Jon Snow on hiring a surrogate in his 70s

[HermioneKipper]

How utterly vile. What a pair of entitled arses. That poor boy.

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YANBU. Appalling. Both the surrogacy and his age. They just bought a baby. 75 and 48.

It's already socially unacceptable. I don't know a lot of people who'll approve of this.

I know someone who became a father a few weeks ago. He's 74. For right or wrong I (and my friends) definitely judged him.

Personally I feel like 50 is a reasonable limit to have children for both men and women. It's at the tail end of natural fertility but not absurdly so. It's young enough to see your children to adulthood, barring an accident (that could happen at any age so irrelevant).

It wouldn't be my choice to have a child this late but I wouldn't condemn it if the parents feel up to it.

Later than 50 is wrong though.

I know someone who became a father a few weeks ago. He's 74. For right or wrong I (and my friends) definitely judged him.

@Jadviga that says more about you and your friends than him. If someone I knew had just had a child I would be thrilled for them and would congratulate them rather than judging them.

It says a lot about you that you think the birth of a child who will lose their father in their early 20s at the latest is a matter for congratulation.

So presumably you would kindly remind them of the possibility that they won’t see their child reach adulthood when your paths cross rather than wishing them well? “I won’t say congratulations because you will be dead before he’s 20, love the name what made you choose that, how’s the wife, how’s he sleeping?”

If his death is the only reason for disapproval we can’t eliminate children experiencing loss whether it’s a parent, pet or relative. A child losing a parent at any age is crap regardless of the age of the child or the parent. Should we stop children building relationships with grandparents too because they’re going to die possibly before the child reaches adulthood?

I’ve never stated that Jon Snow is the perfect age to be having a child but he doesn’t deserve judgement and condemnation for wanting to have a child with the woman he loves just because he’s 70+.

he doesn’t deserve judgement and condemnation for wanting to have a child with the woman he loves just because he’s 70+.

I think he does so we’ll just have to agree to disagree.

Hes already had two children with the woman he loved at the time before trading her in for a younger model.

His child will grow up without a father or his real mother. It’s unimaginably selfish.

I'll judge anyone who thinks that it ethical to commission a baby under contract law, rent a woman's body and then sever the baby from its mother forevermore to serve your own self interest. I think that it is morally bankrupt.

he doesn’t deserve judgement and condemnation for wanting to have a child with the woman he loves just because he’s 70+.

I think he does so we’ll just have to agree to disagree.

I'd condemn it too. There's no thought of what the child needs, just what the parents want.

Agree 100%. Pregnancy is dangerous enough with your own child let alone the additional risks of carrying someone else’s. Women are not incubators. It takes a lot physically, mentally and emotionally to carry a child.