endangering lives” by working

My neighbour reporting us to the police for having an illegal gathering. This "illegal gathering" was me, my H and our 3 dc having a bbq in the garden. Needless to say we all live together

Being put on medication for panic attacks and anxiety in fact I minimised it to the gp. I was actually suicidal and the only reason I am still here is because of my kids and the fact my husband and parents had the same views as me. But I would secretly hope to die in my sleep and almost every day I would wake up and cry because I was still here.

Watching my 3 Kids completely fall apart due to schools being closed. While not only having to deal with seeing posts all over fb about how well other kids were doing and coping doing all their work, managing great. And knowing some people I care about actually wanted schools shut. One of my kids is still very unwell mentally and it all started with lockdowns

Oh and to add final insult to injury, in November 2021 I had to pay £5700 (which was part credit card and part all of our savings) privately for an operation that should have been freely available on the nhs. But cos covid they could not give me a date and I was getting more and more poorly and could not wait.

I am still angry and maybe I should get over it. But I can't. And There's probably more but these are the stand out moments. I'm doing okay now and I have a new business and I'm doing well, H has a new job as he could not trust his old place after covid. but I've been very low again recently with the anniversary of it all

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Toadintheroll · 24/03/2023 10:30

Fifi1010 · 24/03/2023 10:28

They weren't though this was a lie they peddled. The average death age was 84 as recorded by the ONS which is older than total life expectancy in the UK!!!

I must have imagined it then or worked in a hospital that was an anomaly, weird that. Deaths aren't the only metric by the way, plenty of people who were in ICU have long term effects from it- many of them markedly younger than their 80s.

Untitledsquatboulder · 24/03/2023 10:30

Comedycook · 24/03/2023 10:22

I agree what they did to children was unforgivable....to save an older generation who I tell you now, wouldn't have done the same for them.

I know some younger people died and that's sad but people die all the time of all sorts of things and all sorts of things which could be prevented.

Vast majority of people who died were elderly... unpleasant for their families of course but not so huge a tragedy imo that it was worth throwing kids under the bus.

I tell you now if there was a virus which primarily killed children and elderly people were told to stop going to the golf club or the bingo hall to save them, they'd be up in arms.

So if such a virus did show up do you think the elderly should change their lifestyles or not? If locking down would save 45,000 children dying dying this April should we do it?

Scalottia · 24/03/2023 10:31

JorisBonson · 24/03/2023 09:40

🫤

My thoughts exactly. Stop whining.

KnittingNeedles · 24/03/2023 10:31

Can we please drop the "who suffered the most" Top Trumps game.

Obviously families who were bereaved suffered. But that doesn't mean that other people aren't allowed to say the whole thing was shit for them too.

SVRT19674 · 24/03/2023 10:32

Oh no, another of these, we are so special everyone else is a moron characters. You reap what you sow. Have difficulties empathysing with you, actually. Professional victim.
I feel sorry for your poor kids you have impacted with your dodgy decision making.

Gotanygrapes84 · 24/03/2023 10:32

You brought 85% of those problems upon yourself.

i wouldn’t want to hire you either.

Comedycook · 24/03/2023 10:32

If locking down would save 45,000 children dying dying this April should we do it?

Yes of course.

Untitledsquatboulder · 24/03/2023 10:33

@Comedycook well then.

Sandra1984 · 24/03/2023 10:33

Creampinkblue · 24/03/2023 09:40

We can now see why the OP and her children experienced abuse.

In fairness I used to think the self righteous were only on here but there are a few on my local Facebook group too. Constant ‘there are a group of teenage boys standing outside One Stop’ posts.

it is permitted to be upset at losing one’s business and one’s children being abused. Wearing a mask outside IS the height of stupidity.

I agree, it's a pandemic, people are dying left and right due to a very contagious disease, you're running a cleaning business and posting left and right the non use of masks, that this virus is a hoax and that you refuse to comply with hygiene/health standards putting other's lives in jeopardy. In the meanwhile older folks, grandma and grand pa are dying. For some strange reason you feel the backlash is unjustified. Get a grip.

Fifi1010 · 24/03/2023 10:33

Toadintheroll · 24/03/2023 10:30

I must have imagined it then or worked in a hospital that was an anomaly, weird that. Deaths aren't the only metric by the way, plenty of people who were in ICU have long term effects from it- many of them markedly younger than their 80s.

Well yes as the ONS actually records the data so I would trust statistics. if you worked in ICU obviously you would have younger patients as the very elderly would not be clinically fit enough to undergo mechanical ventilation.

Topee · 24/03/2023 10:34

There was much I disagreed with over the lockdown periods but I voiced my opinions with those closest to me. It was a very divisive time and people’s lived experiences of lockdown and the impact on their families varied enormously. I know some that enjoyed the family time they were afforded and others that lost relatives.

I think it was very unwise as a local business owner to be so vocal about your thoughts.

SweetSakura · 24/03/2023 10:34

COVID showed us how easily nazi Germany happened. People all prepared to snitch on each other and police each other without ever questioning the rationale for the rules. Meanwhile our rulers were throwing parties and having picnics at Barnard castle.

Some of the rules were sensible and well founded, others far less so.

And so many people invented extra, bonkers, rules that made no sense. Our neighbours continued to antibac all their shopping outside on the drive long after their children had gone back to school, for instance.

Masks outside never made sense. Time limits on outdoor exercise didn't make sense (and I ignored that one and the children spent many happy hours outside every day).

So many people were too afraid to hug their relatives, long after we knew it was a respiratory virus. A colleague didn't hug her grandchildren for two years!!

There was a lot of nonsense and people do need to reflect on what they got swept a long with and why they didn't question it. There were good scientific voices out there if you looked for them

KnittingNeedles · 24/03/2023 10:34

posting left and right the non use of masks, that this virus is a hoax and that you refuse to comply with hygiene/health standards putting other's lives in jeopardy.

That is not what the OP said. She said that she personally was not afraid of Covid. That is not the same as believing Covid is a hoax.

Brefugee · 24/03/2023 10:34

Boris being hauled over the coals for a work group meeting outside after working together all day is essential to keep up the narrative that COVID was bad and lockdown justified.

(have not RTFT past this)
that isn't the point. The point was that there were rules and even laws and if the head of govermnent wasn't keeping them, why should anyone else. The question isn't "were the rules good ones" the question is "did he flout them"

louease · 24/03/2023 10:35

nazi germany ... it was only a matter of time before that popped up.

Comedycook · 24/03/2023 10:35

Untitledsquatboulder · 24/03/2023 10:33

@Comedycook well then.

Yes and if a new virus emerged that exclusively caused the death of people over the age of 90, then I'd say don't lock down.

WestwardHo1 · 24/03/2023 10:35

SweetSakura · 24/03/2023 10:34

COVID showed us how easily nazi Germany happened. People all prepared to snitch on each other and police each other without ever questioning the rationale for the rules. Meanwhile our rulers were throwing parties and having picnics at Barnard castle.

Some of the rules were sensible and well founded, others far less so.

And so many people invented extra, bonkers, rules that made no sense. Our neighbours continued to antibac all their shopping outside on the drive long after their children had gone back to school, for instance.

Masks outside never made sense. Time limits on outdoor exercise didn't make sense (and I ignored that one and the children spent many happy hours outside every day).

So many people were too afraid to hug their relatives, long after we knew it was a respiratory virus. A colleague didn't hug her grandchildren for two years!!

There was a lot of nonsense and people do need to reflect on what they got swept a long with and why they didn't question it. There were good scientific voices out there if you looked for them

Good post.

Sassyfox · 24/03/2023 10:36

Quite a few of your issues were self inflicted and it sounds like you were being a bit of a martyr.

The worst one was that you made your child start and finish late by refusing to follow the rules even though everyone else managed to follow them and your choices had a big impact on your poor daughter.

I think wearing a mask outdoors is stupid but if it meant my child going to school on time then I wouldn’t have thought twice about it.

There are always idiots on the internet and although their behaviour shouldn’t be excused, you should not have been posting on there and not expecting a backlash.

If I ran a business which I advertised online the most stupid thing I could do would be to write controversial stuff, knowing it’s going to impact my business.

To seem to be mad at the world when actually you are the one who was to blame.

Instead of blaming everyone else, you need to accept that you should have handled things differently and that you are to blame.
Once you have done this then you can finally move on and find happiness in the present and look to the future.

Topseyt123 · 24/03/2023 10:36

I fully agree with much of what OP has said, and I empathise.

OP, I am so sorry you went through all of that. Lockdown was shit for many of us, and beyond the first few weeks of it when we knew much less about what we were dealing with, I'm not sure it was necessary or of any benefit at all.

Being asked to wear masks outside was utterly ridiculous. I never did.

I hope your new business keeps doing well and your kids get happier.

Comedycook · 24/03/2023 10:37

louease · 24/03/2023 10:35

nazi germany ... it was only a matter of time before that popped up.

Because it's actually really important to see how people can be persuaded to do things they don't actually agree with

WestwardHo1 · 24/03/2023 10:38

louease · 24/03/2023 10:35

nazi germany ... it was only a matter of time before that popped up.

History teaches us things. That's why we study it.

It seems that people would rather get offended by the insinuation rather than confront the fact that when a few realities comes together, and a ruler/ruling class come along to exploit them, a hitherto civilised "democratic" nation can lose its fucking mind.

BadjaLol · 24/03/2023 10:38

Bearpawk · 24/03/2023 10:29

I see your points but half of your post is about your decisions and reactions - you chose to die on those hills and impact your child's education. I would have picked my battles tbh.

Losing your business and money worries are very traumatic though.

This exactly.

Merlinsbeard83 · 24/03/2023 10:38

Most people have huge negative impacts from covid/lockdowns . Some of your problems could of been avoided if you avoided social media . And a mask for 2 minutes whist dropping and picking your kid up would of made your life simpler. Lots of daft rules around but sometimes it's picking your battles . That one was not worth the stress.

Geneticsbunny · 24/03/2023 10:39

@alloalloallo thanks. Unmunsnetty hug back at you.

Don't know about you but every time I explain to anyone it just sounds so ridiculous that I almost feel like I have made it up!

Tomatoblush · 24/03/2023 10:40

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