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Preferred pronoun labels at childrens event

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StopitSarah · 19/03/2023 20:21

I took my primary age children to a science event this weekend. It’s run by university students. Almost all of them had their preferred pronouns on their name labels.

AIBU to feel that was unnecessary and to feel a bit uneasy? One of my children wanted to know why “the man is saying we should say he/him. Isn’t that obvious?”

I asked one of the students who said it was to show support to any trans helpers and was for the benefit of the (adult) students, not the children.

I’m SO BORED and irritated by the trans agenda being every-bloody-where.

But AIBU? I had a good chat with one of the students and he said that they’re all science students and understand that woman = biological female is too simplistic. My brain exploded.

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StopitSarah · 19/03/2023 20:22

To be clear - only the ADULT university students had name labels and preferred pronouns. Not the children attending!

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Divorcedalongtime · 19/03/2023 20:24

Why does it trigger you so much to give everyone equal opportunities? Why is inclusion a problem? It’s good that children learn this early so they never grow into hating themselves for being different and feeling different.

StopitSarah · 19/03/2023 20:26

Where are the equal opportunities for people who are gender critical?

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TheShellBeach · 19/03/2023 20:26

Divorcedalongtime · 19/03/2023 20:24

Why does it trigger you so much to give everyone equal opportunities? Why is inclusion a problem? It’s good that children learn this early so they never grow into hating themselves for being different and feeling different.

It isn't inclusive when women's single-sex spaces are denied to them because men wearing dresses want to use them too.

KrisAkabusi · 19/03/2023 20:26

"Some people prefer to be called she". There you go, a simple answer to your child, no need to make a big deal of it, no need to out yourself as intolerant.

Butchyrestingface · 19/03/2023 20:27

Thank fuck I don't have kids. I'll never be forced to lie gaslight a young child about this shtick in the name of 'inclusion'.

StopitSarah · 19/03/2023 20:27

And having primary children asking why a woman is “them/they” is just 🤯🤯🤯 I think mom binary is utter nonsense. I’m not keen to explain it to a small child.

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StopitSarah · 19/03/2023 20:28

@KrisAkabusi all the “she/her” were very obviously biological females. I only saw one “they/them”. The “he/him were all biologically male too.

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TomatoSandwiches · 19/03/2023 20:28

If you don't like it refuse to go to events that have this as part of their format.

Albiboba · 19/03/2023 20:29

Why is it people always say it’s “so boring” when actually you don’t rant for ages about something that is so boring.

Let’s face it I doubt your young child said that because it said he/him under a name tag. It really doesn’t impact you, no need to put yourself in the centre of everything.

StopitSarah · 19/03/2023 20:29

@TomatoSandwiches but you’d have no idea till you show up. This was a primary age science event. Not to do with gender. At all.

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AnnaBegins · 19/03/2023 20:30

I was asked what my child's pronouns were for an event recently, that was unsettling as she's 3.

StopitSarah · 19/03/2023 20:30

@Albiboba my dc notice a lot of things. Mainly that’s great.

I would argue that the trans activists don’t have to put themselves in the middle of childrens events!

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Chenford · 19/03/2023 20:31

no need to make a big deal of it, no need to out yourself as intolerant.

But it’s ok to be intolerant towards those who are gender critical?

StopitSarah · 19/03/2023 20:31

@AnnaBegins 😬😬😬 It makes children ask the questions they don’t need to ask. Children can be whatever type of girl or boy they want to be. But they are girls or boys.

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StephanieSuperpowers · 19/03/2023 20:32

TomatoSandwiches · 19/03/2023 20:28

If you don't like it refuse to go to events that have this as part of their format.

I mean, a children's science event doesn't scream pronoun indoctrination session - or didn't, until now.

UWhatNow · 19/03/2023 20:33

KrisAkabusi · 19/03/2023 20:26

"Some people prefer to be called she". There you go, a simple answer to your child, no need to make a big deal of it, no need to out yourself as intolerant.

‘Intolerant’? Of what? Facts? Biological truth? Logic? Coherent grammatical language?

🙄 OMFG People cannot change sex. Gender is a social construct based on damaging stereotypes.

Choose what you want to teach your kids - truth or damaging stereotypes?

TomatoSandwiches · 19/03/2023 20:33

Anything linked to a university will have a LGBQT union which will inevitably insist on these measures, it's quite predictable.
You can also leave when you discover something nonsensical that you weren't in the mood to deal with.
Or do not feed the delusional and ignore it, unlike this thread.

Sarahcoggles · 19/03/2023 20:33

Divorcedalongtime · 19/03/2023 20:24

Why does it trigger you so much to give everyone equal opportunities? Why is inclusion a problem? It’s good that children learn this early so they never grow into hating themselves for being different and feeling different.

It's not inclusion. It's fiction. A man is he, a woman is she. Let's not lie to our kids and tell them otherwise.

StopitSarah · 19/03/2023 20:33

I explained to the student I chatted to that my dc’s school is inclusive and kind to everyone but gender critical in their teaching. The student was amazed. It BLOWS MY MIND that anyone would think it’s ok to teach children that people can actually change sex.

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Sarahcoggles · 19/03/2023 20:35

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SinisterKnitter · 19/03/2023 20:35

YANBU.

fairplayforwomen.com/pronouns/

Dacadactyl · 19/03/2023 20:35

I'd have turned round and left.

BadgerFacedCoo · 19/03/2023 20:35

Divorcedalongtime · 19/03/2023 20:24

Why does it trigger you so much to give everyone equal opportunities? Why is inclusion a problem? It’s good that children learn this early so they never grow into hating themselves for being different and feeling different.

Exactly, the sooner these children feel comfortable enough to go against the grain and feel confident with their pronouns and drugs and surgery the better. Can you imagine growing up stuck in a wrong body.

OneFrenchEgg · 19/03/2023 20:36

I don't really have a strong opinion anymore, recently realised there's much shouting either end but a lot of middle ground.
But I just realised that being a trans ally is the only one I can think of where you kind of muddy the waters by declaring yourself; you don't do that for other things do you? Like if I'm a black ally I don't wear a name tag saying white. Maybe because trans is the only one where you change something? I don't know, I'm making no sense.