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Disastrous holiday let - AIBU?

165 replies

ivygem · 09/03/2023 18:23

Sorry this is long! Just don’t want to drip feed later on. Basically I’m trying to get some perspective please after a disastrous weekend away for a big birthday (mums not mine).

Myself, DH and DD stayed in a fairly large holiday let at the weekend with around 6 other family members including my sister and her new baby. It was a oldish farmhouse that had gone through some redesign etc. over the years in a semi remote farm location. The place was booked by my sister but paid in full by my mum at her request.

My DH and DD left on Sunday due to school and work commitments and I stayed on. Her room was next to ours and I stripped the bed and tidied it out after she left at around 6pm.

On our final night, on my mums actual birthday, I awoke to a loud noise next door (in my DD’s ex room) that sounded like someone was using the shower at around 2am. After some blearly eyed tossing and turning thinking I was delirious I finally investigated and discovered a huge flood in the room coming from the en suite and I immediately ran off to get help. As I went to wake others I discovered a similar noise downstairs - and unsurprisingly found water pouring from the kitchen ceiling. It was actually a shocking amount of damage in a short time with the floor of the large kitchen swimming in about an inch of water. I immediately tried phoning the number left in the ‘house manual’ left by the owners - it was out of date and not in use. My sister then had to search her phone for the number in the booking. Luckily someone answered and they informed us someone would be with us fairly quickly. While we were waiting the electricity tripped and needless to say we were all terrified. My sister packed up her room in case we had to leave (she had the new baby) and we all followed suit. After waiting a while for everything to be brought to some sort of order (the person that was sent spent some time drying out the kitchen with blankets and towels) we were told ‘it was fine’ and we could stay. At this point it was nearly 4am and we were exhausted so we agreed to get some rest and all went to sleep fully clothed, all half terrified that we would need to leave. We awoke early the next morning ans found the electrics downstairs still off and the central heating off. We also found several items that had been damaged including some baby items that upset my sister (think sentimental value not monetary). It was a pretty grim scene. We packed up fairly quickly, with my mum hanging about to speak to someone. No one came or called so she left eventually. We have since contacted the owners to discuss what happened and to talk about what compensation we should expect. We heard nothing so contacted the booking company directly and unsurprisingly my sister received an odd phone call from the owner later the next evening - where they outlined personal mental health issues(?) and suggested we could book in the future at another of their 12 properties for a reduced fee…

Here’s the issue. Myself and others, my mum included, feel given the nature of what happened my mum should pursue a full refund for our whole stay. Other family members feel that’s too much and perhaps she should go after a partial refund, move on ans organise something else at a later date.

A part of me wants to forget the whole ordeal but it was pretty traumatic and I feel like my mum deserves a proper birthday.

AIBU?

YABU - forget it - persuade mum to move on and take a partial refund/ what’s offered. It’s a small business/act of god, these things happen.
YANBU - this is mental - full refund.

Thanks for sticking with it!

OP posts:
Kittenmitten22 · 10/03/2023 06:56

Requesting a refund for the whole weekend, even though the rest of the weekend was fine (I'm assuming?), is bizarre.

A refund for the night in question and/or a discount on another stay would suffice.

TheBerry · 10/03/2023 06:56

Agree the whole terrified / traumatised thing is ott. It sounds annoying and a bit stressful, but ultimately I think it should eventually be a funny story rather than a traumatic memory. Nothing to be scared of just because the lights are out??

Asking for a refund for the one day you were affected sounds fair, although tbh I’m not even sure I’d do that - I’d feel bad for the property owner (I’m a bit soft, though). Asking for a refund for the whole stay makes no sense and isn’t fair.

Kittenmitten22 · 10/03/2023 07:01

Sorry, just to add...

It's like having a 3 course dinner at a restaurant and the starter and main you gobbled up and utterly enjoyed, then the dessert came and you didn't eat it because it was awful... would you request a refund for the whole 3 course meal? Or just ask them to take the dessert off the bill? 🙄

Alwayssinging · 10/03/2023 07:05

I think asking for a full refund on the whole stay is a bit OTT since it happened on your last night.

Newstartonwards · 10/03/2023 07:13

I’d expect a minimum of 50% and a serious apology - numbers must be in date and have adequate information and they must compensate for the stress and anxiety - their personal mental health is not any concern of your

you have loss a day and a nights sleep and that is not a relaxing holiday

concertgoer · 10/03/2023 07:19

I think you need a full refund plus compensation for damages.

the owners should have insurance. & if they don’t, that’s their problem.

the central booking company should make sure of it and make sure the property is fit for occupancy.

how old is your daughter? What would have happened if she was still there? That needs spelling out.

you’re going to need to read the t’s & c’s from the time of your booking to establish what you’re really owed, I’d still ask for more …. Might also be worth a trip advisor review if you can’t get any response.

problems do occur unexpectedly, but that should be the owner’s financial risk, not the customers.

concertgoer · 10/03/2023 07:23

Kittenmitten22 · 10/03/2023 07:01

Sorry, just to add...

It's like having a 3 course dinner at a restaurant and the starter and main you gobbled up and utterly enjoyed, then the dessert came and you didn't eat it because it was awful... would you request a refund for the whole 3 course meal? Or just ask them to take the dessert off the bill? 🙄

No it’s not !
it’s like the chef pouring your pudding over your lap, ripping off the table cloth in the dark, not listening when you request help and making you pay in full !!

it was not the expected outcome of a long weekend away.

when you order a three course meal you may expect one course not to be your favourite. You don’t expect it to traumatise you.

Zuffe · 10/03/2023 07:25

It was a Water Ghost.

concertgoer · 10/03/2023 07:28

TBH you shouldn’t be ASKING for a refund. It should have been OFFERED to you without hesitation!!

the whole approach by the owners is wholly unreasonable!!

CinnamonJellyBeans · 10/03/2023 07:29

"terrified" LOL

Coffeepot72 · 10/03/2023 07:29

I would have found this quite scary. But would not expect a refund for the whole holiday.

Adrieeeeenne · 10/03/2023 07:33

You should repost this saying you are the landlord/owner, then Munsnet will tell you not only should you give a full refund but that you should probably give free holidays for life, or gift the entire property 😂Sorry your trip got spoiled, that’s pretty bad and I’d think a partial refund for the inconvenience and upset caused would be absolutely reasonable.

SaySomethingMan · 10/03/2023 07:33

yetii · 09/03/2023 18:54

Bet this will be deleted as 'it's causing distress for the op'

And what’s wrong with that? What difference would that make to you?

Testina · 10/03/2023 07:34

BlueHeelers · 09/03/2023 18:57

I think it’s pretty scary to be in an unknown property in the middle of the night which had a major flood! Especially as the electric downstairs had already tripped.

oh yes, because the zombie apocalypse followed by the attack of the vampires was going to happen.

🤣

It’s all a bit pathetic.
Refund for one night, fair.
One person’s traumatic event is another person’s fun anecdote.
Life is so much harder for the former types.
In my family, next year it’d all be jokes, “shall we do something for mum’s birthday? Nah, it’s usually a washout” 😉

MrsXx4 · 10/03/2023 07:36

This is not ‘traumatic’ ffs! You live a privileged life to think that it is though. Get a grip.

SaySomethingMan · 10/03/2023 07:36

OP, that sounds like a terrible situation. Electrics tripping around water sounds very scary wheb you don’t know how close it it.
Ignore those saying it’s not a big deal. How were you to know it wasn’t that bad. In a strange place, you’d have been playing all the worst scenarios through your mind.

I think a 50% refund would be fair.

Passivhaus · 10/03/2023 07:49

It ruined your holiday so yeah you should get a full refund. They have 12 other properties FFS not as if they can't afford it.

It's understandable that you were scared too, hate how this becomes a pile on really shows the bullying nature of many, like a pack of vultures.

TheDogthatDug · 10/03/2023 07:51

What were you terrified of? Bears?

Livelovebehappy · 10/03/2023 08:02

It would have been scary with the electrics. A fire could have started on the back of it. When you’re in the middle of no-where in unfamiliar surroundings it can be anxiety inducing when something like this goes wrong. But I would ask for a refund for the last night and a discounted future break, maybe 20% off?

MumoftwoGranofone · 10/03/2023 08:22

I think it’s reasonable to ask for a partial refund proportionate to the final part of your stay which was ruined but no more.

Jamiesgran · 10/03/2023 08:34

I don’t understand being terrified that you might have to leave. It was your last night anyway, you’d be leaving a few hours later. Huge drama over a bit of water in a house that isn’t even yours to fix.
Did you take out holiday insurance you can claim any replacement items from?

Stravaig · 10/03/2023 08:35

This is one of those threads that is full of dramatic and emotional detail but light on the most pertinent facts.

What - or who - caused the flood? Was it one of your party? Was it deliberate negligence on the part of the homeowner, targeted at you? Or was it simply a burst pipe?

What are the sentimental items which were ruined by clean water, and how did that happen given your sister had already packed up her things ready to leave?

How many nights was your stay? You were inconvenienced for only part of the final night.

It sounds like it was clean tap water, not sewage, nor torrential rain through a collapsed roof in a raging storm, nor a freak tsunami. You all sound ridiculously over-dramatic and ill-equipped to deal with the unanticipated events which can happen throughout life. I'm thinking a 5 star hotel suite with concierge service might be a more appropriate venue for future trips.

Demanding a refund for the entire stay is pure greed and entitlement.

DysonBison · 10/03/2023 08:38

Agree with stravaig above: the cause of the flood is the big watery elephant in the room.

DipperandMabel · 10/03/2023 08:47

It’s a shame that happened and can understand there was maybe a bit of panic and disruption at the time. You could request one night refund or compensation but if it was me I wouldn’t bother - I would just put it down to one of those things with it being the final night of your stay.

Make it a memory you tell the baby about in years to come. At least the flood didn’t happen in your property!

RainbowBrightside · 10/03/2023 08:52

OMG OP you’ve made it sound like you were in a warzone, not like you had a leak 😆 😆 Over reaction much…!!?? Maybe a refund for the last night fine but the whole stay is just you being a CF. And as for being ‘terrified’, of what exactly?