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To not be over what happened to me during covid/lockdowns

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ifyougochasingrabbits · 24/03/2023 09:21

Just a few of the things I went through

Losing my cleaning business i had built up over years overnight due to everyone cancelling us

Being humiliated by the headteacher at DC school shouting at me in front of other parents because I refused to wear a mask outside . My little girl being made to start school late and finish late because I was unable to wear a mask to collect her (school run was all outside I may add and I had no problem wearing masks in shops etc but I drew the line at in the fresh air outside)

watching thousands of pounds of income disappear at an alarming rate. while wondering if we’d still have jobs and be able to keep the house we’d worked our arses off for for years to buy. Going through six months of trauma with H furloughed and depressed because his work could not guarantee he'd still have a job at the end of it. He was on half pay as furlough was only paid up to about 30k salary iirc and if you were on more it was employers discretion to pay the full salary which his work didn't. He was even applying for jobs at supermarkets and delivery driving etc and getting no where despite having a high level job at a major house builder.

Watching selfish morons stockpiling at the very beginning

“Friends” dumping me, one Cos I dared voice out loud that I wasn’t personally scared of covid and was struggling with restrictions and did not agree with them.

Having to deal with the fact that many of my (remaining) friends had views I completely don’t agree with and accepting they probably feel same about me.
And having to cope with the fact they supported restrictions that were destroying our lives and mental health

Having my business absolutely trashed all over social media and being called a dirty bitch and worse by local people. Fake bad reviews etc. The “reason” was they took exception to me saying on a local page post that I didn't believe in masks in school (this was due to my kids really struggling with them) My 14 year old said he agreed and some of them then found him on fb and messaged him insulted his looks and called him stupid and a fucking moron etc. This was actual grown adults.

a random person inboxed me on Facebook due to seeing my business ad and threatened to "smash my face in" because she thinks i was “endangering lives” by working

My neighbour reporting us to the police for having an illegal gathering. This "illegal gathering" was me, my H and our 3 dc having a bbq in the garden. Needless to say we all live together

Being put on medication for panic attacks and anxiety in fact I minimised it to the gp. I was actually suicidal and the only reason I am still here is because of my kids and the fact my husband and parents had the same views as me. But I would secretly hope to die in my sleep and almost every day I would wake up and cry because I was still here.

Watching my 3 Kids completely fall apart due to schools being closed. While not only having to deal with seeing posts all over fb about how well other kids were doing and coping doing all their work, managing great. And knowing some people I care about actually wanted schools shut. One of my kids is still very unwell mentally and it all started with lockdowns

Oh and to add final insult to injury, in November 2021 I had to pay £5700 (which was part credit card and part all of our savings) privately for an operation that should have been freely available on the nhs. But cos covid they could not give me a date and I was getting more and more poorly and could not wait.

I am still angry and maybe I should get over it. But I can't. And There's probably more but these are the stand out moments. I'm doing okay now and I have a new business and I'm doing well, H has a new job as he could not trust his old place after covid. but I've been very low again recently with the anniversary of it all

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Ludo19 · 26/03/2023 18:48

TinaYouFatLard · 24/03/2023 10:21

I can’t believe how many people will happily admit to following nonsensical rules just for an easy life or to appease the mob. Thank god for the minority who are willing to stand up and say no.

Yeah and I'll never be part of a dictatorship.

Beneficialchampion2 · 26/03/2023 18:53

Pity party

Do you always mope around expecting folk to feel sorry for you?

Most of this is self Inflicted

adriftinadenofvipers · 26/03/2023 18:54

RatesWillRise · 26/03/2023 18:40

You aren’t coming across very well here.

It was terrible to threaten you with violence. Unacceptable. It was not nice of the shopkeeper to shout at your daughter. I abhor cyber bullying so the treatment of your son was dreadful. It’s all inexcusable.

It is also not particularly kind to mock those who were more scared than you. Who felt safer wearing masks. Get annoyed by the sanctimonious neighbour-reporters, yes. But some people saw the restrictions around the world and felt that they should comply and get on with life that way, wearing masks, going along with the rules for an ‘easier’ life, maybe a safer one. I don’t know why you need to call them all sheep and other names.

I did not agree with people at both extremes (not at all) but kept my mouth shut and my judgements to myself. Took a deep breath and kept quiet. Friendships intact. No regrets.

And remember, you don’t know everyone’s reasons. I wore a mask outside in August in Spain in august 2020. I thought it was ridiculous. Esp in 34C. But I went along with it as after six months working on the wards, and my kids stressed from homeschooling, I wanted a family holiday in the sun. Why does my mask wearing bother you quite so much?

Which is exactly what the majority of sensible people did.

But no, the OP was one of the terribly entitled people who mocked, criticised and abused on social media. The consequences were totally on you. If you had kept your opinions to yourself, then maybe people wouldn't have got angry. No child should have been bullied online, but maybe said 14 year old would have been better advised to avoid the controversy rather than encouraged to seek it by his mother.

The very idea of you encouraging a 9 year old to kick out against school rules, whether you liked them or not, is actually abhorrent. She is actually a cheeky madam - the tape had sod all effect on her!! How many other school rules do you enable her to break?

I might think I should be able to have a drink and drive (caveat, of course I don't!!) It doesn't mean I can!

You all sound deeply unpleasant. Not to mention thick - calling people sheep!!! So infantile. When all you were was a pack of lemmings.

adriftinadenofvipers · 26/03/2023 18:56

Ludo19 · 26/03/2023 18:48

Yeah and I'll never be part of a dictatorship.

"Dictatorship" - wise up!! You're hardly in China or North Korea. What a foolish, ignorant comment!

As for your "minority" - you can all eff right off. What exactly did your 'rebellion' achieve? Fuck all.

RatesWillRise · 26/03/2023 18:56

adriftinadenofvipers · 26/03/2023 18:54

Which is exactly what the majority of sensible people did.

But no, the OP was one of the terribly entitled people who mocked, criticised and abused on social media. The consequences were totally on you. If you had kept your opinions to yourself, then maybe people wouldn't have got angry. No child should have been bullied online, but maybe said 14 year old would have been better advised to avoid the controversy rather than encouraged to seek it by his mother.

The very idea of you encouraging a 9 year old to kick out against school rules, whether you liked them or not, is actually abhorrent. She is actually a cheeky madam - the tape had sod all effect on her!! How many other school rules do you enable her to break?

I might think I should be able to have a drink and drive (caveat, of course I don't!!) It doesn't mean I can!

You all sound deeply unpleasant. Not to mention thick - calling people sheep!!! So infantile. When all you were was a pack of lemmings.

Yes I don’t think there is any justification in encouraging a nine year old to deface school property. Even less take pride in it. It’s really unfair on a child to make them think antisocial behaviour is a positive.

ilovesooty · 26/03/2023 18:58

If you're the kind of person who takes pleasure from winding others up I wonder what you're hoping for from therapy?

Ludo19 · 26/03/2023 19:00

adriftinadenofvipers · 26/03/2023 18:56

"Dictatorship" - wise up!! You're hardly in China or North Korea. What a foolish, ignorant comment!

As for your "minority" - you can all eff right off. What exactly did your 'rebellion' achieve? Fuck all.

Oh you're very snappy eh.

That was my response to a PP not to incite your bile love.

I'm definitely not thick to question.

You're very aggressive......not a nice look.

adriftinadenofvipers · 26/03/2023 19:02

ifyougochasingrabbits · 26/03/2023 15:36

What I struggle with still is not so much "arguments on social media" 🙄

Even ignoring the bastard adults who abused my kid online for expressing his opinion (as at least that wasn't violent threats) I got an inbox from a complete random in response to a perfectly legitimate FB business ad when I was ALLOWED to work, threatening to smash my face in

When I looked on the profile the person was local to me. and quite honestly for a while I felt scared when I went out just in case cos people really were that bat shit crazy I would not put it past someone .

Is this okay ???? THIS HAPPENED and some people are ignoring / and / or minimising it as an "online argument" when it wasn't anything like that ????

Imagine seeing an ad on Facebook then inboxing the person threatening violence?? It's fucked 🤦‍♀️

Top tip - when running a business that relies on people in your locality supporting it, the wise person would be well advised to keep their extreme views to themselves. Not supporting their behaviour but you brought it on yourself. Social media can be very anti-social.

And even when you saw the way the tide was turning against you, you still didn't have the self awareness to shut up. It was all too apparent that emotions were running high and people were behaving in ways they might not have done otherwise.

I'd actually like to see what you were wittering on about to inspire such extreme reactions. I think I can hazard a guess from your posts here. Not pretty.

adriftinadenofvipers · 26/03/2023 19:03

Ludo19 · 26/03/2023 19:00

Oh you're very snappy eh.

That was my response to a PP not to incite your bile love.

I'm definitely not thick to question.

You're very aggressive......not a nice look.

Nah, not at all. I realise you can't fix stupid. Luv.

Ludo19 · 26/03/2023 19:04

adriftinadenofvipers · 26/03/2023 19:03

Nah, not at all. I realise you can't fix stupid. Luv.

Aw love you too sweetie

twelly · 26/03/2023 19:11

sleepwouldbenice · 26/03/2023 16:48

Your comments about hospitals are absolute rubbish
The only areas which weren't busy were those that couldn't taken place effectively because of covid
You really have fallen for the lies
Children had some neglect
Like all of society
It was a pandemic

I don't think I have "fallen" for the lies - this is what I saw.
Hospitals were empty other than the covid wards and maternity, those who were working were absolutely flat out and showed amazing commitment and dedication. Ambulances were not in use and much of the hospital was also not in use -the last year with the huge NHS crisis has seen the NHS stretched to the limit
The neglect of children was huge ranging from the poor children who suffered at the hands of those they lived with, those who became isolated and were subjected to endless hours of the internet away from friends and society and becoming increasingly scared into submission. We are only now seeing some of the damage and this will take years to sort.

adriftinadenofvipers · 26/03/2023 19:14

twelly · 26/03/2023 19:11

I don't think I have "fallen" for the lies - this is what I saw.
Hospitals were empty other than the covid wards and maternity, those who were working were absolutely flat out and showed amazing commitment and dedication. Ambulances were not in use and much of the hospital was also not in use -the last year with the huge NHS crisis has seen the NHS stretched to the limit
The neglect of children was huge ranging from the poor children who suffered at the hands of those they lived with, those who became isolated and were subjected to endless hours of the internet away from friends and society and becoming increasingly scared into submission. We are only now seeing some of the damage and this will take years to sort.

If children were "scared into submission", then the parents weren't handling it well. Though anyone with half a brain cell was scared. It was a frightening situation. I simply cannot understand those who seek to minimise it.

Delatron · 26/03/2023 19:14

twelly · 26/03/2023 19:11

I don't think I have "fallen" for the lies - this is what I saw.
Hospitals were empty other than the covid wards and maternity, those who were working were absolutely flat out and showed amazing commitment and dedication. Ambulances were not in use and much of the hospital was also not in use -the last year with the huge NHS crisis has seen the NHS stretched to the limit
The neglect of children was huge ranging from the poor children who suffered at the hands of those they lived with, those who became isolated and were subjected to endless hours of the internet away from friends and society and becoming increasingly scared into submission. We are only now seeing some of the damage and this will take years to sort.

Yep my doctor friend in a large London hospital said it was awful (predictably) Feb/March 2020 but from the end of April until autumn it was very quiet.

My friend who works in safeguarding in a locks school said many children simply disappeared off the radar.

Delatron · 26/03/2023 19:15

In a local school

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 26/03/2023 19:15

Because it wasn't the time to be "questioning" anything. Nobody - not even those of you who think you were somehow superior and knew better - knew what the entire world was being faced with. Better to err on the side of caution, you know, the greater good of the greatest number.

I'm sorry but if the government is telling me who I can see, who I can have in my own home, prevent DH from working and do their best to destroy the hospitality industry then I will fucking question it. What has come to light since has made the restrictions seem even worse.

Oh and before anyone has a go I mainly followed the rules despite thinking some were ridiculous. I wore a mask when I had to, although I never wore one outside (I didn't wear one in my own home despite one batshit poster telling me I would if I really loved DH!).

Some of the comments on this thread remind me of 2020, they are vile. I'm not saying I agree with OP about everything, I don't, but I really hoped we'd got past the throwing insults at anyone who questions anything stage but clearly not.

Delatron · 26/03/2023 19:16

it is always the time to be questioning the government - especially when they are taking away basic civil liberties. FFS. Blind acceptance again.

JenniferBooth · 26/03/2023 19:17

@adriftinadenofvipers So you are saying the OP brought physical threats on herself. Because thats not really a good look You are saying that people deserve to be threatened and assaulted for their opinions

adriftinadenofvipers · 26/03/2023 19:19

SweetSakura · 26/03/2023 12:58

Exactly.

Made worse now we know the Matt Hancock was gleefully playing tonsil tennis with Gina whatserface the whole time

That's all very well in retrospect. We know a lot about the virus that we simply didn't know in 2020. Of course things could have been handled differently/better and Matt truly is a cock (though to be fair, I think we did know even before he got caught with his kaks down!)

JenniferBooth · 26/03/2023 19:22

THEY must have known because they wouldnt have been snogging each other and having parties. The REALLY unpalatable thought is that they locked us all down so there would be enough beds for ALL of THEM!

adriftinadenofvipers · 26/03/2023 19:26

JenniferBooth · 26/03/2023 19:17

@adriftinadenofvipers So you are saying the OP brought physical threats on herself. Because thats not really a good look You are saying that people deserve to be threatened and assaulted for their opinions

Try reading what I actually said dear Jen. I said that it was not an excuse but a reason.

Most of us wouldn't argue extreme views on our personal social media, with people who could easily see where we lived/worked etc. That's not really a good look either. It's actually stupid. We all have to be responsible for our own safety online. When these things started to happen, OP should have had the good commonsense to take a step back.

Between that and her extreme behaviour around school rules in a small community - I'm sure word wasn't long in getting around about the OP's views and her strident expressing of them!

JenniferBooth · 26/03/2023 19:27

Reason excuse ............................semantics

adriftinadenofvipers · 26/03/2023 19:27

JenniferBooth · 26/03/2023 19:25

Are you always this naive?

adriftinadenofvipers · 26/03/2023 19:30

JenniferBooth · 26/03/2023 19:27

Reason excuse ............................semantics

There is a clear nuance between both words but I'm not about to teach you basic English comprehension.

sleepwouldbenice · 26/03/2023 19:30

Hospital comments are still rubbish
Some wards and clinics or elective services were closed or quieter as their staff were diverted to cope with covid or had to pause/stop or slow down or operate differently because of covid restrictions ( eg breast clinic, opthalmology etc)

But general wards were at breaking points regularly and most wards became covid wards

And yes I work with vulnerable people with close and ongoing connections to acute general nhs hospital care so I do have a clue. Jesus some of you really live in a distorted world

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