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Disastrous holiday let - AIBU?

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ivygem · 09/03/2023 18:23

Sorry this is long! Just don’t want to drip feed later on. Basically I’m trying to get some perspective please after a disastrous weekend away for a big birthday (mums not mine).

Myself, DH and DD stayed in a fairly large holiday let at the weekend with around 6 other family members including my sister and her new baby. It was a oldish farmhouse that had gone through some redesign etc. over the years in a semi remote farm location. The place was booked by my sister but paid in full by my mum at her request.

My DH and DD left on Sunday due to school and work commitments and I stayed on. Her room was next to ours and I stripped the bed and tidied it out after she left at around 6pm.

On our final night, on my mums actual birthday, I awoke to a loud noise next door (in my DD’s ex room) that sounded like someone was using the shower at around 2am. After some blearly eyed tossing and turning thinking I was delirious I finally investigated and discovered a huge flood in the room coming from the en suite and I immediately ran off to get help. As I went to wake others I discovered a similar noise downstairs - and unsurprisingly found water pouring from the kitchen ceiling. It was actually a shocking amount of damage in a short time with the floor of the large kitchen swimming in about an inch of water. I immediately tried phoning the number left in the ‘house manual’ left by the owners - it was out of date and not in use. My sister then had to search her phone for the number in the booking. Luckily someone answered and they informed us someone would be with us fairly quickly. While we were waiting the electricity tripped and needless to say we were all terrified. My sister packed up her room in case we had to leave (she had the new baby) and we all followed suit. After waiting a while for everything to be brought to some sort of order (the person that was sent spent some time drying out the kitchen with blankets and towels) we were told ‘it was fine’ and we could stay. At this point it was nearly 4am and we were exhausted so we agreed to get some rest and all went to sleep fully clothed, all half terrified that we would need to leave. We awoke early the next morning ans found the electrics downstairs still off and the central heating off. We also found several items that had been damaged including some baby items that upset my sister (think sentimental value not monetary). It was a pretty grim scene. We packed up fairly quickly, with my mum hanging about to speak to someone. No one came or called so she left eventually. We have since contacted the owners to discuss what happened and to talk about what compensation we should expect. We heard nothing so contacted the booking company directly and unsurprisingly my sister received an odd phone call from the owner later the next evening - where they outlined personal mental health issues(?) and suggested we could book in the future at another of their 12 properties for a reduced fee…

Here’s the issue. Myself and others, my mum included, feel given the nature of what happened my mum should pursue a full refund for our whole stay. Other family members feel that’s too much and perhaps she should go after a partial refund, move on ans organise something else at a later date.

A part of me wants to forget the whole ordeal but it was pretty traumatic and I feel like my mum deserves a proper birthday.

AIBU?

YABU - forget it - persuade mum to move on and take a partial refund/ what’s offered. It’s a small business/act of god, these things happen.
YANBU - this is mental - full refund.

Thanks for sticking with it!

OP posts:
isitanywondernow · 09/03/2023 19:28

Three times in the last two years I've been woken in the middle of the night at a hotel by the fire alarm going off.

First time was a genuine fire (a guest Iphone exploded and I had to wait in the carpark with small kids in the small hours of the night til the fire bridgade secured the place).

The second two were false alarms.

All woke me from sleep at 3AM involving finding clothes quickly and getting DC out the door.

It really wasn't dramatic.

Neither was what happened to you.

You are chancing your arm, you really are, and adding in all the dramatic language to justify swinging the lead to try and get a free holiday.

Gillbil · 09/03/2023 19:28

Your travel insurance would cover it, but yes its completely reasonable to ask for a full refund

whatadayforadaydream · 09/03/2023 19:30

Can’t help but feel slightly bad for the cottage owner (which I know is generally not allowed on MN). This will presumably not be their fault and they’ll have loads of cost and hassle sorting it, lose the next booking(s) and then have op the op trying to make a claim for her trauma. Hope they have good insurance.

cardibach · 09/03/2023 19:35

Gillbil · 09/03/2023 19:28

Your travel insurance would cover it, but yes its completely reasonable to ask for a full refund

How is it? Only one night was affected.

ShippingForecastMeditator · 09/03/2023 19:37

'Terrified', 'grim scene', 'traumatic', loss of sentimental items... Hoping to use this thread as part of your compensation claim by any chance OP?

It all just sounds like an unfortunate incident that can happen anywhere really doesn't it? Unless it was caused by your DD leaving the shower or a tap on? Maybe if it was a burst pipe you'd be reasonable to ask for a refund for your last night but any more than that would be taking the piss.

JudgeRudy · 09/03/2023 19:38

viques · 09/03/2023 19:22

Why would you take a photo or a mobile to a holiday let for the weekend?

Is was longer than a weekend. Nearly a week for some I think. You might take the pic because its in your purse. You might take the mobile because it helps your child sleep...not really relevant though. Something that was valuable to OPs sister was damaged by the water.

whatadayforadaydream · 09/03/2023 19:41

JudgeRudy · 09/03/2023 19:38

Is was longer than a weekend. Nearly a week for some I think. You might take the pic because its in your purse. You might take the mobile because it helps your child sleep...not really relevant though. Something that was valuable to OPs sister was damaged by the water.

I didn’t say it didn’t happen, but I am curious what it was. As op says you don’t exactly bring a treasured baby photo album to a holiday let.

gettingolderandgrumpier · 09/03/2023 19:44

ivygem · 09/03/2023 18:49

See this is why I knew I shouldn’t have bothered putting this on here. Thanks everyone. I’ll delete this now and wobble my head as instructed.

Well you did ask 🙄

WiddlinDiddlin · 09/03/2023 19:47

I'd ask for a refund from the point of you realising there was a leak so that night and the following day.

I think that some compensation for damaged stuff is in order, but in reality, it was your last night, how much of the following day were you going to be there for anyway?

So 1day/night refund is more than generous, not a full refund, certainly!

grumpycow1 · 09/03/2023 19:48

ivygem · 09/03/2023 18:35

I think it’s pretty scary to be in an unknown property in the middle of the night which had a major flood! Especially as the electric downstairs had already tripped.

We couldn’t locate the stop cock despite looking in the dark and the person sent to help couldn’t either, they managed to stop the water at its source under the en-suite sink.

Annoying - yes. Terrifying and traumatising?? This I don’t get. I think it’s reasonable to get some money back but it was the last night, a full refund is a bit cheeky.

Mañanarama · 09/03/2023 19:49

JudgeRudy · 09/03/2023 19:38

Is was longer than a weekend. Nearly a week for some I think. You might take the pic because its in your purse. You might take the mobile because it helps your child sleep...not really relevant though. Something that was valuable to OPs sister was damaged by the water.

No, it was a weekend per OP. Presumably a long weekend ie Friday to Monday. Flood happened 2am Monday.

EnthENd · 09/03/2023 19:51

YABU because with it being the last night, a partial refund would be more appropriate.

But I do think it should be a refund for the affected night at least. For a start pretty much the basics of a holiday place is being somewhere to sleep and that was completely ruined. Considering it was the middle of the night, no electrics so pitch black but for the light of your phones, no idea if there could be an electrical hazard, water gushing who knows where, in a strange house, and to top if off the supposed emergency contact number not working. I can see how that was a very stressful and difficult situation, and I bet you paid ££££s for the holiday cottage, it's not like it's Pontins.

FlounderingFruitcake · 09/03/2023 19:51

JudgeRudy · 09/03/2023 19:38

Is was longer than a weekend. Nearly a week for some I think. You might take the pic because its in your purse. You might take the mobile because it helps your child sleep...not really relevant though. Something that was valuable to OPs sister was damaged by the water.

OP says it was a weekend away in the first post. Maybe Ewan the dreamsheep drowned and in that case it would be reasonable to ask to be reimbursed for the cost of a new one. But that wouldn’t be sentimental. So I’m just really curious about what you’d pack for a newborn for a weekend that would be sentimental but also damaged by water. Can’t imagine packing photo albums or anything like that!

Spiderboy · 09/03/2023 19:52

Id want a refund to the amount of 1 night stay. I definitely wouldn’t looking at a whole refund, that’s so cheeky.

JudgeRudy · 09/03/2023 20:00

Mañanarama · 09/03/2023 19:49

No, it was a weekend per OP. Presumably a long weekend ie Friday to Monday. Flood happened 2am Monday.

@Mañanarama oops, yes you're correct. So I night of 3. Third off covers the night they didn't get..rounded up to 50% for the inconvenience

Jb2182 · 09/03/2023 20:02

This took a weird turn when you started saying that you want compensation! 😂 I thought you were going to say that you've got to pay for the damage. How on earth did the flood happen if it had been fine for days before that? Sounds like something was left on to me

heyyouitsme · 09/03/2023 20:06

whatadayforadaydream · 09/03/2023 18:48

Also curious about all these high value baby items ruined by normal tap water….

When water comes though a ceiling the materials like plasterboard above. Taint the water. So the tap water becomes, tap water mixed with building materials.

Which is why often insurance companies replace items that get the water on them. If you have never experienced it, be glad.

heyyouitsme · 09/03/2023 20:09

The amount of water that comes down that OP described makes a huge noise. It is pretty traumatic. When you walk into a room and it’s full of water.

In terms of refund I think one night, or discounted stay seems appropriate.

Toddlerteaplease · 09/03/2023 20:17

cardibach · 09/03/2023 18:31

I don’t understand why you’re were ‘terrified’ you would have to leave. There was a bit of a flood. Regrettable, but nobody’s fault. Once the flood had been stopped and you had gone back to bed, why were you terrified?
As to the refund, I thin’ it’s probably ok to ask for the money back for the portion of the stay when you couldn’t use the property properly - the owner will be having the expense of repair and cancelling other bookings so I don’t thin’ it would be reasonable to ask for a refund of the perfectly fine portion of your stay.

I wondered the same.

BMW6 · 09/03/2023 20:21

One night refund would be appropriate.

Expecting a refund of the whole cost would be the epitome of greed, as the unfortunate flood on the last night had no impact whatsoever on the previous nights did it.

It would be like ordering a three course meal but wanting to not pay for any of it because the pudding was burnt.

piedbeauty · 09/03/2023 20:22

ivygem · 09/03/2023 18:49

See this is why I knew I shouldn’t have bothered putting this on here. Thanks everyone. I’ll delete this now and wobble my head as instructed.

But you did ask for opinions!

What caused the flood? Did the owner say?

Pinkdelight3 · 09/03/2023 20:25

Expecting a full refund is crazy, as is the level of 'terrified' you describe. It was a flood in a holiday cottage not a 'strange' property and not a biblical flood. These things happen. You had almost the whole stay there with no trouble and the problem got sorted swiftly as possible. Stop being melodramatic and move on.

Newmum0322 · 09/03/2023 20:27

A refund for the days you didn’t use and a small discount on future visit as a goodwill/apology!

SoosanCarter · 09/03/2023 20:32

You are being unreasonable for your tedious use of “myself” instead of “me”.
I have no sympathy.

Dixiechickonhols · 09/03/2023 20:32

I think partial refund for night ruined is fair not full refund

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