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WIBU to cancel?

226 replies

LadyLaaLaaa · 20/03/2023 01:16

Recently it was a big birthday of mine, DH had arranged a surprise weekend away for me and him to go back to where we honeymooned (short haul destination), and organised for DSD(20) to come and stay to look after DD(11), he’d arranged it months in advance and arranged the date with DSD prior to booking (I’ve seen text messages plus a calendar invite which she’d accepted), he says he’s also repeatedly discussed it over the phone. DD also knew about it and she says her and DSD had regularly discussed it and made plans about what they wanted to do etc.

DH surprised me on my birthday with his gift, I was so excited because we have never had a weekend away on our own since having DD and it’s usually me who makes holiday plans so I was over the moon he’d gone to so much effort.

When DSD called to wish me happy birthday I thanked her for having DD whilst we go away, “aww no problem” she said. Within minutes she phoned DH asking when we go, she said she could no longer do that date as she had plans that couldn’t be changed (night out/seeing friends). There was no apology to either of us, I’ve not heard from her since, she would normally wish me happy Mother’s Day but I didn’t hear from her today.

There’s nobody else who could look after DD, she’s autistic and although she copes well it just makes childcare tricky as there’s very few people she feels safe and comfortable with.
To do a date change was expensive and we couldn’t be sure that the same wouldn’t happen again so we decided to just cancel and lose the money (100% non refundable as within 14 days).

I’m still gutted, I just feel so let down by her and I feel sad for DH as he really tried to do something special for me and he feels like he failed.

It’s DSD’s 21st coming up and I had booked a gorgeous big cottage for a long weekend for us to celebrate, there’s room for her to bring her boyfriend and a couple of friends and for some extended family to join us too. I paid the deposit last year and now the balance is due and in all honesty I don’t want to pay it any more, I feel like cancelling and losing the deposit. Not out of spite, but just a feeling of “why should I bloody bother?”. She clearly doesn’t appreciate everything me and her dad do for her or else she wouldn’t have done this?

I’m still really hurt by her letting us down and I feel like she just wants to take from us but never give anything in return. I expect that when they’re kids/teenagers but thought she’d have grown out of this by now. Am I expecting too much?

I’m not sure if I’m being unreasonable and childish or if my feelings are valid? I could do with an outsider’s perspective here.

For context I’ve been her SM since she was 4 and overall we’ve had a pretty good relationship, we get on, she confides in me when she needs support or advice etc.
Also for context - we’re not rich, I mean we’re not skint either, but the cottage isn’t cheap and with circumstances the way they are I no longer feel like it’s the best use of all this money.

She doesn’t know that I’ve booked the cottage, I just told her to keep the dates free.

ps. Please be gentle on me, I’m feeling very fragile and emotional already today.

OP posts:
Togoodtobeforgotten · 20/03/2023 11:16

Yes I would cancel.

PoshHorseyBird · 20/03/2023 11:17

Her saying she has plans she can't change..no sorry a night out with friends is not a 'plan you can't change'. I don't know if you or your husband have sat down with her and explained how crap her behaviour is, would she maybe then cancel her plans with friends and carry on her commitment she already made to you? If not then yes cancel the plans for her 21st and say 'sorry we forgot we had plans we couldn't get out of.'

EKGEMS · 20/03/2023 11:39

Hell would freeze over before I did that birthday celebration for her

fruitbrewhaha · 20/03/2023 11:39

I'd better furious.

Cancel the cottage.

And tell her why, they you are not shelling out for another trip which she may ditch you at the last minute when she gets a better offer. I'd also make it very clear how much money her dad lost on the weekend away booking and that her actions have consequences.

LuckySantangelo35 · 20/03/2023 11:51

Refreshing replies here!

usually a step son or step daughter can do no wrong and it always somehow the step parents fault - especially the step mothers!

SeulementUneFois · 20/03/2023 11:53

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 20/03/2023 01:20

Yes, cancel.

When people show you who they are, believe them.

Sorry. Flowers

This, OP.

She has shown you what consideration she has for you.
Really sorry.

BeachBlondey · 20/03/2023 11:55

Marblessolveeverything · 20/03/2023 09:44

Those who are saying oh when I was 20 I was xyz. Well yes that was you and that was then. 20 - 25 year olds are completely different creatures today, partially due to us parenting them differently, to having two years of a pandemic and throw in the fact that nowadays education "mind" learners for longer. So yes they are different creatures to previous generations.

Totally disagree! I have a 26 year old, and a 24 year old. Both are holding down high flying careers, which involve international travel, and in one case a relocation to the States. I also have 8 Godchildren, ranging from ages 18 to 30 and they are all responsible, mature adults. Stop making excuses for adults.

LuckySantangelo35 · 20/03/2023 12:00

BeachBlondey · 20/03/2023 11:55

Totally disagree! I have a 26 year old, and a 24 year old. Both are holding down high flying careers, which involve international travel, and in one case a relocation to the States. I also have 8 Godchildren, ranging from ages 18 to 30 and they are all responsible, mature adults. Stop making excuses for adults.

agree

it’s very infantilising and doing them no favours

PinkSyCo · 20/03/2023 12:04

Really shitty behaviour from her. I take it she knew that her bailing out would leave you no choice but to cancel and lose your money? I do not blame you at all for being pissed off with her and like fuck would I be bothering to arrange anything nice for her ever again anytime soon.

RuthW · 20/03/2023 12:09

Cancel definitely.

dittbtdity · 20/03/2023 12:10

You don't have to be young to be selfish and thoughtless.
Friends daughter (40+) offered her father and step mother her holiday cottage (they didn't ask for it) but cancelled with 2 days notice because her friend asked to use it on the same dates.
How do you explain that behaviour? People are shit.

WasThereAnotherTroyforHertoBurn · 20/03/2023 12:16

Dear DSD

We would love to take you to lunch on or near your birthday, please cancel the rest of the hold the date, date, as I have just remembered we have made dinner plans with Fred and Gladys it can’t be changed and either way we would hate to let them down.

Love

SM and Dad.

DojaPhat · 20/03/2023 12:34

Cancel and stick to your guns because it will most definitely cause a huge fall out.

WhatATimeToBeAlive · 20/03/2023 12:36

Yes I would cancel. She sounds very selfish and self-absorbed. And your DH can tell her why.

palelavender · 20/03/2023 12:36

A lot of people here are talking about the matter in quite esoteric terms like children becoming more separate from their parents etc. I am more vengeance focussed though. She wrecked your special birthday trip away on a whim at the last moment. I'd be ruining her special birthday for her. I would cancel the cottage and I certainly wouldn't buy her a present and if your husband takes her out to dinner then that's up to him. You can dress this up as her learning from her mistakes if you like but really it's not necessary. She behaved shamefully and she knows it.

ChippyTea16 · 20/03/2023 12:39

Awful behaviour from her, curious to know if your DH said anything to her when she told him about having other plans? She sounds completely selfish and yes definitely cancel the cottage booking, she doesn’t deserve it!

Therealjudgejudy · 20/03/2023 12:46

Absolutely cancel. She is too unreliable to trust

firealarmmum · 20/03/2023 13:42

OP have you / your husband actually sat her down and told her how hurt and angry you feel by her letting you down? Not by way of causing a row, but in order to be honest and tell her. You're carrying a lot of understandable fury about how she's behaved and she should see with her own eyes how her thoughtless actions have hurt you. It's a life lesson.

Ohwonderful · 20/03/2023 17:22

TimeForMeToF1y · 20/03/2023 06:59

So she can confirm she can make it in the same way she confirmed she'd be available for the trip?

Fair point, but seeing this is a family trip I suppose it could go ahead without her and still everyone have a nice time.

Marblessolveeverything · 20/03/2023 18:24

Well my take experience of that age group as assigned team members are parents making phone calls for them. Very little personal responsibility and afraid to answer a phone. Hopefully I am only meeting the outliers!

aloris · 20/03/2023 18:29

I wouldn't see it as a vengeance thing, but you are out of pocket for whatever was the cost of the vacation that you had to miss, because of her actions, and that money must be made good somewhere. The birthday cottage is a nonessential trip where you can make up on the cost of the canceled vacation and she doesn't know you booked a birthday cottage so it should not be upsetting for her. But if you kept the birthday cottage and followed through with taking her for a weekend away there for her birthday, then it would seem to her like she was entitled to this big expense despite having cost you money on the weekend away.

It's like, if your kid crashes your nice new car and shrugs when you point out it's going to cost a fortune to fix it, you don't respond by buying them their own nice new car! You buy them a clunker (or you buy them no car!) and say, when you've shown you understand the value of things, then we'll consider buying you a nice new car, if we can still afford it then. It's not to be mean, or to get revenge, it's just sensible.

onetimenamec · 20/03/2023 20:47

Hand on heart, was the cottage booking more about providing your other DD with a more varied social life or purely about her birthday? Did she genuinely want it the way you had planned it? It may happen but sounds unusual for a person of that age to choose it.

UsingChangeofName · 21/03/2023 02:12

5128gap · 20/03/2023 11:03

I have 20s children. I also head a team comprised of several people in this age group, who are required to take on highly responsible tasks where the welfare of others is dependent on them, and think you are doing young people a disservice with this generalising. I know you mean to defend them, but in reality it's the perpetuation of these sorts of opinions that disadvantages them, as it reinforces stereotypes of unreliability, incompetence and immaturity that simply aren't true for all.

I absolutely agree with this.
I have dc in their 20s, the youngest being 21, and there is no way she, or any other young adult I know would do this.
It is selfish to the core. It isn't about forgetting a date they have been told about once. This was kept in the forefront of her mind, talked about , and even she discussed it on more than one occasion with her sister. It isn't about forgetfulness, but about a decision that she has made to let everyone down.

Danskekat · 21/03/2023 02:19

You aren’t being unreasonable to feel how you do about your DSD cancelling. However I would stick with the house. I think that you will be glad you did in the long run.

HoppingPavlova · 21/03/2023 02:32

@BeachBlondey You're making excuses for a fully grown adult

Thats not the case though. A 20yo is not a fully grown adult. Nor is a 21yo. Biology tells us that for a fact. Their brain wiring is not complete and finishes at different rates for different individuals, although of course there is an average for biological females and an average for biological males.

I have treated 21yo’s (serious life changing issues such as plegia’s via accidents) and the general immediate go to is a shut down and requesting mum/dad deal, with/take care of it all. In general when push comes to shove the emotional maturity is not that if a fully grown adult. I understand this is about a weekend babysitting versus immediate dealing with the fact you are now most likely a quadriplegic but irrespective, in general (and yes, with individual variances), their brains are not up to the same level of function.

I’m not saying they get a free pass, not the case as this is part of learning they need to go through. But they are not fully grown adults and equivalent to someone in their mid-late 20’s. Also understand they can join military, go to war etc but realistically that’s just because it’s convenient and we need numbers to do so. If there was plentiful cannon fodder with older people then I dare say the age for military etc would be lifted, but that’s not the case and never will be. It’s also generally taken into account with young adult offenders and sentencing because it’s a real thing.