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Disastrous holiday let - AIBU?

165 replies

ivygem · 09/03/2023 18:23

Sorry this is long! Just don’t want to drip feed later on. Basically I’m trying to get some perspective please after a disastrous weekend away for a big birthday (mums not mine).

Myself, DH and DD stayed in a fairly large holiday let at the weekend with around 6 other family members including my sister and her new baby. It was a oldish farmhouse that had gone through some redesign etc. over the years in a semi remote farm location. The place was booked by my sister but paid in full by my mum at her request.

My DH and DD left on Sunday due to school and work commitments and I stayed on. Her room was next to ours and I stripped the bed and tidied it out after she left at around 6pm.

On our final night, on my mums actual birthday, I awoke to a loud noise next door (in my DD’s ex room) that sounded like someone was using the shower at around 2am. After some blearly eyed tossing and turning thinking I was delirious I finally investigated and discovered a huge flood in the room coming from the en suite and I immediately ran off to get help. As I went to wake others I discovered a similar noise downstairs - and unsurprisingly found water pouring from the kitchen ceiling. It was actually a shocking amount of damage in a short time with the floor of the large kitchen swimming in about an inch of water. I immediately tried phoning the number left in the ‘house manual’ left by the owners - it was out of date and not in use. My sister then had to search her phone for the number in the booking. Luckily someone answered and they informed us someone would be with us fairly quickly. While we were waiting the electricity tripped and needless to say we were all terrified. My sister packed up her room in case we had to leave (she had the new baby) and we all followed suit. After waiting a while for everything to be brought to some sort of order (the person that was sent spent some time drying out the kitchen with blankets and towels) we were told ‘it was fine’ and we could stay. At this point it was nearly 4am and we were exhausted so we agreed to get some rest and all went to sleep fully clothed, all half terrified that we would need to leave. We awoke early the next morning ans found the electrics downstairs still off and the central heating off. We also found several items that had been damaged including some baby items that upset my sister (think sentimental value not monetary). It was a pretty grim scene. We packed up fairly quickly, with my mum hanging about to speak to someone. No one came or called so she left eventually. We have since contacted the owners to discuss what happened and to talk about what compensation we should expect. We heard nothing so contacted the booking company directly and unsurprisingly my sister received an odd phone call from the owner later the next evening - where they outlined personal mental health issues(?) and suggested we could book in the future at another of their 12 properties for a reduced fee…

Here’s the issue. Myself and others, my mum included, feel given the nature of what happened my mum should pursue a full refund for our whole stay. Other family members feel that’s too much and perhaps she should go after a partial refund, move on ans organise something else at a later date.

A part of me wants to forget the whole ordeal but it was pretty traumatic and I feel like my mum deserves a proper birthday.

AIBU?

YABU - forget it - persuade mum to move on and take a partial refund/ what’s offered. It’s a small business/act of god, these things happen.
YANBU - this is mental - full refund.

Thanks for sticking with it!

OP posts:
TrashyPanda · 09/03/2023 18:26

I thought you were going to say you/your family had caused the flood!

that really oils have been disastrous.

ivygem · 09/03/2023 18:28

My first thought was that my DD did somehow but we definitely didn’t!

OP posts:
TheFlis12345 · 09/03/2023 18:28

What caused the flood?

HearMeSnore · 09/03/2023 18:29

Yikes! That sounds horrendous - I'm sorry to hear you had such a shocking time.

Personally I'd advise against pursuing a partial refund, purely because we recently did that after a disappointing stay in a caravan park where just about everything went wrong and it turned into a stressful 6 month long battle of wills.

If they're offering a deal on another stay somewhere else I think I'd go down that route. But I think the least they could do is offer a free stay, not just a discount!

whatadayforadaydream · 09/03/2023 18:31

I think it’s cheeky asking for a full refund. If you ask for a refund it should be for the time your trip was cut short+ the night in question.

just be really certain you didn’t cause it.

cardibach · 09/03/2023 18:31

I don’t understand why you’re were ‘terrified’ you would have to leave. There was a bit of a flood. Regrettable, but nobody’s fault. Once the flood had been stopped and you had gone back to bed, why were you terrified?
As to the refund, I thin’ it’s probably ok to ask for the money back for the portion of the stay when you couldn’t use the property properly - the owner will be having the expense of repair and cancelling other bookings so I don’t thin’ it would be reasonable to ask for a refund of the perfectly fine portion of your stay.

helpfulperson · 09/03/2023 18:32

I can understand that it was a difficult experience but what would you have done if it had happened at home. Did you try and find the stopcock and turn that off or any other action?

I would expect any damaged personal items to be covered by insurance depending on the booking conditions and perhaps a refund of the equivalent of one night rental.

MoneyInTheBananaStand · 09/03/2023 18:32

I think a refund for the day it flooded would be the minimum I would accept. Anything more than that I would be happy.

piedbeauty · 09/03/2023 18:34

The flood was on your FINAL NIGHT. I'd ask for compensation for the day in which you were affected. Not the rest of the stay. That's greedy.

Why on earth are you terrified??

whatadayforadaydream · 09/03/2023 18:34

Also don’t get the being terrified. Ott

ivygem · 09/03/2023 18:35

cardibach · 09/03/2023 18:31

I don’t understand why you’re were ‘terrified’ you would have to leave. There was a bit of a flood. Regrettable, but nobody’s fault. Once the flood had been stopped and you had gone back to bed, why were you terrified?
As to the refund, I thin’ it’s probably ok to ask for the money back for the portion of the stay when you couldn’t use the property properly - the owner will be having the expense of repair and cancelling other bookings so I don’t thin’ it would be reasonable to ask for a refund of the perfectly fine portion of your stay.

I think it’s pretty scary to be in an unknown property in the middle of the night which had a major flood! Especially as the electric downstairs had already tripped.

We couldn’t locate the stop cock despite looking in the dark and the person sent to help couldn’t either, they managed to stop the water at its source under the en-suite sink.

OP posts:
Sirzy · 09/03/2023 18:35

Assuming it wasn’t caused by one of your party leaving something running I wokld ask for 50% back then be willing accept one nights worth

piedbeauty · 09/03/2023 18:35

And 'a grim scene? Traumatic?' 🙄

Give your head a wobble, op.

growgrowinggrown · 09/03/2023 18:36

You were all genuinely terrified? Bit of an exaggeration there I think.
I would be worried that the cause was me and they would be pursuing me for damages in this instance, not seeing how much money I could claim back!
Is this something you can look into via holiday insurance?

Given it happened in the early hours and you were leaving the following morning it hasn't really ruined the trip, how you handle it and your attitude afterwards will determine if this is something to laugh about in the future or not.

BiscuitBandit32 · 09/03/2023 18:37

You should be refunded for the night in question and any time that was cut short. You don't get a refund for the full holiday that's ludicrous. Also.i think saying you were "terrified" and it was "traumatic" is a bit much. Things happen. Its shit but don't be dramatic, and rinsing the business owners dry isn't going to make you feel any better.

whatadayforadaydream · 09/03/2023 18:37

Also if you do ask for a refund I’d tone down the dramatics. You are going to come across as ridiculous which will distract from your argument.

IWIllDoItNowInAMinute · 09/03/2023 18:37

The damage to your family’s items warrants some sort of compensation, but as it was the final night I don’t think I would have even thought to demand my money back for the stay in that situation.

Auntpodder · 09/03/2023 18:39

How much of the break had occurred before the flood? The agents/owners are likely to calculate any refund on that basis. The flood sounds horrible but it’s also arguable that you’d a nice time until that point and none of you came to physical harm etc - and that’s what the owners will use as their argument. I’ve got some experience here - as such I think a full refund is unlikely.

InfluencerHag · 09/03/2023 18:39

Surely you should only be refunded for the final night when this happened?

Notimeforaname · 09/03/2023 18:41

"Terrified" "traumatic "...seriously? It was a flood.. It was on your last night so I'm guessing youd had the birthday celebrations? Partial refund is absolutely fine.

Woolandwonder · 09/03/2023 18:41

I think it would be reasonable for them to refund one night of your stay. I think a full refund would be excessive..

5oclockclub · 09/03/2023 18:41

Oh the drama! Terrified of what exactly? It was your last night why should you be refunded the whole holiday? Imagine the cost to the owners to repair and floods don’t just happen out of nowhere …

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FlounderingFruitcake · 09/03/2023 18:42

I’d want a refund for that night plus whatever it’ll cost to sort the damaged items. I’m struggling to think of what items for a newborn would be damaged beyond repair by water given that most stuff for babies is washable for obvious reasons, but if there is anything that is a genuine write off then you deserve to be compensated. Anything more is taking the piss, you had a nice time up until then plus you’ll be laughing about it at every one of mum’s birthdays to come!

Barnowl25 · 09/03/2023 18:42

How did the flood start? Did a pipe burst? Or did someone leave a tap on?

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