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To not be over what happened to me during covid/lockdowns

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ifyougochasingrabbits · 24/03/2023 09:21

Just a few of the things I went through

Losing my cleaning business i had built up over years overnight due to everyone cancelling us

Being humiliated by the headteacher at DC school shouting at me in front of other parents because I refused to wear a mask outside . My little girl being made to start school late and finish late because I was unable to wear a mask to collect her (school run was all outside I may add and I had no problem wearing masks in shops etc but I drew the line at in the fresh air outside)

watching thousands of pounds of income disappear at an alarming rate. while wondering if we’d still have jobs and be able to keep the house we’d worked our arses off for for years to buy. Going through six months of trauma with H furloughed and depressed because his work could not guarantee he'd still have a job at the end of it. He was on half pay as furlough was only paid up to about 30k salary iirc and if you were on more it was employers discretion to pay the full salary which his work didn't. He was even applying for jobs at supermarkets and delivery driving etc and getting no where despite having a high level job at a major house builder.

Watching selfish morons stockpiling at the very beginning

“Friends” dumping me, one Cos I dared voice out loud that I wasn’t personally scared of covid and was struggling with restrictions and did not agree with them.

Having to deal with the fact that many of my (remaining) friends had views I completely don’t agree with and accepting they probably feel same about me.
And having to cope with the fact they supported restrictions that were destroying our lives and mental health

Having my business absolutely trashed all over social media and being called a dirty bitch and worse by local people. Fake bad reviews etc. The “reason” was they took exception to me saying on a local page post that I didn't believe in masks in school (this was due to my kids really struggling with them) My 14 year old said he agreed and some of them then found him on fb and messaged him insulted his looks and called him stupid and a fucking moron etc. This was actual grown adults.

a random person inboxed me on Facebook due to seeing my business ad and threatened to "smash my face in" because she thinks i was “endangering lives” by working

My neighbour reporting us to the police for having an illegal gathering. This "illegal gathering" was me, my H and our 3 dc having a bbq in the garden. Needless to say we all live together

Being put on medication for panic attacks and anxiety in fact I minimised it to the gp. I was actually suicidal and the only reason I am still here is because of my kids and the fact my husband and parents had the same views as me. But I would secretly hope to die in my sleep and almost every day I would wake up and cry because I was still here.

Watching my 3 Kids completely fall apart due to schools being closed. While not only having to deal with seeing posts all over fb about how well other kids were doing and coping doing all their work, managing great. And knowing some people I care about actually wanted schools shut. One of my kids is still very unwell mentally and it all started with lockdowns

Oh and to add final insult to injury, in November 2021 I had to pay £5700 (which was part credit card and part all of our savings) privately for an operation that should have been freely available on the nhs. But cos covid they could not give me a date and I was getting more and more poorly and could not wait.

I am still angry and maybe I should get over it. But I can't. And There's probably more but these are the stand out moments. I'm doing okay now and I have a new business and I'm doing well, H has a new job as he could not trust his old place after covid. but I've been very low again recently with the anniversary of it all

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RatesWillRise · 26/03/2023 19:34

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 26/03/2023 19:15

Because it wasn't the time to be "questioning" anything. Nobody - not even those of you who think you were somehow superior and knew better - knew what the entire world was being faced with. Better to err on the side of caution, you know, the greater good of the greatest number.

I'm sorry but if the government is telling me who I can see, who I can have in my own home, prevent DH from working and do their best to destroy the hospitality industry then I will fucking question it. What has come to light since has made the restrictions seem even worse.

Oh and before anyone has a go I mainly followed the rules despite thinking some were ridiculous. I wore a mask when I had to, although I never wore one outside (I didn't wear one in my own home despite one batshit poster telling me I would if I really loved DH!).

Some of the comments on this thread remind me of 2020, they are vile. I'm not saying I agree with OP about everything, I don't, but I really hoped we'd got past the throwing insults at anyone who questions anything stage but clearly not.

‘I really hoped we'd got past the throwing insults at anyone who questions anything stage but clearly not.’

Have you seen how much OP has been insulting others here too? She could have chosen to rise above it but didn’t. Insults weren’t helpful during the pandemic and there is little gain by insulting others now.

adriftinadenofvipers · 26/03/2023 19:36

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 26/03/2023 19:15

Because it wasn't the time to be "questioning" anything. Nobody - not even those of you who think you were somehow superior and knew better - knew what the entire world was being faced with. Better to err on the side of caution, you know, the greater good of the greatest number.

I'm sorry but if the government is telling me who I can see, who I can have in my own home, prevent DH from working and do their best to destroy the hospitality industry then I will fucking question it. What has come to light since has made the restrictions seem even worse.

Oh and before anyone has a go I mainly followed the rules despite thinking some were ridiculous. I wore a mask when I had to, although I never wore one outside (I didn't wear one in my own home despite one batshit poster telling me I would if I really loved DH!).

Some of the comments on this thread remind me of 2020, they are vile. I'm not saying I agree with OP about everything, I don't, but I really hoped we'd got past the throwing insults at anyone who questions anything stage but clearly not.

We were all entitled to think some of the rules were ridiculous.

What I can't understand is how some people weren't willing to accept the privations put in place over a period of time while science and medicine tried desperately to win the race to treat and prevent the spread of the virus. It actually just blew my mind and still does. You can as you so eloquently put it, "fucking question" all you want, but nobody had the answers.

My family didn't get through it unscathed either - doubt many did tbh - but most right thinking people were prepared to accept it until we knew more about what we were dealing with.

I didn't have anyone in my home, or visit anyone else's - not because I was a "sheep" (I like sheep actually) not because the government said I couldn't but because I would never have forgiven myself if I'd unwittingly spread it and caused serious illness or death to someone I cared about. Now if that's being a 'sheep', then Bah!!

It's not even as if the UK was the only country deploying restrictions!!

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 26/03/2023 19:38

@RatesWillRise I was including the OP in that. I'm not convinced that some of the posters on this thread aren't the particularly nasty ones from a few years ago under new names.

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 26/03/2023 19:39

Delatron · 26/03/2023 15:02

Defend it all you like. The Spanish government should hang their heads in shame. Thank goodness no other country adopted such an idiotic, damaging policy.

It wasn’t ‘a few weeks. It was 6 weeks. That’s a bloody long time to keep kids inside a flat. To mainly protect the elderly.

I know how bad it was in Italy. I’m disputing the fact that long, drawn out lockdowns were

necessary when other measures could have been deployed. See Sweden.

I agree. It’s a whole summer holidays of locking children indoors. Barbaric. Especially given NO evidence that children would be superspreaders that must be the ones to be kept indoors.

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 26/03/2023 19:40

OneTC · 26/03/2023 15:07

What death rates would people who thought lockdowns were excessive be happy with just out of interest?

Death happens. It’s a fact of life. Why does no one get histrionic about the shocking amount t of flu deaths we have EVERY winger (answer: because we are not told to be scared)

adriftinadenofvipers · 26/03/2023 19:43

RatesWillRise · 26/03/2023 19:34

‘I really hoped we'd got past the throwing insults at anyone who questions anything stage but clearly not.’

Have you seen how much OP has been insulting others here too? She could have chosen to rise above it but didn’t. Insults weren’t helpful during the pandemic and there is little gain by insulting others now.

100% this.

Insults were flung - and worse - on both sides. I know decent people who argued with the CTs who even lost their jobs as a result of the vicious, evil campaigns run against them by these people. Social media sites actually specifically set up for the purpose of trashing the individual's reputation.

You can't express extreme views publicly without running the risk of it coming back to bite you on the ass. All the more so if you also run a business. It's one of the massive downsides of social media. You have to use a little bit of common sense.

I'm not a scientist or an epidemiologist, but I have the wit to accept expert views on something I have little knowledge of.

adriftinadenofvipers · 26/03/2023 19:45

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 26/03/2023 19:40

Death happens. It’s a fact of life. Why does no one get histrionic about the shocking amount t of flu deaths we have EVERY winger (answer: because we are not told to be scared)

Not that old chestnut. Again.

Surely mass and untimely deaths is surely a cause for concern, at a bare minimum?!

Covidia · 26/03/2023 19:46

lieselotte · 26/03/2023 12:37

Yes but there was never any need for a lot of the ridiculous restrictions.

Whatever people say, the chances of getting it outside were very small indeed. There was no need to ban people from meeting outside. Or exercising with a friend. Or buying "non-essentials" in supermarkets. Or indeed driving for exercise or being more than a certain distance from home (Scotland, Wales, Ireland).

And of course there could have been a rota for schools but the stupid government said no. The thing that absolutely amazed me was that most kids weren't back in school after May half term in England.

Omg… the need was not just because of the threat posed by the virus as it stood at any given point but also because of potential variants.

For example looking at the expected trajectory of evolution in July 2021 there was still a 20% chance of the virus evolving substantially higher fatality rate say 10 - 20%, which when coupled with the ease of transmission would have been catastrophic. Think what went on with people and loo rolls when fatality was 1-2%… it would have been anarchy.

Restrictions were only lifted when you had 90% vaccination rate, and ability to regig and deploy it again at speed in the event of any major viral change.

We still kept back from certain family who were anti vax because all of us are vulnerable. Eventually they did get jabbed to go to Benidorm or something 🙄 no thought of protecting anyone.

As already said we lost 2 due to others not following restrictions (breaking rules on mixing/not getting jabbed) and saw another in intensive care due to a blooming delivery driver who continued to work when he had covid! Ludicrous all these people saying there was no point to restrictions, makes me so cross.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 26/03/2023 19:47

What I can't understand is how some people weren't willing to accept the privations put in place over a period of time while science and medicine tried desperately to win the race to treat and prevent the spread of the virus. It actually just blew my mind and still does. You can as you so eloquently put it, "fucking question" all you want, but nobody had the answers.

I did at first but as time when on that was when I started to question it. Later lockdowns were OTT.

I didn't have anyone in my home, or visit anyone else's - not because I was a "sheep" (I like sheep actually) not because the government said I couldn't but because I would never have forgiven myself if I'd unwittingly spread it and caused serious illness or death to someone I cared about. Now if that's being a 'sheep', then Bah!!

I did go in my Uncle's home and he would have been welcome in mine. He asked me in and I went. I wasn't going anywhere so there was minimal risk. My view was that he was an adult with capacity to make his own choices.

lazycats · 26/03/2023 19:47

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 26/03/2023 19:40

Death happens. It’s a fact of life. Why does no one get histrionic about the shocking amount t of flu deaths we have EVERY winger (answer: because we are not told to be scared)

That’s not comparing like with like. This was a novel virus, and people were scared before the government told them to be.

pixie5121 · 26/03/2023 19:51

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adriftinadenofvipers · 26/03/2023 19:51

sleepwouldbenice · 26/03/2023 19:30

Hospital comments are still rubbish
Some wards and clinics or elective services were closed or quieter as their staff were diverted to cope with covid or had to pause/stop or slow down or operate differently because of covid restrictions ( eg breast clinic, opthalmology etc)

But general wards were at breaking points regularly and most wards became covid wards

And yes I work with vulnerable people with close and ongoing connections to acute general nhs hospital care so I do have a clue. Jesus some of you really live in a distorted world

They distort it deliberately to suit their own twisted agenda, and preen themselves as being smarter than the masses.

I had a bowel procedure carried out on a Friday in hospital. All the medical and support staff were so lovely, reassuring, cheerful and caring. Couldn't praise them highly enough. I was lucky to get it done, and they were afraid, because their service was closing down that day and from the following Monday they were all being redeployed to Covid wards.

They're the people I admire and respect, not some cranks who actually know nothing and think they know everything. Dangerous individuals...

kittensinthekitchen · 26/03/2023 19:54

OP: "I cry because people were mean to me on the internet" (paraphrased)

Also OP: "absolute fucking moronic sheep"
"hysterical dick heads"
"sad twats"
"selfish morons"
"bollox"
"ridiculous"
"bullshit"
"fucking weird freak"
"batshit"
"mumsnet snobs"
"pathetic"
"lockdown zealots"
"sad and pathetic"
"histrionic fool"
"arsehole"

Pleasepleasenomorecocomelon · 26/03/2023 19:59

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 26/03/2023 19:39

I agree. It’s a whole summer holidays of locking children indoors. Barbaric. Especially given NO evidence that children would be superspreaders that must be the ones to be kept indoors.

I get it could be barbaric if the parents are utterly incapable or abusive but surely any half decent parent should be capable of making six weeks indoors OK. We had facetime, omline deliveries, TV, Internet ect. At the time we didn't know much about the virus, I would personally much rather have a temporarily bored DC than a dead or orphaned one.

adriftinadenofvipers · 26/03/2023 20:00

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Very well said.

Certainly, to begin with, Covid brought us closer in our family unit. We hadn't really ever spent so much time together. The weather was lovely. We made the most of it outdoors, and indoors we played card games and Monopoly, all stuff we hadn't done since the kids had grown into adults.

The majority of people would have had some sort of outdoor access surely, at least some of the time?

I know if my children had been small, we'd have treated it as some sort of adventure, not that they were incarcerated in misery and fear for 6 weeks.

sleepwouldbenice · 26/03/2023 20:04

kittensinthekitchen · 26/03/2023 19:54

OP: "I cry because people were mean to me on the internet" (paraphrased)

Also OP: "absolute fucking moronic sheep"
"hysterical dick heads"
"sad twats"
"selfish morons"
"bollox"
"ridiculous"
"bullshit"
"fucking weird freak"
"batshit"
"mumsnet snobs"
"pathetic"
"lockdown zealots"
"sad and pathetic"
"histrionic fool"
"arsehole"

Yep sums it up

Delatron · 26/03/2023 20:17

adriftinadenofvipers · 26/03/2023 20:00

Very well said.

Certainly, to begin with, Covid brought us closer in our family unit. We hadn't really ever spent so much time together. The weather was lovely. We made the most of it outdoors, and indoors we played card games and Monopoly, all stuff we hadn't done since the kids had grown into adults.

The majority of people would have had some sort of outdoor access surely, at least some of the time?

I know if my children had been small, we'd have treated it as some sort of adventure, not that they were incarcerated in misery and fear for 6 weeks.

So no seeing friends, no sports clubs. No socialising, no education, very little fresh air. And no not every child had lovely, engaging parents who could spend all day with them - baking and doing PE. So shortsighted that you can’t see that many, many children will have suffered in those circumstances.

Delatron · 26/03/2023 20:18

And for what? When we know they virus doesn’t spread outdoors. What a sacrifice those children made. For no reason.

Maggie178 · 26/03/2023 20:21

COVID was shit all round. My husband couldn't get a gps appointment for months - turned out he had end stage kidney failure had to start dialysis straight away and needed a transplant. He went from being main bread winner to getting £95 a week statutory sick. His transplant got postponed as the COVID vaccine dropped his platelets to a dangerous level. One of my friends attempted suicide then ended up in prison. I was working in the NHS during COVID which was a nightmare. Sorry you had a shit time. EVERYONE DID. I don't see the point in being bitter over it. Enjoy life now

pixie5121 · 26/03/2023 20:28

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montysma1 · 26/03/2023 20:37

I wonder if all the bereaved people are "over COVID" yet.
Get a grip.

Delatron · 26/03/2023 20:38

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It’s lacking in such empathy to see that it wasn’t all bloody banana bread and monopoly for many children.

I won’t apologise for thinking that we treated children appallingly in the pandemic. And do you know what? My children were fine. We had a big garden, I was here, we exercised and had a great time - they are very resilient thank you very much. But I’m not so lacking in empathy to realise many, many children were not ok. Shame you don’t have that empathy- that’s a skill I hope I’ve passed on to my children.

JenniferBooth · 26/03/2023 20:39

@Delatron Yet on the Emergency Alerts thread its "please think of the kids"

Scirocco · 26/03/2023 20:50

sleepwouldbenice · 26/03/2023 17:53

Exactly
But the OP has found her people
The ones who blame others and take little responsibility but think that means they are "critical thinkers"

If a mechanic told me my car needed repairs or it was at risk of breaking down, and I ignored them, I'd be considered a bit if an idiot.

But apparently ignoring the advice of medical professionals and virology experts, who were saying "you might want to do this somewhat inconvenient thing to, you know, not die or have people you love die"... That makes someone a "critical thinker".

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