Jon Snow on hiring a surrogate in his 70s

[HermioneKipper]

How utterly vile. What a pair of entitled arses. That poor boy.

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with all due respect do fuck off. My god-daughter was born naturally, her mother was 42 at the time. Stop judging

My cousin had her youngest at 45! Well, so far it's her last.

When you have grandchildren older than your own child that's a bad sign. I really detest when people try to start a family all over again 30 years after they first did. I find it quite disrespectful to the existing children, who I'm sure feel inadequate.

The surrogacy element well I don't need to comment on that!

Eh, considering they had to use a surrogate I would say their biology was telling them that 75 and 48 was past their natural time to have children.

It’s verging in the direction of Handmaid’s Tale in my opinion. I don’t think women’s bodies are commodities.

Eh to you too.

It was in response to this No-one (IMO) should becoming parents past the age of 42

It's selfish as he obviously will definitely not live long enough to see child grow up

How long realistically he has got to live at his age really?

As its not a god given right to procreate

Just cause its obviously natural and its fundamental aspect of life,

Ewww

Being a Grandfather and a father is different

What is a suitable age for a man to become a father?

the Fact they used and paid for a woman’s womb to carry their child is morally dubious. What if the baby was a big baby leading to gestational diabetics? Death during child birth etc etc to put another woman though the unknowns of pregnancy is selfish. I’d carry a baby for a close family member possibly but the potential dangers of pregnancy is too much to ask of someone. No amount of money can be compensation for pregnancy.

Bonkers.

I think anything past 40 is a bit selfish to have a child.

40 is very different from 70.
I bet there are parents on here who are 40+ and 42+, and they are the kind parents @Whatthefnow and @DannyZukosSmile could only dream of being. I salute you whoever you are!

Naff off with your BS troll comments.

Totally selfish . One parent 75 one nearly 50. No child would choose that for themselves .

Loads of people are parents in their 40s

He’s really gone down in my estimation now. Pure entitlement.

Oh yikes,. I meant anything past 50.

I have an aunt who had her last child at 51 naturally and they have a week relationship.

Shame on him.

I’ve give him 10 years of best life. Selfish prick.

“I haven’t found age relevant to my relationship with my son or grandsons. Is being a grandad different to being a dad? Not really. In the end, it’s all love, isn’t it?”

Love is love always means something bad

I think it's bullshit. I believe she's too vain. But easier to "justify" the surrogacy by blaming busy schedules.

I understand there are very serious additional risks if there is no genetic connection between the woman and the foetus, it can cause huge health problems and really reduces the surrogate to the status of an incubator.

I disagree with him (and his wife) on surrogacy and I disagree that being a parent is largely the same as being a grandparent. Children of course need love, but ideally they'd have their parents around for more than a decade. (I know this isn't guaranteed at any age)
His child is very likely to lose their father before they finish school

Happened to my friend, her dad met someone younger and decided to have more kids even though his other kids had long grown up and he was already a grandad. Definitely messed up the dynamics in the family and she really struggled it and the impact it had on their relationship including her own kids (who are older than their uncles and aunt :s )

I know everyone argues that this used to happen all the time in the past but I just think it’s odd in this day and age.

There's a couple that live near me, and the man was only a few years younger than Jon Snow when they had their dd (the woman was only 33 though). At first I thought it was a bit odd but he's very devoted to his dd and does a lot of different activities with her and helps her with her homework and takes her on days out/trips and generally seems to be a lovely father. He's caring and kind to his wife too. Their dd is 7 now and seems a really happy and bubbly little girl. My father was 31 when I was born but was very physically abusive throughout my childhood. He died when I was 30. I know I say this as someone who's had an awful experience but I'd have rather had a loving dad for a decade than a dad who I felt scared of for 30 years, so I think if Jon Snow's family is happy it's lovely for them. I don't really know enough about surrogacy or their circumstances to know if that's right though

The age thing isn’t an issue for me. Tomorrow is promised to no one, whatever their age, after all.
Buying a baby is the issue.

Disgusting. No one “deserves” a baby. They haven’t given a second’s thought to the baby in this, or the surrogate, it’s all about them and what they want. Selfish and entitled.

Completely agree.

Surrogacy is abhorrent in and of itself, then add their ages into that and it's just terrible. Surrogacy should be illegal and this case really shows why.

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