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To think there should be a higher minimum age for face tattoos

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salutsandy · 15/03/2023 13:19

I think a face tattoo is such a huge decision that there should be a higher minimum age, say 25 or 30, for this. AIBU?

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pointythings · 15/03/2023 14:20

If we're going by brain maturity then we should raise the age for everything to 25 - voting, getting married, joining the military, drinking alcohol, driving. Anyone up for that? I'm not.

lovedive · 15/03/2023 14:23

pointythings · 15/03/2023 14:20

If we're going by brain maturity then we should raise the age for everything to 25 - voting, getting married, joining the military, drinking alcohol, driving. Anyone up for that? I'm not.

Wonderful idea lol

mumto2teenagers · 15/03/2023 14:23

I don't really see why face tattoos should have a higher age limit than other decisions.

Suggesting face tattoos should be illegal seems crazy to me. Some people like them and some don't but I cannot think of any reason why they should be illegal.

FlightyFoxing · 15/03/2023 14:23

This all pisses me off.

I have many tattoos. Not face tattoos, but many body parts.

I don't care if other people don't like tattoos. You are not required to have one.

I hate the look of boob jobs, fake tans, lip fillers, etc. but it's none of my business if other people like them and choose to have them.

I work for a "Big 5" company. Not customer facing, but I work for them and have done for years. My tattoos have never been a barrier. Many people I work with have tattoos. One of our ADs has both sleeves.

Stay out of other peoples business.

TrashyPanda · 15/03/2023 14:25

pointythings · 15/03/2023 14:20

If we're going by brain maturity then we should raise the age for everything to 25 - voting, getting married, joining the military, drinking alcohol, driving. Anyone up for that? I'm not.

Plus compulsory contraception for all under 25, because their brains aren’t developed enough to care for a child properly

oh, wait a minute - that would be mad, wouldn’t it?

Whatwouldscullydo · 15/03/2023 14:27

pointythings · 15/03/2023 14:20

If we're going by brain maturity then we should raise the age for everything to 25 - voting, getting married, joining the military, drinking alcohol, driving. Anyone up for that? I'm not.

I work in retail. I've been in the same job for nearly 20 years now. The amount of responsibility for the decisions of grown adults that is placed on us has greatly increased over the past few years.

Either as you say the age if everything needs to be increased or I dunno , some personal responsibility needs to be taken. I've been shouted at fir doing my job ( requesting ID for example) and I've also been screamed at for the results of said poor choices of grown adults who are older than me and should have known.better and ignored all opportunities to make a better decision.

salutsandy · 15/03/2023 14:28

If we're going by brain maturity then we should raise the age for everything to 25 - voting, getting married, joining the military, drinking alcohol, driving. Anyone up for that? I'm not.

Me neither. Not comparable is it because face tattoos are a permanent lifelong thing.

I work for a "Big 5" company. Not customer facing, but I work for them and have done for years. My tattoos have never been a barrier. Many people I work with have tattoos. One of our ADs has both sleeves.

It's normal now for many people to have tattoos. But how many employees have face tattoos? I wouldn't be happy if one of my dcs got a face tattoo at 18

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cilllla · 15/03/2023 14:31

I actually think it's good that people are free to do stupid things (that don't harm others) if they wish...

If the state attempted to baby us and stop us doing anything we might regret in future, how else would we learn to exercise our personal judgement?

I also tend to think that common sense is declining. Use it or lose it! Less state-sponsored nannying now could help ensure that future generations aren't such ninnies.

MistressoftheDarkSide · 15/03/2023 14:31

Regretting a decision made in one's rash youth and dealing with it down the line is part of learning and growing. The world is ever more complex and our aggressively capitalist system thrives on coming up with new ways to scratch our itches and parting us from our money.

Better that professionals exist to safely facilitate our rash decisions than people butcher themselves and risk even greater issues down the line.

I know a lot of heavily tattooed and modded people. Some are very successful in that industry, and take their ethical responsibility very seriously. Some are in other types of business and successful.

I also know someone who specialises in tattoo removal.

At the end of the day it's an industry like any other. If the stigma didn't exist, neither would the necessity of removal perhaps?

My late DP was a body piercer for 30 years and considered a pioneer in the field so I've had plenty of discussions about all of this. People going through rehab or mental health treatment often had to have their multiple piercings removed as part of the process, and not because of safety issues. After treatment they'd be back for more because it was part of their identity.

I say horses for courses.

And again, if someone regrets a facial tattoo down the line, it's part of their journey to deal with it - their responsibility.

If you block getting it done professionally, then risks are run by doing it in an amateur fashion and it won't look remotely attractive and will more likely be a bigger problem.

So the next step is to make it illegal for people to have a facial tattoo up to a certain age, which of course will lead to people being criminalised for the way they look.

Can of authoritarian worms indeed because where would it stop?

tigger1001 · 15/03/2023 14:32

salutsandy · 15/03/2023 14:28

If we're going by brain maturity then we should raise the age for everything to 25 - voting, getting married, joining the military, drinking alcohol, driving. Anyone up for that? I'm not.

Me neither. Not comparable is it because face tattoos are a permanent lifelong thing.

I work for a "Big 5" company. Not customer facing, but I work for them and have done for years. My tattoos have never been a barrier. Many people I work with have tattoos. One of our ADs has both sleeves.

It's normal now for many people to have tattoos. But how many employees have face tattoos? I wouldn't be happy if one of my dcs got a face tattoo at 18

The thing is either at 18 your are an adult or not. We can't say "well you are an adult for xyz but not abc).

And joining the army, for example can be life altering - and sadly for some life ending. Same with drinking alcohol- can be life altering for some too.

Whatwouldscullydo · 15/03/2023 14:33

Me neither. Not comparable is it because face tattoos are a permanent lifelong thing

Marriage should certainly not be seen as insignificant even though its reversible so to speak. And driving, well if you have an accident and hurt yourself or someone else then I'd say the effects are pretty life long.

Maybe this is a factor? The fact that many big decisions and practices like the military and driving are not seen as significant enough. If everything is reversible or you can just quit/give up, change mind so easily then where does anyone get the practice of making really significant life changing decisions?

Logicoutofthewindow · 15/03/2023 14:35

I don't like them but I think it's up to other adults to decide what is right for them.

I don't like any tattoos but again it's up to the individual

Duckingella · 15/03/2023 14:36

GoodChat · 15/03/2023 13:38

They should be illegal. I don't see a benefit of a face tattoo.

Completely agree;my cousin has several on her face and they look awful

Untitledsquatboulder · 15/03/2023 14:38

Either you are an adult or you're not. If you can fight and die for your country at 18 you can choose how to decorate your body.

PurplePositivity · 15/03/2023 14:38

roarfeckingroarr · 15/03/2023 13:43

Yes. 90.

With both parents present Grin

Topolle · 15/03/2023 14:39

Then from the age of say 45 onwards its early onset dementia/autism/alzeimers etc

Early onset autism 🤔

I think 18 is fine, unless as others said were going to bump up other things like military age, which can have life long consequences too.

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RelapsedChocoholic · 15/03/2023 14:40

I would never choose to have a face tattoo, and haven’t seen one on anyone else I thought looked good but…

The thought process behind limiting someone else in what they can choose to do to their body just because we wouldn’t choose it for ours is a slippery slope we should not start down.

GoodChat · 15/03/2023 14:41

Topolle · 15/03/2023 14:39

Then from the age of say 45 onwards its early onset dementia/autism/alzeimers etc

Early onset autism 🤔

I think 18 is fine, unless as others said were going to bump up other things like military age, which can have life long consequences too.

You know they didn't mean early onset autism.
They clearly meant people use autism/early onset dementia or Alzheimer's as automatic reasoning.

ComtesseDeSpair · 15/03/2023 14:41

Duckingella · 15/03/2023 14:36

Completely agree;my cousin has several on her face and they look awful

But ultimately, even if “looking awful” was an objective standard, consenting adults with capacity have the right to choose whether they want to look awful. I think many things people do to themselves make a person look less attractive than they could be. Fortunately for the people who have those traits, my thoughts are not an objective standard.

FlightyFoxing · 15/03/2023 14:42

"I work for a "Big 5" company. Not customer facing, but I work for them and have done for years. My tattoos have never been a barrier. Many people I work with have tattoos. One of our ADs has both sleeves.

It's normal now for many people to have tattoos. But how many employees have face tattoos? I wouldn't be happy if one of my dcs got a face tattoo at 18"

None have face tattoos to be fair. Though I have finger tattoos and another couple people have neck tattoos. Who cares? I'm very good at my job. Do you judge people having horrible cosmetic surgery in the same way? Or teenagers who have children too young and are shit parents?

salutsandy · 15/03/2023 14:44

The thought process behind limiting someone else in what they can choose to do to their body just because we wouldn’t choose it for ours is a slippery slope we should not start down.

But there's a difference between saying don't have them at all and saying wait till 25 for face ones, by that time you'd have had experience of job interviews relationships, a bit more life experience.

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Topolle · 15/03/2023 14:44

GoodChat · 15/03/2023 14:41

You know they didn't mean early onset autism.
They clearly meant people use autism/early onset dementia or Alzheimer's as automatic reasoning.

No i didn't know that, they said from 45 onwards and bunched it in with dementia and alzamias.

salutsandy · 15/03/2023 14:45

None have face tattoos to be fair. Though I have finger tattoos and another couple people have neck tattoos. Who cares? I'm very good at my job. Do you judge people having horrible cosmetic surgery in the same way? Or teenagers who have children too young and are shit parents?

No - why would I judge in those ways? don't see how teen pregnancy is relevant. I think anyway cosmetic surgeons have some guidelines about people who might have MH issues having surgery. I do think tattooists should have guidelines about face tattoos.

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GoAgainstNicki · 15/03/2023 14:47

People can join the army at whatever age but you should have to wait until 25 to get a face tattoo? Okay😂

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