Page 21 | To not be over what happened to me during covid/lockdowns

ifyougochasingrabbits · 2023-03-24T09:21:23+00:00

Just a few of the things I went through Losing my cleaning business i had built up over years overnight due to everyone cancelling us Being humiliated by the headteacher at DC school shouting at me in front of other parents because I refused to wear a mask outside . My little girl being made to start school late and finish late because I was unable to wear a mask to collect her (school run was all outside I may add and I had no problem wearing masks in shops etc but I drew the line at in the fresh air outside) watching thousands of pounds of income disappear at an alarming rate. while wondering if we’d still have jobs and be able to keep the house we’d worked our arses off for for years to buy. Going through six months of trauma with H furloughed and depressed because his work could not guarantee he'd still have a job at the end of it. He was on half pay as furlough was only paid up to about 30k salary iirc and if you were on more it was employers discretion to pay the full salary which his work didn't. He was even applying for jobs at supermarkets and delivery driving etc and getting no where despite having a high level job at a major house builder. Watching selfish morons stockpiling at the very beginning “Friends” dumping me, one Cos I dared voice out loud that I wasn’t personally scared of covid and was struggling with restrictions and did not agree with them. Having to deal with the fact that many of my (remaining) friends had views I completely don’t agree with and accepting they probably feel same about me. And having to cope with the fact they supported restrictions that were destroying our lives and mental health Having my business absolutely trashed all over social media and being called a dirty bitch and worse by local people. Fake bad reviews etc. The “reason” was they took exception to me saying on a local page post that I didn't believe in masks in school (this was due to my kids really struggling with them) My 14 year old said he agreed and some of them then found him on fb and messaged him insulted his looks and called him stupid and a fucking moron etc. This was actual grown adults. a random person inboxed me on Facebook due to seeing my business ad and threatened to "smash my face in" because she thinks i was “endangering lives” by working My neighbour reporting us to the police for having an illegal gathering. This "illegal gathering" was me, my H and our 3 dc having a bbq in the garden. Needless to say we all live together Being put on medication for panic attacks and anxiety in fact I minimised it to the gp. I was actually suicidal and the only reason I am still here is because of my kids and the fact my husband and parents had the same views as me. But I would secretly hope to die in my sleep and almost every day I would wake up and cry because I was still here. Watching my 3 Kids completely fall apart due to schools being closed. While not only having to deal with seeing posts all over fb about how well other kids were doing and coping doing all their work, managing great. And knowing some people I care about actually wanted schools shut. One of my kids is still very unwell mentally and it all started with lockdowns Oh and to add final insult to injury, in November 2021 I had to pay £5700 (which was part credit card and part all of our savings) privately for an operation that should have been freely available on the nhs. But cos covid they could not give me a date and I was getting more and more poorly and could not wait. I am still angry and maybe I should get over it. But I can't. And There's probably more but these are the stand out moments. I'm doing okay now and I have a new business and I'm doing well, H has a new job as he could not trust his old place after covid. but I've been very low again recently with the anniversary of it all

Woeismeitappears · 24/03/2023 21:25

I don’t Know how to quote a post but this is in response to the comment about how ‘no one would have stopped me from entering the hospital’

the night I got to go in and sit with my husband as he died. I hate to wear a space suit, with an oxygen tank thing and gloves and everything else. The visor kept fogging up and I had Absolutely no way of clearing it and yet I sat there for hours. Unable to hear anything other than the constant beeping of the machines. In the time I was there, 3 people died. Three people and they were alone bar the amazing ICU nurses who cried.

one person was laying in their bed on a vent and I couldn’t see them but I could hear a tiny toddler rabbiting on to his dad about his day and his mum saying ‘tell daddy about the cupcakes’

Dont you dare insinuate that we didn’t care enough, that we didn’t fight hard enough. The day before he died I spent 24 hours on FaceTime, just watching him and taking to him and reading him stories. I didn’t eat, I didn’t sleep and I ran to the toilet, terrified that he would be alone for a second. I would have done anything to be with him, anything. But the nurses were keeping him alive, trying to keep them all alive and it took 20 minutes to get us suited up to visit with very few suits available.

bitch about lockdown, moan about whatever you like, frankly I couldn’t care less - after what we went through none of that has the power to hurt me but don’t you dare say that me and the other families didn’t fight hard enough to be with our loved ones. That is beyond cruel

Woeismeitappears · 24/03/2023 21:30

Sorry to clairify the tiny toddler was on FaceTime with her mum prompting them.

JenniferBooth · 24/03/2023 21:42

OP thats horrific Did you report the threat in your Facebook PMs?

What i experienced at Christmas 2020 I got PMed through fb several times by a man id never physically met who asked me if i had spent Christmas with my family and then asked if i was still following the rules,and how we should all follow the rules unlike some. It was fucking creepy. A man PMing a woman he has never physically met late at night to make sure ask if she is still following the rules.

I DID go to my parents that Christmas as im a carer so was "allowed" to but i didnt tell him that The way he went on afterwards about how people should follow the rules told me i made the right decision especially as he was in our local fb group (so he is local) and his posts showed he had put his OWN interpretation on the rules like many on here. I have kept these messages I havent deleted them and i wont be doing so.

RatesWillRise · 24/03/2023 22:06

Woeismeitappears · 24/03/2023 21:25

I don’t Know how to quote a post but this is in response to the comment about how ‘no one would have stopped me from entering the hospital’

the night I got to go in and sit with my husband as he died. I hate to wear a space suit, with an oxygen tank thing and gloves and everything else. The visor kept fogging up and I had Absolutely no way of clearing it and yet I sat there for hours. Unable to hear anything other than the constant beeping of the machines. In the time I was there, 3 people died. Three people and they were alone bar the amazing ICU nurses who cried.

one person was laying in their bed on a vent and I couldn’t see them but I could hear a tiny toddler rabbiting on to his dad about his day and his mum saying ‘tell daddy about the cupcakes’

Dont you dare insinuate that we didn’t care enough, that we didn’t fight hard enough. The day before he died I spent 24 hours on FaceTime, just watching him and taking to him and reading him stories. I didn’t eat, I didn’t sleep and I ran to the toilet, terrified that he would be alone for a second. I would have done anything to be with him, anything. But the nurses were keeping him alive, trying to keep them all alive and it took 20 minutes to get us suited up to visit with very few suits available.

bitch about lockdown, moan about whatever you like, frankly I couldn’t care less - after what we went through none of that has the power to hurt me but don’t you dare say that me and the other families didn’t fight hard enough to be with our loved ones. That is beyond cruel

Ignore those thick idiots, trying to look ‘hard’ and ‘rebellious’.

I am so sorry you went through that x

TorchwoodWho · 24/03/2023 22:14

To echo @RatesWillRise ignore the poster trying to look hard, they're well aware that at best, they'd have created a scene while being removed from a hospital kicking and screaming while simply upsetting other family members and patients and putting pressure on the already stressed staff.

Please don't let idiots like that make you feel like you did anything wrong, it's an unimaginably awful situation and I don't know how I'd cope - you are very strong to have been there for your husband constantly when he needed you the most, both over FaceTime and in person.

JockTamsonsBairns · 24/03/2023 22:22

JarByTheDoor · 24/03/2023 10:13

I've never worn a mask outside because I think it's pointless and I've never had any reason to. I'm asthmatic and autistic and wear glasses that fog up, and absolutely hate wearing masks. However, DP and I were both classified as CEV, him being even more vulnerable than me, so I not only followed the rules and wore them indoors throughout the height of the pandemic, but also still wear an FFP2 indoors even now, in healthcare settings or when the infection rate is up (mostly for DP's peace of mind).

But I don't see the point at all outdoors.

Having said that, even though you say you had no problem at all actually wearing a mask, you were willing to disrupt your daughter's education, disrupt her class, and impose extra work and hassle on staff, all for the principle of not wanting to follow the extra school mask rules for a few minutes a day because you (and I) believed they were pointless.

Why would you put that particular principle ahead of your daughter's education, and the goodwill of the staff you trust to educate and look after her? I'm sure most of the parents probably did an internal eyeroll at the over-cautious request, but prioritised their children's education over the principle that they shouldn't have to wear a mask outside for five minutes.

You talk like you were making a principled stand against authoritarian overreach, "This far and no farther" sort of thing, but we weren't in a YA dystopian novel, it was just real people muddling through a tricky situation while unsure of how the science would shake out, trying to be pragmatic and not make life unnecessarily harder on each other.

I think the outdoor mask thing might be representative of how you approached the situation, how others perceived you, and why you made it even worse for yourself than it had to be.

This is a brilliant summary of what was going on at the time.
On reflection, some of the measures may have been overkill - but, decent folk were just doing their best to muddle through an unprecedented situation with the minimum of harm to other people.
"Taking a stand" against the restrictions back in the thick of 2020 was just dickish behaviour.

Inkpotlover · 24/03/2023 22:29

Woeismeitappears · 24/03/2023 21:25

I don’t Know how to quote a post but this is in response to the comment about how ‘no one would have stopped me from entering the hospital’

the night I got to go in and sit with my husband as he died. I hate to wear a space suit, with an oxygen tank thing and gloves and everything else. The visor kept fogging up and I had Absolutely no way of clearing it and yet I sat there for hours. Unable to hear anything other than the constant beeping of the machines. In the time I was there, 3 people died. Three people and they were alone bar the amazing ICU nurses who cried.

one person was laying in their bed on a vent and I couldn’t see them but I could hear a tiny toddler rabbiting on to his dad about his day and his mum saying ‘tell daddy about the cupcakes’

Dont you dare insinuate that we didn’t care enough, that we didn’t fight hard enough. The day before he died I spent 24 hours on FaceTime, just watching him and taking to him and reading him stories. I didn’t eat, I didn’t sleep and I ran to the toilet, terrified that he would be alone for a second. I would have done anything to be with him, anything. But the nurses were keeping him alive, trying to keep them all alive and it took 20 minutes to get us suited up to visit with very few suits available.

bitch about lockdown, moan about whatever you like, frankly I couldn’t care less - after what we went through none of that has the power to hurt me but don’t you dare say that me and the other families didn’t fight hard enough to be with our loved ones. That is beyond cruel

This is heartbreaking to read. I am so, so sorry for your loss @Woeismeitappears. What you went through you wouldn't wish on your worst enemy.

Seenandheard · 24/03/2023 22:38

I understand you.

I escaped to a no lock down, non mask wearing Country for the duration. And honestly from afar, it felt like everyone had drunk the kool aid.

It was a bizarrely unique situation that involved everyone on the planet, and therefore one from which you couldn't escape. So, everyone with their values, backgrounds, priorities, education- they were all simultaneously deciding (and arguing) about the same situation at the same time. Non scientific folk having extremely scientific opinions. People who couldn't understands stats, or have a truly non-biased opinion having extremely strong opinions - particularly involving how others (we) lived our lives. And I'm not saying I knew better than them, i just had my opinions and wanted to be left alone. But there was no escape, nowhere to go.
You had to engage constantly with opposing opinions or (like you and me) pipe down our suffer the consequences from people your previously thought were amicable relationships. It was pure insanity and claustrophobia, and you couldn't just switch off from it or find "your tribe". It was EVERYONE. And that's the mild version (compared to what you seem to have experienced).

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ifyougochasingrabbits · 24/03/2023 22:40

For those posters frothing that I've not engaged with each and every post I dunno if I missed the rule that every single post has to be responded to? But here's a blanket response seeing as so many people are demanding one 😆

Firstly yes I have responded to as many of the ones agreeing with me as I can. cos they have felt the same and or had similar shit happen. and I want to show them solidarity as i hate the fact so many people have been through similar

Some Posters trying to gaslight me that my daughters mental health issues are "my fault" simply because me and her dad did not agree with lockdown policies,. Vile, fuck off .
My kids actually never knew how much we struggled financially and mentally ...we kept it from them like any good parents would and kept things as "normal" as possible for them.

Posters Ignoring the fact that when I was threatened with physical abuse it wasn't for "arguing online" or whatever, it was in response to me simply posting a business ad on Facebook. When I was "allowed" 🙄 back at work

And my 14 year old son being abused for expressing his perfectly VALID opinion is apparently okay too . ...note that no where in my post did I say he said he did NOT wear a mask at school simply that he did not AGREE with it which he had EVERY right to state this. And me expressing this same opinion (not even on my business page or account) did not give anyone the right to try and ruin my small business and if anyone thinks it is okay then you need to have a very long hard look at yourself. I got the last laugh as a) it did not work and b) I'm earning a lot more now in my new business but it still pisses me off how cunty people were

Also just because I did not agree with masks in schools did not make me an unsafe or unclean cleaner. Or mean that I did not wear a mask when necessary (rare considering we mostly cleaned empty properties) And actually many of my original cleaning clients decided they wanted me back by September but it was too late as that's when I retrained. So again. fuck right off with that

And acting like I should have been perfectly fine with our households income being slashed by half. Doesn't matter if someone is on 20k, 40k or 140k a year... generally if you're paying a mortgage (or rent) and bills accordingly to that income so if your income gets halved overnight then you're Gona fucking suffer 🙄 especially with the redundancy threat hanging over us ! we were literally selling possessions. In the past I've been more poor than a lot people on here can even imagine and the thought of going "back there" was awful and it still haunts me now that fear of being poor again and the shame and stigma of that.

Also some posters are assuming I am some kind of covid denying anti vax anti masker when I am not. And I have explained several times I wore masks inside but no people are deliberately missing this point and would rather pick on the fact I would not wear one in the fresh air on the fucking pavement outside my kids school

And I am genuinely sorry for people who lost their loved ones 💐 my opinions on lockdown do not mean I don't care about the ones who lost their lives

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ifyougochasingrabbits · 24/03/2023 22:43

JenniferBooth · 24/03/2023 21:42

OP thats horrific Did you report the threat in your Facebook PMs?

What i experienced at Christmas 2020 I got PMed through fb several times by a man id never physically met who asked me if i had spent Christmas with my family and then asked if i was still following the rules,and how we should all follow the rules unlike some. It was fucking creepy. A man PMing a woman he has never physically met late at night to make sure ask if she is still following the rules.

I DID go to my parents that Christmas as im a carer so was "allowed" to but i didnt tell him that The way he went on afterwards about how people should follow the rules told me i made the right decision especially as he was in our local fb group (so he is local) and his posts showed he had put his OWN interpretation on the rules like many on here. I have kept these messages I havent deleted them and i wont be doing so.

I remember reading this happened to you 💐

Fucking weird freak man 🤦‍♀️ what the hell was wrong with people to think it was okay to stalk and bully people like this xxx

Yeah I reported it for all the good it did 🙄 I've still kept the Pm as well and at the time sent a screenshot to my H. incase I did end up actually getting my face smashed in when I was out we would have a suspect 😆

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ifyougochasingrabbits · 24/03/2023 22:45

Seenandheard · 24/03/2023 22:38

I understand you.

I escaped to a no lock down, non mask wearing Country for the duration. And honestly from afar, it felt like everyone had drunk the kool aid.

It was a bizarrely unique situation that involved everyone on the planet, and therefore one from which you couldn't escape. So, everyone with their values, backgrounds, priorities, education- they were all simultaneously deciding (and arguing) about the same situation at the same time. Non scientific folk having extremely scientific opinions. People who couldn't understands stats, or have a truly non-biased opinion having extremely strong opinions - particularly involving how others (we) lived our lives. And I'm not saying I knew better than them, i just had my opinions and wanted to be left alone. But there was no escape, nowhere to go.
You had to engage constantly with opposing opinions or (like you and me) pipe down our suffer the consequences from people your previously thought were amicable relationships. It was pure insanity and claustrophobia, and you couldn't just switch off from it or find "your tribe". It was EVERYONE. And that's the mild version (compared to what you seem to have experienced).

THIS

I remember desperately wanting to move house and crying and begging H to agree but he rightly said it would be the same everywhere 😔

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adriftinadenofvipers · 24/03/2023 22:49

Blueflag22 · 24/03/2023 15:05

And that's all you can say because what they did was criminal and the OP isn't the only one upset and in fact wide awake to the biggest scam going. We willnher justice for the lives destroyed and excess deaths that are happening now. They lied through their teeth.

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Scam? My hole!

twelly · 24/03/2023 22:51

I wish I had been more outspoken against the lockdown - I made my views clear to friends and likeminded people but not beyond.

Inthedarkagain · 24/03/2023 22:56

I agree that COVID brought out the worst in people. Some people decided they were within their right to police the nation and be dicks and some weren't aware of other people being really anxious and should have maybe worn a mask for their sake.i did for those people, not because I was convinced it would do something to help, but because people were scared and it reassured them.

Seeing people driving their car, alone, wearing a mask totally baffled me. I walked into a shop and the shop assisant barked at me because i didnt follow the arrows. Utter madness, but peo people didnt see it at the time. Some people were utter idiots and couldn't see the economic calamity on the horizon and the fact that COVID was an all too convenient excuse to print lots of money into existence to save banks and zombie companies that were already failing. I believe COVID existed and was a pandemic, but I think it was used to very wealthy people's advantage too.

I still feel like I need to get over it. I had a year old baby and it was very tough. I also lost a relative to it too.

Please don't let it get you down for this reason. It means the people that used it and scared the nation for their own ends and wanted to create these divisions I society have won.

sst1234 · 24/03/2023 23:01

saoirse31 · 24/03/2023 09:30

I'd be unimpressed that you couldn't bother to wear a mask to get your five year old to school on time tbh. I'd also think, just from reading your post, that you were possibly quite exceedingly self centred about the way you raised issues which I imagine may have hastened your friends departure. I'm sorry about your mental health and your children's mental health issues. If I'm honest I'm sorrier about the people who lost their lives and for those who are suffering life chging results from having COVID, particularly those who got it before vaccines. Hope your life and your family's lives improve.

We’re you one of the morons…sorry mask police?

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Woeismeitappears · 24/03/2023 23:20

I was had? I’m hysterical?

bloody amazing! That is brilliant news.. I had no idea my husbands death was all a scam… should I put his bloody tea on? Cos obviously the 200,000 people that died are just gonna walk through the door are they?

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ifyougochasingrabbits · 24/03/2023 23:21

Inthedarkagain · 24/03/2023 22:56

I agree that COVID brought out the worst in people. Some people decided they were within their right to police the nation and be dicks and some weren't aware of other people being really anxious and should have maybe worn a mask for their sake.i did for those people, not because I was convinced it would do something to help, but because people were scared and it reassured them.

Seeing people driving their car, alone, wearing a mask totally baffled me. I walked into a shop and the shop assisant barked at me because i didnt follow the arrows. Utter madness, but peo people didnt see it at the time. Some people were utter idiots and couldn't see the economic calamity on the horizon and the fact that COVID was an all too convenient excuse to print lots of money into existence to save banks and zombie companies that were already failing. I believe COVID existed and was a pandemic, but I think it was used to very wealthy people's advantage too.

I still feel like I need to get over it. I had a year old baby and it was very tough. I also lost a relative to it too.

Please don't let it get you down for this reason. It means the people that used it and scared the nation for their own ends and wanted to create these divisions I society have won.

Totally agree re the economic calamity I saw this from even before we'd locked down

I mean look at the fucking state of everything now 😳🤯

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adriftinadenofvipers · 24/03/2023 23:22

gettingoldisshit · 24/03/2023 15:10

That is awful, im so sorry for your loss.

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I am so very sorry. That's just awful, hope you are doing as well as you can.

It must be so hard for you to see all the dickish comments from fools.

((Hugs)) xx

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ifyougochasingrabbits · 24/03/2023 23:27

@Inthedarkagain I agree with the rest of your post too!

Oh the fucking arrows
remember being out with the kids summer 2020 when we had that brief freedom
and they wanted to go in a charity shop as they love books, and literally charity shop books were all we could afford it was 2 at a time 🙄 so I went in with my then 11yo . shop was empty apart from us and two staff eyeing us frostily . My little girl made a bee line for the books and immediately got shouted at for going in the "WRONG DIRECTION !!!!!" there was no one within 10 foot of her!!!
I will never forget her eyes filling with tears and her confusion on her face 🥺 I marched her straight out, bloody bullying bastards shouting at a kid

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adriftinadenofvipers · 24/03/2023 23:27

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As do the selfish assholes in denial, without a shred of intelligence, insight or knowledge.

Some of us cared enough about our fellow humans to endure privations just in case it might save some lives - nobody knew what was right or wrong.

But some of you selfish idiots thought you knew better. I wonder how many of you spread the virus to people who lost their lives as a result...

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Fifi1010 · 24/03/2023 23:37

SunshineAndMonsteras · 24/03/2023 19:17

Half of this could have been prevented if UK did like some other countries and mask exceptions were given by GP with confirmation. No need to disclose condition but people had proof of exemption which meant very few pisstakers so obviously very little anger towards those without masks. Simply because, unlike here, the automatic assumption was "oh they are exempt" rather than "oh another twat against masks"

Another lie, China were really strict and it still ripped through.

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ifyougochasingrabbits · 24/03/2023 23:39

@adriftinadenofvipers

Imagine being okay with any of the pointless bullshit I described in my last post and someone yelling at an innocent little girl for absolutely no good reason

Absolutely Horrible 🥺😳

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adriftinadenofvipers · 24/03/2023 23:44

Woeismeitappears · 24/03/2023 21:25

I don’t Know how to quote a post but this is in response to the comment about how ‘no one would have stopped me from entering the hospital’

the night I got to go in and sit with my husband as he died. I hate to wear a space suit, with an oxygen tank thing and gloves and everything else. The visor kept fogging up and I had Absolutely no way of clearing it and yet I sat there for hours. Unable to hear anything other than the constant beeping of the machines. In the time I was there, 3 people died. Three people and they were alone bar the amazing ICU nurses who cried.

one person was laying in their bed on a vent and I couldn’t see them but I could hear a tiny toddler rabbiting on to his dad about his day and his mum saying ‘tell daddy about the cupcakes’

Dont you dare insinuate that we didn’t care enough, that we didn’t fight hard enough. The day before he died I spent 24 hours on FaceTime, just watching him and taking to him and reading him stories. I didn’t eat, I didn’t sleep and I ran to the toilet, terrified that he would be alone for a second. I would have done anything to be with him, anything. But the nurses were keeping him alive, trying to keep them all alive and it took 20 minutes to get us suited up to visit with very few suits available.

bitch about lockdown, moan about whatever you like, frankly I couldn’t care less - after what we went through none of that has the power to hurt me but don’t you dare say that me and the other families didn’t fight hard enough to be with our loved ones. That is beyond cruel

Oh god, you poor pet, that's so heartrending - I am so so sorry for everything you went through, you and your poor darling DH. It's appalling that it came to that, and it was terrifying, particularly for those of us with medical conditions or no longer in the first flush of youth. I can't begin to imagine what you must have gone through.

When Covid first came along, my DH who has multiple health conditions cried and said he was so afraid he wouldn't come out the other side.

Your poor DH didn't, which is just unbelievably awful, my heart goes out to you.

It just makes me even more angry with the fucking Covid deniers, and idiots like the OP here. I simply struggle to understand how their stupidity and ignorance trumps the human rights of all of the rest of us.

The deniers, minimisers and CT theorists make me feel sick. I hope you and your family are doing ok xx