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Disastrous holiday let - AIBU?

165 replies

ivygem · 09/03/2023 18:23

Sorry this is long! Just don’t want to drip feed later on. Basically I’m trying to get some perspective please after a disastrous weekend away for a big birthday (mums not mine).

Myself, DH and DD stayed in a fairly large holiday let at the weekend with around 6 other family members including my sister and her new baby. It was a oldish farmhouse that had gone through some redesign etc. over the years in a semi remote farm location. The place was booked by my sister but paid in full by my mum at her request.

My DH and DD left on Sunday due to school and work commitments and I stayed on. Her room was next to ours and I stripped the bed and tidied it out after she left at around 6pm.

On our final night, on my mums actual birthday, I awoke to a loud noise next door (in my DD’s ex room) that sounded like someone was using the shower at around 2am. After some blearly eyed tossing and turning thinking I was delirious I finally investigated and discovered a huge flood in the room coming from the en suite and I immediately ran off to get help. As I went to wake others I discovered a similar noise downstairs - and unsurprisingly found water pouring from the kitchen ceiling. It was actually a shocking amount of damage in a short time with the floor of the large kitchen swimming in about an inch of water. I immediately tried phoning the number left in the ‘house manual’ left by the owners - it was out of date and not in use. My sister then had to search her phone for the number in the booking. Luckily someone answered and they informed us someone would be with us fairly quickly. While we were waiting the electricity tripped and needless to say we were all terrified. My sister packed up her room in case we had to leave (she had the new baby) and we all followed suit. After waiting a while for everything to be brought to some sort of order (the person that was sent spent some time drying out the kitchen with blankets and towels) we were told ‘it was fine’ and we could stay. At this point it was nearly 4am and we were exhausted so we agreed to get some rest and all went to sleep fully clothed, all half terrified that we would need to leave. We awoke early the next morning ans found the electrics downstairs still off and the central heating off. We also found several items that had been damaged including some baby items that upset my sister (think sentimental value not monetary). It was a pretty grim scene. We packed up fairly quickly, with my mum hanging about to speak to someone. No one came or called so she left eventually. We have since contacted the owners to discuss what happened and to talk about what compensation we should expect. We heard nothing so contacted the booking company directly and unsurprisingly my sister received an odd phone call from the owner later the next evening - where they outlined personal mental health issues(?) and suggested we could book in the future at another of their 12 properties for a reduced fee…

Here’s the issue. Myself and others, my mum included, feel given the nature of what happened my mum should pursue a full refund for our whole stay. Other family members feel that’s too much and perhaps she should go after a partial refund, move on ans organise something else at a later date.

A part of me wants to forget the whole ordeal but it was pretty traumatic and I feel like my mum deserves a proper birthday.

AIBU?

YABU - forget it - persuade mum to move on and take a partial refund/ what’s offered. It’s a small business/act of god, these things happen.
YANBU - this is mental - full refund.

Thanks for sticking with it!

OP posts:
TheSerenDipitY · 10/03/2023 08:52

a refund for the last night, if it wasnt caused by your group
my son flooded my laundry a couple of weeks ago, fully flooded, the water was an inch deep, flowed into the hall, under two walls in to my sons bedroom and the toilet.... know what i did when i walked in the house and stepped in the inche deep water? i calmly stepped in to the laundry and stopped the washing machine, unblocked the sink and found my son and said you did a bad bad thing... we then got every single towel in the house and mopped up the water and turned on the dehumidifier .... we didnt panic and freak out, we just got to work , didnt even wake up the husband from his nap, didnt need to frantically call ppl to fix it, didnt need to pack, all we needed to do was more washing and drying... be calm , be sensible and work.... bless your heart

Kittenmitten22 · 10/03/2023 08:52

Sure. A very crappy experience yes, traumatising... hmm? Not so sure. The last day of her holiday ruined. The rest of it fine. Refund for the ruined day only would suffice.

2bazookas · 10/03/2023 08:54

You had the full stay, the incident was during the last night, handled as well as possible by owner, you left the next morning exaxtly as planned. What CF's to try and claim a total refund!

All you suffered was a broken nights sleep ; the owner sent help in the middle of a Saturday night, who dried up the kitchen floor so you could access it for breakfast/to collect your items from the kitchen.

What "baby items" were so damaged by water that they couldn't be washed and dried?

WiIson · 10/03/2023 08:55

I don't think it's reasonable to ask for a refund for the whole stay. Yes for the day you missed. Maybe a little extra as compensation. But the whole stay sounds greedy and trying to take advantage to me.

StoppinBy · 10/03/2023 08:55

If this is traumatic to you then you've lived a pretty charmed life.

I would accept either a free stay for a couple of nights at another property or a reasonable refund somewhere between one night and half the total cost.

I don't think one night is really fair given the damaged items and the major disruption on the night.

LindorDoubleChoc · 10/03/2023 08:59

Horrible experience. I'm sure it was bloody scary - always would be where water and electrics are concerned and especially so in in the middle of the night in a strange house.

The people who are taking the piss out of you being scared on this thread are just twits OP, take no notice.

I would push for full refund but probably accept if they offer a third or half off.

scoobydoo1971 · 10/03/2023 09:06

I run holiday lets, and we try to make guests have a nice stay. Unfortunately so called acts of God happen in properties upon occasion. It sounds like a burst pipe. Unforeseen by the holiday owner but probably covered by good letting insurance. Read your booking form terms and conditions. A wise holiday landlord will have inserted a clause refusing full refunds for property related events outside their control. You maybe able to claim for baby items, but again the booking form may state that you should have travel insurance for personal property in place. Ours does. It sounds like the landlord acted reasonably by getting someone to attend at night. This is a business and landlords are reliant on bookings to pay their bills. If you had turned up and the accommodation had been unfit to occupy on the first day, then you would be entitled to claim a full refund. However, if this went to small claims court, it would be pointed out that you 'enjoyed' some of your holiday without the leak.

ThreeblackCats · 10/03/2023 09:19

I’d put this down to a funny experience that we talk about on mums birthday. I’d certainly not ask for compensation. I’d feel very sorry for the owner.

I’m struggling to muster any sympathy for such a drama Queen. But I did enjoy a laugh, especially when op thought she could just remove her post because she wasn’t getting the responses she was so desperate for.

VegetablesFightingToReclaimTheAubergieneEmoji · 10/03/2023 09:25

I’d accept the other stay as a free holiday and not bother about compensation.

zingally · 10/03/2023 09:50

A full refund sounds completely bonkers. Obviously no one anticipated whatever caused the flood! No one snuck in and did that to their own property!

If you had a nice time up until the point of the flood, then why should you get a full refund? How many days did you lose as a result of the flood and having to go home early? That's what, if anything, you should ask for back.

AllWorkYoPlait · 10/03/2023 10:28

No one disputes that you were inconvenienced by this leak/flood, but you're trying to make something not particulalry traumatic sound like a disaster movie.

A house flooded, tripped the electrics (which I presume is preferable to someone being electrocuted), a few items (what items?) were damaged.

You lost a night's sleep so should be compensated for that, and damaged items should also be covered. Assuming they are actually damaged and not just damp and can dry out just fine.

You have no cause to ask for a full refund - you're being chancers and you know it. A leak in someone else's house is not traumatic and terrifying Confused you're just trying to ham it up for compensation.

Stop cock and circuit breaker locations are often in the property manual. It's always worth knowing where they are.

Stravaig · 10/03/2023 10:29

I've just registered that you're writing days later, OP, not in the immediate aftermath with adrenaline still coursing! Which makes 'disastrous, terrifying, traumatic' even more batshit as descriptors.

Yes, it is disorienting and stressful to wake to a flood, in unfamiliar surroundings, in the dark. And few of us are as well versed in basic competencies as we should be, like locating and turning off the main water supply.

Yet if it were me, a balanced response the next morning is to be glad.

Glad that no-one was harmed.

Glad that it is not my property and my responsibility, that I can just drive away, that I don't have the cost and hassle of organising and living around repairs.

Glad that it happened in the early morning, and on the final night.

Glad that the trip was essentially over and some of my party had already left.

I'd also think it was a pretty poor show that we were so unprepared, both in terms of practical skills and general resilience. I'd resolve to do something about that.

SeedyM · 10/03/2023 16:29

A prorata refund for the days spoiled and compensation for any items ruined is reasonable. Anything more just seems greedy. Hopefully they will have proper insurance and that’s what the insurance company would pay. It’s a great shame your break was spoiled and you had an unpleasant experience but it’s a shame that their house is ruined and they have to go the trouble and expense, possibly including loss of business while it’s sorted, to get everything put right. No winners here.

EmmaGrundyForPM · 11/03/2023 19:18

Yes it's upsetting but I think you're being OTT

Spectre8 · 09/08/2023 17:24

So what would those people who said go outside of school holidays then say if someone came and did a thread about how their holiday was ruined by shrieking kids on holiday during term time? 🤔

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