To not be over what happened to me during covid/lockdowns

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Just a few of the things I went through

Losing my cleaning business i had built up over years overnight due to everyone cancelling us

Being humiliated by the headteacher at DC school shouting at me in front of other parents because I refused to wear a mask outside . My little girl being made to start school late and finish late because I was unable to wear a mask to collect her (school run was all outside I may add and I had no problem wearing masks in shops etc but I drew the line at in the fresh air outside)

watching thousands of pounds of income disappear at an alarming rate. while wondering if we’d still have jobs and be able to keep the house we’d worked our arses off for for years to buy. Going through six months of trauma with H furloughed and depressed because his work could not guarantee he'd still have a job at the end of it. He was on half pay as furlough was only paid up to about 30k salary iirc and if you were on more it was employers discretion to pay the full salary which his work didn't. He was even applying for jobs at supermarkets and delivery driving etc and getting no where despite having a high level job at a major house builder.

Watching selfish morons stockpiling at the very beginning

“Friends” dumping me, one Cos I dared voice out loud that I wasn’t personally scared of covid and was struggling with restrictions and did not agree with them.

Having to deal with the fact that many of my (remaining) friends had views I completely don’t agree with and accepting they probably feel same about me.
And having to cope with the fact they supported restrictions that were destroying our lives and mental health

Having my business absolutely trashed all over social media and being called a dirty bitch and worse by local people. Fake bad reviews etc. The “reason” was they took exception to me saying on a local page post that I didn't believe in masks in school (this was due to my kids really struggling with them) My 14 year old said he agreed and some of them then found him on fb and messaged him insulted his looks and called him stupid and a fucking moron etc. This was actual grown adults.

a random person inboxed me on Facebook due to seeing my business ad and threatened to "smash my face in" because she thinks i was “endangering lives” by working

My neighbour reporting us to the police for having an illegal gathering. This "illegal gathering" was me, my H and our 3 dc having a bbq in the garden. Needless to say we all live together

Being put on medication for panic attacks and anxiety in fact I minimised it to the gp. I was actually suicidal and the only reason I am still here is because of my kids and the fact my husband and parents had the same views as me. But I would secretly hope to die in my sleep and almost every day I would wake up and cry because I was still here.

Watching my 3 Kids completely fall apart due to schools being closed. While not only having to deal with seeing posts all over fb about how well other kids were doing and coping doing all their work, managing great. And knowing some people I care about actually wanted schools shut. One of my kids is still very unwell mentally and it all started with lockdowns

Oh and to add final insult to injury, in November 2021 I had to pay £5700 (which was part credit card and part all of our savings) privately for an operation that should have been freely available on the nhs. But cos covid they could not give me a date and I was getting more and more poorly and could not wait.

I am still angry and maybe I should get over it. But I can't. And There's probably more but these are the stand out moments. I'm doing okay now and I have a new business and I'm doing well, H has a new job as he could not trust his old place after covid. but I've been very low again recently with the anniversary of it all

Well when you've got the likes of Neil Ferguson and his dodgy modelling and 'Indy' Sage and their constant shouting for lockdown can you blame people for questioning? And questioning having freedoms taken away is no bad thing, especially for later lockdowns.

No, it wasn't, but honestly, if a child's life is that bad, then six weeks of being at home isn't the cause of the misery, is it?

No, but it gave abusive parents the perfect opportunity abuse their children without the usual safety nets.

This is what I can't believe people think is okay !!

And again the threat of assault I received was not even for my opinion-
It was because I was working during lockdown despite my work being "allowed"

Good lord, barbaric? No need to be so dramatic.

I disagree that strict lengthy lockdowns were necessary. I don’t think children staying indoors for 6 weeks ultimately saved loads of lives versus some more gentle methods. So we’re never going to agree.

I think they were a disproportionate response and caused huge harm. That harm will not be fully realised for many years.

You seem completely brainwashed by all the propaganda which, given what we know now is utterly bizarre.

People did not make ‘small sacrifices’ FFS - more minimising.

Exactly. For some reason certain posters can’t see build their own lovely lockdown bubble

Beyond

@RatesWillRise

"I think you need to stop seeing things as so black and white. There is a huge middle ground and big grey area. Everyone’s ‘version’ of the pandemic was different. No two people had exactly the same theories or behaviour. If people got less angry, and listened to each other’s rationale without getting abusive, then this whole damn thing might have been easier.

But people on all sides got so upset and angry that there was no meeting in the middle and family and friend relationships ended. That’s a real shame, don’t you think.

It is worrying that you still seem as angry as in 2020. If I think about schools, I can get a bit like that so I just don’t let myself dwell. Hope the therapy works and you can think about the future. For the sake of you and your kids. Sounds like your business is going well so that’s a positive surely. Good luck."

Can't quote but what you said above makes
sense 👆 it's a good post and I genuinely mean that. And you've disagreed with me without resorting to personal attacks which is appreciated and says a lot about you (in a good way)

And thanks for the good luck wishes i appreciate that ...I genuinely love my work and I hope it continues to go well and I hope you will be okay too xx 💐

I didn't say questioning. I said ignoring.

It's entirely reasonable for a person to ask "why? what's your evidence? can you explain this to me?".

Questioning is good. Asking why things happened the way they did is important. Some of the things that went on in terms of corruption and hypocrisy should never be allowed to happen again. Ignoring expert opinions in relevant areas doesn't get you answers though; people might as well just shout "I didn't like it!" into an echo chamber.

If the worst things that happened to someone during the pandemic were that they had to stay indoors a lot and people were mean to them on the internet, well, that sounds like a much better deal than a lot of folk got.

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I do think it matters to consider what happened as we can learn from it. I hope that we never have another pandemic - but we could have other crisis. I think the lack of questioning meant that decision were not challenged, I accept we all have different views but the price of the lockdowns in my view was too high - I thought so a the time and I believe many did too but the whole approach meant that people who dissented were silenced. In a future crisis we need to ensure government provides the evidence and the decisions scrutinised

What’s my agenda? Not wanting children to be imprisoned in their houses for 6 weeks?

Honestly the fact that you are defending and minimising the impact of this is shameful. Imagine explaining this to your grandchildren?

TBH much of the situations you have listed, are similar to ours.
We lost a business that we were making £150k a year in. We had a house deposit saved up, which then went on our living expenses. Business totally gone, and possibly the opportunity to ever buy a home.
My DD has extreme anxiety after covid, still not getting much better, and I needed to pay privately for an operation I should have had on the NHS.
I've lost friends because they didn't agree with my viewpoint on covid, my vies was, just do what I can to keep the vulnerable (including myself) safe. No negativity to anyone else, but my view was apparently allowing them to be victimised by the law makers because I was a sheep.

But you have to move on. Make the best out of life that you can.

And you are so short sighted that you can't see that majority of decent parents will have stepped up in the circumstances. The tragic circumstances of some children's home lives were probably and regrettably a ongoing situation prior to Covid.

The situation was not one that anyone wanted! But "barbaric" is children who don't have access to education at all. Children who never have enough to eat, or access to running water. Children at risk in warzones, whose parents have been killed or maimed. Children who are orphans in a war situation. To suggest that cooping up children who mostly and normally have at least their basic needs met, were treated in a manner that was "barbaric" is frankly insulting towards those for whom it is a way of life.

So FFS yourself - how many pandemics do you have experience of???!

Precisely...!

I'm pretty sure that people in the past, present and future lose civil liberties but they don't sit whinging about it.

That's easy to say with the benefit of hindsight though.

Of course there are lessons that could and should be learned. Now is the time to challenge decisions and actions, not when we were facing a world crisis that none of us could have begun to imagine.

I have asked and not had a reply. What did you superior rebels achieve? Nothing. Maybe a few more people died when the ignorant deniers carried on regardless and defied the advice and instructions given. I wouldn't want that on my conscience.

You're right it does happen, but how many extra deaths would you have been okay with? Because that's really what people are arguing in favour of isn't it?

God I'm so sorry to read this 💐💐💐💐

I hope things improve x

There are many, many children for whom school is a safety net- there are checks on them. It is so short sighted of you not to realise that when you take that safety net away then they are open to abuse/neglect.

Do you really think the majority of parents are decent parents? You have no idea.

Yes cases of abuse/neglect and domestic violence soared in lockdown. How can you not know this? Are you in denial?

So fucking scary that we equate illness with morality.

Definitely

Completely agree.

What is blocking your understanding of the facts prevalent at the time - the experts didn't know this

I think in a future crisis people will not be as willing to follow blindly and accept what is said. I think this is a good thing

The last sentence paragraph makes a lot of assumptions about the behaviour of those who question - many wanted to questioned and were silence and followed the guidelines