To think that "Rehabilitation" is a joke, because you can't change who someone is sexually attracted to!

[BeachBlondey]

Inspired by the Gary Glitter latest story.

Why as a society, can't we accept, that you cannot fundamentally change who someone is sexually attracted to?

For example - no amount of "rehabilitation" will stop paedophiles being attracted to children.

We know that conversion therapy does not work (barbaric!)

Furthermore, you can't read people mind's, and of course they will say that they feel rehabilitated, because they know that this is their key to being released.

Further still, what happens when you ban someone from indulging in their sexual fantasies for years on end? Surely, the amount of sexual frustration and desire will build and build and build.

If a rapist has not had sex with a woman for 10 years, when he is released from prison, isn't he far more likely to be sexually frustrated and thus more likely to attack quite quickly?

If a paedophile hasn't been around children for 10 years, surely the first time he is around children, his sexual urges will go in to overdrive, probably to far more dangerous levels than ever before, because he will have an appetite that has not been sated for decades.

I am a female heterosexual woman, and no amount of "rehabilitation" forced upon me, would make me stop wanting sex with men. Nor would it magically make me fancy women. But, if I was in prison for having sex with a man, of course, I would tell the parole board that I was cured. And I'm sure that having been celibate for 10 years, the first thing I would want to do upon release would be to have sex with a man.

I'm so sick of sex offenders being released, who very quickly go on to reoffend, resulting in some poor innocent person being attacked or killed. We are constantly risking the safety of the public, under the guise of people having been rehabilitated, despite us seeing evidence to the contrary all the time.

When released prisoners reoffend, I would like to see the members of that Parole board penalised, either with being fired from their jobs, or being given monetary fines.

I realise that a big issue is space in prison. We either build more prisons, or consider medical castration maybe? We cannot keep placing the public at risk.

Thoughts aren't usually criminal, actions are.

So op do you think no criminals can be rehabilitated or is this peculiar to paedophiles?

Would you advocate chemical castration or other lifelong punishment for other kinds of sex offenders?

Gary Glitter and his ilk should all lobotomised.

@GarfieldAteTheLasagne, I hope you are OK. X

Oh didums, the poor paedophiles, being stigmatised for getting off on the idea of raping children. Poor little lambs. We should all be grateful to them for not acting on their disgusting abhorrent perversions.

next you’ll be telling us that if we stigmatise the poor paedophiles then it’s our fault when they offend, because if we’d only been nice to them they wouldn’t have felt the need to take solace in raping kids.

yeah, I think I’m done speaking to you now.

how would you feel if this was you?

Most people can control themselves and not do things that cause harm to others most of the time. Rehabilitation works on that basis. Having done something harmful once does not mean you're going to keep on doing it or looking for opportunities. Obviously there are a few who should stay locked up, but they are very much not the majority of offenders.

Well in fairness, paedophiles are all of those things. Because the crime is utterly abhorrent. I don't think it matters that paedophiles who have never offended read this. It will keep the reminder for them, should they ever think about slipping, that this behaviour is never going to be acceptable. And I think a paedophile (even one that has never, to date offended, and tries hard not to offend) does always need to be very very aware of this. The public will never be accepting of this, quite rightly so. And they need to make sure they take every step and remove every temptation to make sure it never does.

@Nimbostratus100 but they are the scum of the Earth. I don't care if they "can't help" how they feel, being attracted to a child when you are an adult is disgusting and monstrous.

I honestly couldn't care less if they are offended by the fact that they are disgusting human beings, I hope they read this.

Paedophilia often manifests at puberty. Would you really tell an 11 year old boy he's the scum of the earth for something he can't control?

Yes

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What? Of course they can. If they couldn’t the streets would be littered with people having sex at all times.
I object to the attempts to normalise paedophilia as a sexual orientation. It’s a perversion.

Put them on SSRIs. They kill all desire stone dead in most cases. Other drugs do the same. Keep them on strict curfew via GPS. Restrict their internet access etc.

I mean, it’s unlikely an 11 year old would tell you they are fantasising about having sex with children, and quite frankly any disclosure of sexual interest at all from an 11 year old should be flagged as a safeguarding issue as it would be quite likely they were being exposed/subjected to highly inappropriate sexual content or behaviour.

Yes, though, it would be very important to ensure that a pubertal child knows that sexual activity with children is very wrong and would incur serious punishments if they were caught participating in any such behaviour, but I would also hope they would be subject to serious therapy and exploration as to why they are having these thoughts, although sadly, I have little faith that they would.

I think the 11 year old boy needs to understand the strength of feeling about this, and how acting on this desire is absolutely abhorrent. And while you're worrying about the 11 year boy, spare a thought for the potentially 4 year old child who might be the unwilling recipient of the 11 year olds desires.

If I woke up tomorrow somehow attracted to the idea of raping children, I wouldn’t need anyone else help to prevent it.

I’d find a nice high bridge.

Anyone remotely decent would.

Do what the Americans do with people who continually offend. These men serve their sentence but are not released. Instead they are sent to another facility. I suppose it's a kind of prison in that men cannot leave but thus prison has a library, sports hall, televisions and considerable freedom of movement inside. hobby rooms, swimming pools too, I think.
It's an improvement on letting them out to prey on others.

And how do you think victims of these abusers feel when they read comments like yours, or does that not matter?

no, people cannot control their sexual urges. They can control whether or not they act on them

Nobody reading this has been the victim of a paedophile who has never acted on their urges, never offended and never hurt anyone

@Feelinadequate23 I'm 💯with you when you state that the rights of innocent people should be placed above the rights of violent attackers.

So? I think you miss the point. You’re painting someone with these thoughts as some kind of vulnerable victim of their own mind that needs support. Support that is rarely afforded to victims, especially once they’re adults. As someone who has been abused and knows how it impacts your whole life, it’s pretty repulsive to me that you would have any sympathy for people who get off on the thought of raping a child or baby to be honest.

What do you think of the ones who have never abused a child, but purchases one of those baby rape dolls the perverts sell?

Tough. They should consider that before they rape women and children.

so what about the rest of your life? Are you a good daughter, mother, partner, employee, employer, volunteer, friend?

Are you good at sport? successful academically? politically active?

And if you realised you had paedophilic feelings, which, by the way, could happen to you in the near future, the only option you could see as available to you would be suicide?

And not only that, you would feel "anyone decent would" - would that be the same if it was your child? Your sister?

Can't you understand how distressing these feelings are, people don't chose to have them, they don't control them, and yet other people are telling them that even if they have never harmed anyone, their only "decent" action is suicide