To not be over what happened to me during covid/lockdowns

[ifyougochasingrabbits]

Just a few of the things I went through

Losing my cleaning business i had built up over years overnight due to everyone cancelling us

Being humiliated by the headteacher at DC school shouting at me in front of other parents because I refused to wear a mask outside . My little girl being made to start school late and finish late because I was unable to wear a mask to collect her (school run was all outside I may add and I had no problem wearing masks in shops etc but I drew the line at in the fresh air outside)

watching thousands of pounds of income disappear at an alarming rate. while wondering if we’d still have jobs and be able to keep the house we’d worked our arses off for for years to buy. Going through six months of trauma with H furloughed and depressed because his work could not guarantee he'd still have a job at the end of it. He was on half pay as furlough was only paid up to about 30k salary iirc and if you were on more it was employers discretion to pay the full salary which his work didn't. He was even applying for jobs at supermarkets and delivery driving etc and getting no where despite having a high level job at a major house builder.

Watching selfish morons stockpiling at the very beginning

“Friends” dumping me, one Cos I dared voice out loud that I wasn’t personally scared of covid and was struggling with restrictions and did not agree with them.

Having to deal with the fact that many of my (remaining) friends had views I completely don’t agree with and accepting they probably feel same about me.
And having to cope with the fact they supported restrictions that were destroying our lives and mental health

Having my business absolutely trashed all over social media and being called a dirty bitch and worse by local people. Fake bad reviews etc. The “reason” was they took exception to me saying on a local page post that I didn't believe in masks in school (this was due to my kids really struggling with them) My 14 year old said he agreed and some of them then found him on fb and messaged him insulted his looks and called him stupid and a fucking moron etc. This was actual grown adults.

a random person inboxed me on Facebook due to seeing my business ad and threatened to "smash my face in" because she thinks i was “endangering lives” by working

My neighbour reporting us to the police for having an illegal gathering. This "illegal gathering" was me, my H and our 3 dc having a bbq in the garden. Needless to say we all live together

Being put on medication for panic attacks and anxiety in fact I minimised it to the gp. I was actually suicidal and the only reason I am still here is because of my kids and the fact my husband and parents had the same views as me. But I would secretly hope to die in my sleep and almost every day I would wake up and cry because I was still here.

Watching my 3 Kids completely fall apart due to schools being closed. While not only having to deal with seeing posts all over fb about how well other kids were doing and coping doing all their work, managing great. And knowing some people I care about actually wanted schools shut. One of my kids is still very unwell mentally and it all started with lockdowns

Oh and to add final insult to injury, in November 2021 I had to pay £5700 (which was part credit card and part all of our savings) privately for an operation that should have been freely available on the nhs. But cos covid they could not give me a date and I was getting more and more poorly and could not wait.

I am still angry and maybe I should get over it. But I can't. And There's probably more but these are the stand out moments. I'm doing okay now and I have a new business and I'm doing well, H has a new job as he could not trust his old place after covid. but I've been very low again recently with the anniversary of it all

I feel like this too

But yeah apparently we're all selfish conspiracy theorist granny killers 😆

Seriously though I hope you are okay ...I'm considering paying for private therapy tbh as I know I should not still be this angry x

As I said in my response to the other poster, we did risk assessments of staff in order to protect vulnerable people from having to come into the office during covid. The individuals I spoke of were amongst those who TOLD US neither they nor their household had health conditions or disabilities. That is how I know. They told us.
Is that good enough? Or should we avoid assuming people who say they have no disabilities actually have no disabilities, in the event they're lying?

@ifyougochasingrabbits That is kind of you. I basically try not to think about it, but every now and then am reminded! I hope that you do manage to access private therapy, and that it helps.

Not a dramatic twist. I don't do drama at all. It is a fact. I would not have complied, because the only way anyone could have forced me to comply would have involved significant physical restraint, and even the Covid rules did not permit that to my knowledge.

That’s absolutely not true. Masks have saved many lives. Read the research for goodness sake, although I doubt you’ll be able to understand much of it 🙄

You are incredibly lucky that you didn’t have to shield for a year, be hospitalised twice (not covid related) during the pandemic and know anyone one who died of covid. We all had a hard time, the entire world in fact, not just you, which you should take note of. I think you made it harder in yourself and your family by your attitude tbh.

Half of this could have been prevented if UK did like some other countries and mask exceptions were given by GP with confirmation. No need to disclose condition but people had proof of exemption which meant very few pisstakers so obviously very little anger towards those without masks. Simply because, unlike here, the automatic assumption was "oh they are exempt" rather than "oh another twat against masks"

@etopp you would have been restrained if you tried to force your way into an intensive care ward. No one would have killed you and you would not have killed anybody. You would have been physically blocked and you would have had no choice. Covid or no covid. You simply cannot say "I don't do drama" and then talk about killing people. You were not in the awful position that those who lost loved ones were.

OP, you definitely need therapy….as do your children by the sounds of it although not because of Covid. You obviously have a low intelligence and a lot of issues which is damaging your children. Maybe get some therapy for that.

No. They have no obligation to disclose. However, in the midst of a pandemic known to pose a particular risk to people in certain circumstances, when asked by their manager as part of a risk assessment if any of those circumstances applied to them (because, if so, arrangements would be made to negate their need to come into the office if they so wished) can you think of any reason why they would choose to lie? And it would have been a lie, because they didn't decline to respond, they answered in the negative.
So, much as you'd like to demonstrate that I can't possibly know if these people had hidden disabilities or not; can you think of any rational reason to still suppose they may have, yet lied about it, despite knowing if they'd disclosed it, they would have got what they wanted, which was not to attend the office?

Wrong. I’m self employed and self employment help was announced in late March. I had my first SEISS in my bank account on 19/5/2020

You need to make peace with the fact that the majority of voters accepted lockdown, which is why it was able to last as long as it did. It’s fine to be in a minority but if you let it turn you into a misanthrope then you’re still fighting a battle most others have moved in from.

You need the therapy OP if the way you are responding to people on this thread is anything like how you are in real life. Might sound harsh but no wonder you lost friendships. You seem to have no ability to read the room and only want to engage with others who think like you do. You are convinced you are right and cannot see nuances and take other factors into account. As PP have said we were in an extraordinary situation where no-one knew what the right thing to do was, hindsight is a great thing.

Unfortunately there is no point trying to engage with you but I hope that a sliver of what has been played back to you from those who disagree with you gets into your head for the sake of your children.

Half of the issues you raised were completely down to your own behaviour. Failure to recognise that will be part of your undoing.

Or worked ridiculously long hours in hospitals. Maybe watched people die. Maybe had colleagues die.

A lot of lockdown moaners sceptics are coming out of the woodwork on MN recently, but in lieu of a time machine I’m not sure what they want from these threads other than to vent. If there is another pandemic we wouldn’t be able to afford similar restrictions again, so they need ent worry.

^ This.

If your only response after reading pages of people talking about loved ones dying of Covid is to laugh about being labelled a 'granny killer' you need fucking help, OP. That is callous beyond words. I pity your children.

I really feel for you OP. The lockdowns and Covid itself affected people in vastly disparate ways and it seems random and so unfair. I really understand why it would make a person bitter.

I was one of those fortunate people for whom lockdown was largely a pleasant experience - both of us WFH in a suitable, safe house with a garden, in a happy relationship, I was on maternity leave for the first one so no worries about trying to work and care for a child. But even at the time I couldn’t bear the wittering about birdsong and banana bread and family time, and how anyone who dared say anything vaguely negative about lockdown got their head ripped off. It must have been intolerable for people (of whom there were many) who were suffering as a result.

From memory masks and tape were at the height of isolation protocol where classes etc were shutdown for one positive. The tape would have been there to keep playground separate to reduce the number of children that had to be kept indoors.

its tricky because I agree that isolating a whole lot of children who didn’t get positive (although given how quickly it spread I can see the positives as well as the negative) was problematic it was the rules

That’s cool op, you can afford private therapy you utter tool.

I agree @lazycats

we were all doing, at the time, Etsy we thought was right. Hindsight, as they say, is a marvellous thing.

even though, now, I might think some things were ridiculous, at the time I genuinely thought I was doing the right thing and I’m glad I did the right thing

This is heartbreaking. Much love to you.

OP, your post reads as you minimising the struggles and losses of others by refusing to wear a mask. 30k is a lot of money to me and many others

However we all struggle in different ways and I'm sorry you lost your business.