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Fed up with cracking the Enigma code on threads

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Lovefilms · 14/03/2023 08:22

Does anyone else get fed up with people writing posts with so many confusing abbreviations on here . I’m fed up with them . Can people not just write in English . Even common ones like dh ? Is that direct husband , dickhead husband , dead husband ?? Drives me nuts . Just put husband . There’s loads .
ds , dh, dm , nc , lc , and on and on and on . Even read one today that was gsd ? I thought I’d that a good short dance , or gravy so divine, no it’s what German Shepherd dog 😂😂
Just write English for Christ sake .
Ps I’ve put this on the AIBU page , know idea what it means !

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Pemba · 14/03/2023 18:20

Yes but the thing is that some of these acronyms are ambiguous, like DD or DS, and some appear to have been made up on the spot by the OP.

NameThenChange · 14/03/2023 20:36

takealettermsjones · 14/03/2023 08:59

The one that makes me laugh (after hanging out in the conception boards) is that CM can be either childminder or cervical mucus 😂

🤣

NameThenChange · 14/03/2023 20:39

"And yet you use an abbreviation..."

JFC 🙈

NameThenChange · 14/03/2023 20:41

BitOutOfPractice · 14/03/2023 09:22

Good god don’t all start writing “hubby”. It mskes me murderous / bilious by turns.

U OK Hun? 💖

NameThenChange · 14/03/2023 20:44

"Dear Husband (or any of the others, dear daughter in your example) is a phrase though?"

@ItsCalledAConversation but DD or DH don't make a word do they?
Like NASA /AIDS etc....

NameThenChange · 14/03/2023 20:45

ClairDeLaLune · 14/03/2023 09:37

Well clearly GSD is going to be a dog and not something about gravy or dances 🤷‍♀️ I hate dogs but I’d managed to figure that one out. You’re being deliberately obtuse there. For the rest - look them up.

I worked out that AS must mean adult son in the context of that very sad thread.

Gorgeous Step Dog???

NameThenChange · 14/03/2023 20:46

Octopusmittens · 14/03/2023 09:44

You are not being unreasonable opening poster.

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PearlClutzsche · 15/03/2023 07:40

Well I much prefer the usual acronyms/initialisms to “sitch” which I have read on here 4 times on here since yesterday, having never come across it before.
It’s short for “situation”, apparently (except it’s not) but it just makes the writer seem a bit stupid, and as if they’re trying to be cool.

I imagine it’s used by the same people who used to use “natch” which was(n’t) short for naturally.

SoupDragon · 15/03/2023 07:50

NameThenChange · 14/03/2023 20:46

Original Post

Or Original Poster.

SoupDragon · 15/03/2023 07:51

NameThenChange · 14/03/2023 20:45

Gorgeous Step Dog???

German Shepherd Dog. That isn't a MN one.

Tiredalwaystired · 15/03/2023 07:55

00100001 · 14/03/2023 13:24

Majority of forums use the same acronyms, so how is it cliquey?

If you’re a new user it’s cliquey. The very definition of cliquey is having any sort of code where some are in the know and some aren’t. it’s cliquey “seasoned user” speak for any forum. You’re not inherently born understanding it.

It takes hard work to unpick it.

Tiredalwaystired · 15/03/2023 07:56

SoupDragon · 15/03/2023 07:50

Or Original Poster.

See I ALWAYS thought that meant Other Parent.

SoupDragon · 15/03/2023 08:03

Tiredalwaystired · 15/03/2023 07:55

If you’re a new user it’s cliquey. The very definition of cliquey is having any sort of code where some are in the know and some aren’t. it’s cliquey “seasoned user” speak for any forum. You’re not inherently born understanding it.

It takes hard work to unpick it.

That isn't the definition of cliquey which just relates to an "exclusive group of people". Otherwise existing workers in a new job would be "cliquey" amongst many other normal situations.

SoupDragon · 15/03/2023 08:05

No "clique" would publish a list explaining the "code" for a start.

Fed up with cracking the Enigma code on threads
butterup · 15/03/2023 08:11

Can someone explain how the DH thing started though? I'm not from the UK but would it not be immensely annoying if someone was incapable of naming a relation without shoving cringey affectionate terms in front?

My dear, darling hubby! My darling mother! The darling principal! The dear, darling step niece twice removed of my gardener's son!

Or is that socially acceptable in the UK? Personally I would not want to have a conversation with anyone who's like that

00100001 · 15/03/2023 08:41

butterup · 15/03/2023 08:11

Can someone explain how the DH thing started though? I'm not from the UK but would it not be immensely annoying if someone was incapable of naming a relation without shoving cringey affectionate terms in front?

My dear, darling hubby! My darling mother! The darling principal! The dear, darling step niece twice removed of my gardener's son!

Or is that socially acceptable in the UK? Personally I would not want to have a conversation with anyone who's like that

It's only ever used in internet forums. Not in real life.

It predates MN , it's not exclusive to this site, despite some people thinking it is Confused

Apparently goes back to 1990s and is quite common all over the internet.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dear_husband

MasterBeth · 15/03/2023 10:02

SoupDragon · 15/03/2023 07:51

German Shepherd Dog. That isn't a MN one.

It doesn't really matter if it's Mumsnet-exclusive or not. If someone starts talking about a GSD, it's impenetrable jargon unless you've come across it before, and most Mumsnet posters will not spend their time on dog-owner sites where, presumably, it's used.

It's the same when people use abbreviations to define their medical conditions, their jobs or anything else which might make sense in context. You can't just drop abbreviations into a conversation and expect people to know them.

MasterBeth · 15/03/2023 10:03

00100001 · 14/03/2023 13:24

Majority of forums use the same acronyms, so how is it cliquey?

It is absurd to think that the majority of foums use the Mumsnet abbreviations. Maybe the majority of parenting forums that you read. But that will in no way be the majority of forums.

MotherOfHouseplants · 15/03/2023 10:10

I have no idea why folk are getting cross about this. All humans use sociolects. It is one of the main ways in which we use language to foster a sense of belonging and it is just as common in real life as it is online. Think of runners comparing their PBs or knitters complaining that they need to frog their last ten rows because they made a mistake.

Cornettoninja · 15/03/2023 10:32

You’re not obliged to communicate using abbreviations but you can’t police whole communities of people who have adopted them into common usage. If you really can’t cope with it it’s on you to either learn it or disengage with the community that uses them.

It’s just language, if you don’t like slang you don’t have to use it but it’s going to limit your interactions with teenagers (for instance) and their zeitgeist if you choose to not at least understand it.

It’s ridiculous to brand it as ‘cliquey’. It’s just not, no more than someone using a word unfamiliar to your personal vocabulary. It’s easily decoded/looked up and not any sort of ‘in joke’.

MissHavishamsMouldyOldCake · 15/03/2023 10:37

butterup · 15/03/2023 08:11

Can someone explain how the DH thing started though? I'm not from the UK but would it not be immensely annoying if someone was incapable of naming a relation without shoving cringey affectionate terms in front?

My dear, darling hubby! My darling mother! The darling principal! The dear, darling step niece twice removed of my gardener's son!

Or is that socially acceptable in the UK? Personally I would not want to have a conversation with anyone who's like that

it can also be damned husband, dickhead husband, any other d you like.

I don't know why people fixate on this so much.

Honeyroar · 15/03/2023 10:49

MasterBeth · 15/03/2023 10:03

It is absurd to think that the majority of foums use the Mumsnet abbreviations. Maybe the majority of parenting forums that you read. But that will in no way be the majority of forums.

I agree, I’ve never been on another forum that used them. Perhaps it’s just for mumsy types? You certainly don’t see it on any of the animal care forums I use. I can’t imagine motorbike forums using them, or stamp collectors etc! 🤣 So to the person that asked us it normal in British society- no it’s not.

SoupDragon · 15/03/2023 10:49

MasterBeth · 15/03/2023 10:03

It is absurd to think that the majority of foums use the Mumsnet abbreviations. Maybe the majority of parenting forums that you read. But that will in no way be the majority of forums.

They aren't MN abbreviations. Which has been explained many, many times.

Amispringy · 15/03/2023 10:54

butterup · 15/03/2023 08:11

Can someone explain how the DH thing started though? I'm not from the UK but would it not be immensely annoying if someone was incapable of naming a relation without shoving cringey affectionate terms in front?

My dear, darling hubby! My darling mother! The darling principal! The dear, darling step niece twice removed of my gardener's son!

Or is that socially acceptable in the UK? Personally I would not want to have a conversation with anyone who's like that

It's written shorthand. You don't say it IRL

unlike hubby 🤢. I wouldn't ever have a conversation with an adult who thought that was acceptable 🤷🏻‍♀️

SoupDragon · 15/03/2023 10:59

MasterBeth · 15/03/2023 10:02

It doesn't really matter if it's Mumsnet-exclusive or not. If someone starts talking about a GSD, it's impenetrable jargon unless you've come across it before, and most Mumsnet posters will not spend their time on dog-owner sites where, presumably, it's used.

It's the same when people use abbreviations to define their medical conditions, their jobs or anything else which might make sense in context. You can't just drop abbreviations into a conversation and expect people to know them.

it's no different to using words that not everyone understands. You might use technical language that not everyone understands to describe something for example. It's no different to real life.

I don't know why people make such a fuss or make it out to be some big problem. It's hardly aerospace engineering and astrodynamics.