Preferred pronoun labels at childrens event

[StopitSarah]

I took my primary age children to a science event this weekend. It’s run by university students. Almost all of them had their preferred pronouns on their name labels.

AIBU to feel that was unnecessary and to feel a bit uneasy? One of my children wanted to know why “the man is saying we should say he/him. Isn’t that obvious?”

I asked one of the students who said it was to show support to any trans helpers and was for the benefit of the (adult) students, not the children.

I’m SO BORED and irritated by the trans agenda being every-bloody-where.

But AIBU? I had a good chat with one of the students and he said that they’re all science students and understand that woman = biological female is too simplistic. My brain exploded.

you're only supportive of those who match your ideals. Who are nice and girly, who only behave and feel things the exact same way you dictate they should. Telling my 17 year old self that I shouldn't have been upset. I should have stood up to management and superiors and professors. I should have spoken up in a room of 40 people, as the only girl

Who has said that? You absolutely should not have been put in that position, it was a huge failing of the adults around you, not of you. It's also hard to see how it would have been avoided by pronoun badges, how did no one know you were a girl in any other way? ID, records, surely paperwork of some kind was involved? I don't get how this happened to you, but I haven't seen anyone here blaming you for it.

I'm sorry. Are you accusing me of being a trans woman?? But no, they just thought I was a boy.

Wot, goalposts have moved again?
What about what tea actually said, and what she was referring to?

She was on about being assumed to be a bloke on twitter. So absolutely nothing to do with either pronoun badges or perceptions of femininity. I have no idea what she was on about tbh which is why I am asking what the connection is.

OK< let's take twitter. I don't have my pronouns on twitter. I use handle that is gender-less (that I have used on twitter since 2006, and for 10 years online before that so to me, it's as important as my real name). I get accused, at least weekly, of being a man. "How dare you have opinions on a female issue when you are a man". This very rarely comes from men, but always from those claiming to be feminists. When I have stated I am a woman. When I have opinions they don't agree with

I deliberately have a male-sounding handle on twitter now. I get so much less abuse and unpleasantness. I love it. It's freeing.

Please see my post at 13:11. It won't copy and paste properly. I have explained multiple times why I was posting what I did.

I don't have a child.

Viewpoint that pronoun badges are helpful - accepted. Solidarity.

Viewpoint that pronouns badges are harmful due to x, y and z - not accepted. Slinging Mud. Not a feminist!

More projection.

No one is accusing you of being a trans woman.

Who has said that?
People on this thread!!!
Are people actually reading it, or just pretending not to understand it?!
That its it's nothing, it wouldn't bother them so why should it you, it's your own fault for looking too much like a bloke, what did you expect, suck it up.

Oh no I understand it.

I get upset about loads of things that people mistakenly believe about me as I stated upthread. I have been mistaken as pregnant loads of times but am just fat.

I fail to see why we all need to adhere to an ideology and wear badges in support because some women get upset about being mis sexed.

No one is accusing you of being a trans woman

No, but people are saying that even if you're not trans, they're going to assume you're a trans woman for wearing a badge.
I thought people could always tell sex? That's clearly a load of rubbish then, isn't it.

But that's not what was said.

If Tea wears a badge a person would either take it at face value or the alternative is that they might assume Tea is trans, presumably mostly because it is trans people who are pushing for us all to wear them.

We can all correctly sex another human in the vast majority of cases which is why most people think the badge isn't necessary in the first place.

I could wear a badge saying not pregnant just fat. That might avoid some assumptions and uncomfortable conversations too.

I thought people could always tell sex? That's clearly a load of rubbish then, isn't it.

Women tend to be better at it than men. It's a more crucial survival instinct for us.

No, of course not!
I'm saying a pronoun badge wouldn't actually have helped to clarify if you were male or female. Because transwomen use she/her as well as women.
I'm sorry you went through what you did.

"We can always tell females"
Can ye, aye.

Creme egg I hold you partially responsible for any future are you pregnant comments as your username has led me to reach for a creme egg 😂

Well, to be clear, I for one did not say this.
Women and transwomen both use she/her pronouns so a badge will not tell you if the person wearing it is female or male.
No assumptions made at all.
Exactly the opposite in fact.

Who have you quoted there?

I am confident I could identify a transwoman 10 times out of 10. Like a PP said, probably due to our female instinct and the fact that males don't do looking like a female well (due to the fact they are men).

I'm sorry for the fact that you were failed so badly and that the multiple safeguarding failures, together with your shyness put you at risk.

A badge would not have helped you. And no one has said it's your fault for not dressing in a more feminine way.

And no one has said it's your fault for not dressing in a more feminine way.

A pp more or less did say this unfortunately. A stupid opinion in my view. Women and men should be free to dress any way they please. I hate gender stereotyping, it's one of the reasons I'm GC.

😁

And no one has said it's your fault for not dressing in a more feminine way.

Yes they have

Ok, you're fairly certain you can spot a trans woman.
How about women who aren't trans though?
As some people are clearly still having trouble telling there.

I'm sorry I missed that. That is not remotely a GC view though. It's idiotic I think we can agree on that!

Why would I need to, or care?