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To wonder about the government warning to our phones.

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TarasHarp55 · 21/03/2023 17:29

Does anyone know much about this emergency warning thing on our phones. Can't remember the exact day but in April they're going to test it out. Is it fear mongering again. I'm going to switch it off, anyone else.

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CoffeeWithCheese · 25/03/2023 15:58

Disabled it. Don't trust this shower of shit that governs the world after the stuff they pulled during the pandemic where they manipulated public fear so cynically.

Will start off as "oooh don't you want to know if a Klingon Bird of Prey is sited off the Bristol Channel with phasers set to kill" and then rapidly be ramped up from there until we're all sat terrified waiting to be told what to do... they want to do that - they can pay my phone contract.

MN are currently having a field day concocting hypothetical arm twisting reasons to try to bully those who dare to have a different opinion on any of these threads - the same way they tried during early Covid where if you drove 5 minutes from a concrete towerblock hell to a local park for your daily bastard walk you might have been involved in a car accident and required an ambulance which would have led to the death of 57 hypothetical grannies... and they're salivating over this opportunity to "enforce" compliance on others just as much as they did back then... which terrifies me more than anything and is why I'll actively resist any of this nonsense these days.

And the pandemic proved that the only preventative action we are likely to take if there's an apocalypse heading our way is NOT to head to an underground bunker - but to collectively descend on the bog roll aisle in Tesco for a mass brawl over the remaining family pack of Andrex.

On iPhone (assuming yours is relatively up to date) - settings wheel icon - down to notifications - and at the bottom there are two emergency alert toggles. (Usually worth a scroll through your phone notifications and streamlining them unless you like your homescreen looking like a bingo card in progress in general)

Jonei · 25/03/2023 16:08

PurplePineapple1 · 22/03/2023 10:26

It's interesting, I think, how quickly the language returns to that used during the pandemic. Anyone who questions this is sneerily dismissed as a 'conspiracy theorist'.

Yes, those people are still here. They've got something else to focus on now. Not content with having the alert enabled on their own phones, seemingly they feel it's their duty to persuade other people that they must have it too. Because they're right and those who disagree are wrong.

Jonei · 25/03/2023 16:12

toomuchlaundry · 25/03/2023 13:01

@Jonei do you think we should never get weather warnings on weather forecasts, or flood warnings on the news? If there is a serious chemical/gas leak in your area would you rather take your chances? Would you rather live in a world of ignorance?

Lol. I look up the weather forecast most days as I'm outside a lot. There's a system in place for it already. Works really well. I don't need an alert to tell me of those things. I don't really care about the rest of it. I'll be fine. Don't worry yourself about it. Just worry about yourself. Bless.😂

CoffeeWithCheese · 25/03/2023 16:22

Flood warnings we opt into for my mother's postcode because it's a flood risk - but the areas can be so wide and lacking in nuance that a blanket warning pushed out to the entire AB1 postcode area would just be pointless, and rapidly ignored by people - because round here, there's one area of parkland that's designed to be the area that floods and the local housing areas haven't flooded in the decade and a half I've lived here.

One thing the pandemic should have taught people is that you push too much information at people - it becomes pointless - look at the mountains of covid signage that just became visual wallpaper, the car radio ads that people just ignored after a couple of listens... you KNOW our Govt wouldn't be able to leave the button alone to send information out to everyone for anything and everything and it would rapidly become utterly pointless... then they'd invent a new level of higher tier alert on top of that you'd rapidly be at the point of reliving the Red Dwarf step up to red alert skit.

borderline53 · 25/03/2023 16:25

I agree, we have no need for these alerts, the government want us in a constant state of fear, on top of them making sure we’re skint and depressed, they want to give us heart attacks blasting out sirens on our phones in the middle of the night. No thanks.

Jonei · 25/03/2023 16:29

borderline53 · 25/03/2023 16:25

I agree, we have no need for these alerts, the government want us in a constant state of fear, on top of them making sure we’re skint and depressed, they want to give us heart attacks blasting out sirens on our phones in the middle of the night. No thanks.

And before it's even started, there's people who think it's a necessity and they need it in their lives. Despite managing for years without it.

allibaby · 25/03/2023 16:52

Banditrules · 25/03/2023 14:54

Fair enough, on an iPhone when a low battery warning or notification comes up, you have to click ‘ok’ to dismiss it before you can do anything else. This is the same.

This is coming from the government or the emergency services, tbh I don’t care how corrupt the government is, I can’t get worked up about a very occasional warning coming up on my phone to tell me to close my windows and stay indoors because of a fire, or telling me about a local missing child. Clicking ‘ok’ doesn’t take anything away from my day. It’s also arguable that Apple are more corrupt than any government but that depends what you read!

I'm not worked up about it I'm just not wanting it on my phone.
No company can be more corrupt than our government imho.
You are right though, clicking on it doesn't take anything away from your day but it might put something on your phone.
Yes I know people think that makes me sound like a conspiracy theorist but as I said I don't trust this government at all.
After the shit show of the last 3 years and stuff about that that is starting to come out I'm surprised more people aren't questioning this.

allibaby · 25/03/2023 17:02

toomuchlaundry · 25/03/2023 15:31

@allibaby do you not accept as technology changes we will have different ways of being notified about things, as stated previously, this is just a more technological means of alerting people, moving on from town crier, church bells and air raid sirens (think there is an naval depot that still uses sirens and does a regular warning test) but most sirens have been decommissioned.

You say it is a corrupt Government but I assume a number of these messages will originate from other organisations other than Central government eg emergency services

I live in a town where a major alarm is tested weekly in case of a nuclear spill.
I doubt very much they will get rid it because the whole town can hear it but they can't be sure everyone will have their phone to receive an alert.
Not all progress is good progress.

The thing is as of now this alert test is coming from the government not the emergency services .

PriamFarrl · 25/03/2023 17:10

I think this current government are a bunch of cunts but I have no problem with this.

For example down the road from me used to be a chemical plant. When we moved into our house there was a sign saying ‘if you hear the siren then close all door and windows, do not collect children from the school they will be safe. Wait for further instructions.’

That would be the kind of situation that would be on this system. It is only localised to the whole country wouldn’t be alerted.

I’m staggered at the people saying we don’t have extreme weather in this country. Not now we don’t but you only have to look at the continent to see the dangerous floods there to realise that due to climate change that could easily happen here. Summers have been getting hotter and dryer. We have had large fires where I live the last few years. Again, these alerts will be localised.

As for people questioning why they have chosen that date. Well a Sunday evening is the time when the least amount of people are at work. It won’t disrupt schools etc. And it make sense to test it before the coronation. If there is going to be a terrorist attack then it’s going to be then. Yes people argue that terrorists don’t give warnings but if the police have to shut down a major train station or airport for example then this kind of alert would let people know not to go there.

toomuchlaundry · 25/03/2023 17:31

I think if the Government are going to put something on my phone to monitor me etc they don’t need to have siren to do so. I think those turning this off for that reason are no different to those thinking the vaccine had something in it to monitor us

Jonei · 25/03/2023 17:37

I don't think there was anything in the vaccine to monitor us. I did think it would cause more harm than good. It seems I was not wrong thinking that.

I think the people desperate for continuation of masks, lockdown, squealing on neighbours, vaccines, schools to close for longer, are generally the same people who want alerts on their phone. And think everyone else should have it too.

allibaby · 25/03/2023 17:38

PriamFarrl · 25/03/2023 17:10

I think this current government are a bunch of cunts but I have no problem with this.

For example down the road from me used to be a chemical plant. When we moved into our house there was a sign saying ‘if you hear the siren then close all door and windows, do not collect children from the school they will be safe. Wait for further instructions.’

That would be the kind of situation that would be on this system. It is only localised to the whole country wouldn’t be alerted.

I’m staggered at the people saying we don’t have extreme weather in this country. Not now we don’t but you only have to look at the continent to see the dangerous floods there to realise that due to climate change that could easily happen here. Summers have been getting hotter and dryer. We have had large fires where I live the last few years. Again, these alerts will be localised.

As for people questioning why they have chosen that date. Well a Sunday evening is the time when the least amount of people are at work. It won’t disrupt schools etc. And it make sense to test it before the coronation. If there is going to be a terrorist attack then it’s going to be then. Yes people argue that terrorists don’t give warnings but if the police have to shut down a major train station or airport for example then this kind of alert would let people know not to go there.

The date is insignificant to me the timing however leaves me suspicious.

PriamFarrl · 25/03/2023 17:40

Suspicious of what?

allibaby · 25/03/2023 17:40

toomuchlaundry · 25/03/2023 17:31

I think if the Government are going to put something on my phone to monitor me etc they don’t need to have siren to do so. I think those turning this off for that reason are no different to those thinking the vaccine had something in it to monitor us

Ah well, it only took you 13 pages to get to what you really wanted to post- accusations of conspiracy theorists because they don't share your opinion.
Disappointing but not surprising.

allibaby · 25/03/2023 17:42

PriamFarrl · 25/03/2023 17:40

Suspicious of what?

Go back and read the thread.

PriamFarrl · 25/03/2023 17:44

allibaby · 25/03/2023 17:42

Go back and read the thread.

Because it’s St George’s day? Shakespeare’s birthday? The day after Eid?

Jonei · 25/03/2023 17:57

allibaby · 25/03/2023 17:40

Ah well, it only took you 13 pages to get to what you really wanted to post- accusations of conspiracy theorists because they don't share your opinion.
Disappointing but not surprising.

It's always the way. Very predictable.

allibaby · 25/03/2023 18:03

PriamFarrl · 25/03/2023 17:44

Because it’s St George’s day? Shakespeare’s birthday? The day after Eid?

I think I've mentioned a few times why I'm suspicious of the timings. It's all there in the thread.

allibaby · 25/03/2023 18:05

Jonei · 25/03/2023 17:57

It's always the way. Very predictable.

Yes it is predictable and such a lazy argument.
There is a great quote that sums up these type of people.

' They don't want to hear your opinion, they want to hear THEIR opinion coming out of YOUR mouth'.

Jonei · 25/03/2023 18:07

They don't want to hear your opinion, they want to hear THEIR opinion coming out of YOUR mouth'.

Yes. 😂 It is this exactly. Very well summed up.

PriamFarrl · 25/03/2023 18:09

allibaby · 25/03/2023 18:05

Yes it is predictable and such a lazy argument.
There is a great quote that sums up these type of people.

' They don't want to hear your opinion, they want to hear THEIR opinion coming out of YOUR mouth'.

The thing is that that’s the same of most opinions.

I might be of the opinion that x is the best football team/tv program/pet and I won’t be swayed by your thoughts that y is the best.

Jonei · 25/03/2023 18:11

I don't really care what football team someone else supports. I only care about the one I support.

allibaby · 25/03/2023 18:20

PriamFarrl · 25/03/2023 18:09

The thing is that that’s the same of most opinions.

I might be of the opinion that x is the best football team/tv program/pet and I won’t be swayed by your thoughts that y is the best.

Not really as I myself have stated a few times on this thread , I have zero problem with anyone that thinks this alert is a good idea and see no problem with it, I respect their opinion and decision.
Shame that can't be said for the other way round.

allibaby · 25/03/2023 18:21

Jonei · 25/03/2023 18:11

I don't really care what football team someone else supports. I only care about the one I support.

I don't even like football so couldn't give a toss about football teams whatsoever 😁

Jonei · 25/03/2023 18:24

😁