Jon Snow on hiring a surrogate in his 70s

[HermioneKipper]

How utterly vile. What a pair of entitled arses. That poor boy.

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The very definition of entitled.

These sort of threads always bring out the 'but my auntie Fluff, and my great granny Vera had my cousin/my great uncle etc etc at 49/50/52, and lived til 117, so were there til the kids were nearly 70. They had a perfect problem-free pregnancy and an easy birth.' Along with 'no issues with any of the children, and they loved having a wee nipper running around screaming, and all the sleepless nights and shitty nappies, when they were menopausal, and has elderly parents to look after.' La la la la la what fun! 😆

In the REAL world, the vast VAST majority of women - and men - would not dream of having more children past their early 40s.

Why would anyone want a child when they varese drawing a pension, it's so cruel you should ensure you are around until they are 18.

Surrogacy is basically a modern day slave trade.

So he bemoans not having his dad around and now doing the same awful thing to his own child. No fool like an old fool.

Awful on every level. I sometimes worry about how awful it would be if something happened to DH or I when the kids were young, or teens, or even early 20s. He is 75, his son will be 15 when he’s 90, if he lived that long. Selfish doesn’t come close

Can you imagine a woman getting pregnant in her 70s and the outrage directed at her if she did?

It’s also really tough on his kids and grandkids already.

I guess I also can’t understand why on earth a woman of 48 is with someone over 20 years older. But maybe that’s just me!

@DannyZukosSmile This 100%. No-one (IMO) should becoming parents past the age of 42, let alone bloody 75. Acquiring a child at 75, is outrageous and disgusting and cruel. So cruel. Poor child. His wife is nearly 50 FFS! Should be a law to stop this.
Wow. Look at you thinking your opinion is more valid than NATURE. 42???? Most women go through the menopause in their early 50s. We are living longer than ever. But here you are standing on your soap box declaring that no one over 42 should have a child. Get over yourself.

What are people most cross at, that they're elderly parents or that the used a surrogate?
Is it any worse than having a child with a waster with a known history of poor parenting/partnering, when you also haven't the means to provide for your child(ren).

No one forces a woman to become a surrogate. What about your body your choice

christ their all jumping on the bandwagon.
Amazing what money can buy.

Not this old straw man. Surrogacy is buying a child. You cannot sell a 1 year old child - why can you sell a baby?

You cannot sell your kidney - even though it is your kidney in your body.

and perhaps when rich western women start acting as surrogates for poor Indian or Ukrainian women, I’ll believe it is a choice.

Im child free by choice anyway but im 50 this June , DH is 73 No way id do this
even if i wanted kids. Its knackering and more so when older.

There was a thread recently where women aged 49 had conceived naturally.

So wrong and entirely selfish. No one deserves a child, but a child deserves a chance at having its father around for more than a handful of years.

Yep they can fuck right off!

I personally think they're mad at their ages. Even the wife isn't young. They obviously have lots of money so the kids won't go without in terms of finances but they will in terms of longevity of relationships with their parents.

I find the whole surrogacy thing immoral anyway. Rich people buying babies. I've never heard of a 70 plus working class man wanting to have another baby at his age.

How about parents put the child first? Before saying who "deserves" what. Seems to be low down the list; the potential baby.

Biology disagrees

Its one thing having a baby late in life (which is questionable)

But its revolting to have an infant child as well as young grandchildren. Family friend did this and it mentally fucked everyone up. It's far from "its just love, innit." Sibling resentment is hard enough but your life, energy, finances even mother of the baby all changes and creates all sorts of bitterness.

What's wrong at that age with being a good grandad, living a good life and indulging some hobbies? Why have a child to fuck up your existing family and quite likely cause an aching horrendous loss for your child to carry round.

And that's without the many moral problems if surrogacy.

By renting a woman’s body, Jon has gone way down in my esteem.

Surrogacy is mysogyny

You need to start a thread of your own with this - no one will really see it here