Did I just hear Sunak promise to investigate inappropriate and unsafe sex education in school?

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Did I just hear Sunak promise to investigate inappropriate and unsafe sex education in school?

I don't really listen to priminister questions, but I was just channel hopping waiting for the kettle to boil

So IABU to dance a little dance?

YABU - no you misheard, he didn't say that/ he said it but it is meaningless

YANBU - yes you heard it, yes it means something, dance away

Yes I wouldn't be comfortable with my kids learning about orgasms when they're in secondary school.

If you only teach about the male orgasm, as that's the only one with the (known) biological function, and exclude anatomy you don't consider necessary, like the clitoris, you'll just go back to reinforcing the attitude that it's only the man's pleasure that's important.

Is that really an issue for schools though, or for parents? I really think that getting a poor teacher to walk through various sexual practices and preferences isn't fair on the teacher and that parents really should be consulted about what kids are learning in this context. I think most parents would prefer if schools would stick to basic facts, consent and safety.

But you can't teach human reproduction without mentioning at least one type of orgasm, so how would that work?

Can they not teach what sex is without mentioning orgasms? Like scientific pictures for when they teach them about pregnancy.

Like this goes in here and not mention orgasms at all male or female. And maybe teach them how they should make their bf put on a condom to avoid STIs

I think it is absolutely an issue for schools, as the sex education some parents impart could range from the non-existent to brilliant to the dangerous. Imagine being a gay teenager being raised in a household where you were taught that the only acceptable sex was between a married man and a woman, and you had no access to any other resources.

Schools can teach a standardised syllabus that covers function / biology, health, safety, sexuality, consent, and pleasure, at a range of levels depending on the age of the children.

Oh, give over. Orgasms are not remotely a problem and is part of a standard conversation about sex education. It is not on a par with fetish, harmful sex or 1000genders bunkum taught as fact.

Tories will tell any lie necessary in the run up to an election. More lies. I wouldn't get excited.

I think it should be up to the parent how the kid is raised since it is their kid so if they don't want their kids to know about sex the schools should respect that. When I was younger I had many friends who were pulled out of pshe class entirely. If they went into less detail maybe they would have some pshe education and not none.

... you need a male orgasm to get a pregnancy. It's an essential part of human reproduction. You can't exclude it because you find it distasteful.

I think it might have been possible to imagine that scenario when I was at school, but I don't think it's possible for kids to be simultaneously that sheltered and attending full time school any more.

I am just really uncomfortable with the concept of my kids sitting through this. It might encourage them to engage in sexual activity earlier than they should.

They never ever mentioned this at my school and we seemed to grow up fine. The school I went to is an elite grammar school in London as well so we are all doing ok.

Respectfully, that is quite a naive view. There are many children who are extremely isolated from society, usually in very religious households or households where there is abuse. They might not be as common, but they certainly do exist.

I don't mind that aspect of it, but I'm very wary of what kids could be told, and why. Like, for example, people talking about safe methods of choking upthread. I can see absolutely no reason for that to be part of any school curriculum and once you start down the road that it's up to teachers to teach what some people might consider pleasurable, it can go just about anywhere.

I did not grow up in a religious household by the way and I went to a girl school. To be honest I'm a bit shocked by what I'm reading on here.

And you really don't think that denying children / teenagers this essential knowledge puts them at higher risk of pregnancy, STDs, or sexual exploitation?

I'm honestly not convinced "safe methods of choking" is on any school curriculum. I'm happy to be corrected if anyone can provide any evidence such as a verified school curriculum. But at the moment all I'm seeing is wild claims on the internet with no evidence. I suspect something is being wildly misinterpreted somewhere along the line.

I hope that there is a really thorough look at sex education which is all over the place in schools, with charities or ideology groups able to just chuck in a load of worrying material for kids at young ages.

For me the biggest factor is safeguarding - many kids are really vulnerable or are being abused. Much sex education, particularly from naive ideological groups pushing their ‘open sex anything goes’ agenda is the opposite of safeguarding, thinking of an actual ‘love has no age’ example.

Sex education should be centered around safeguarding, what is OK and what is not OK, confidence in being able to say no, what a good relationship looks like, where kids can go for help. It should NOT be dice games about anal sex.

Sex education should be a million miles away from trans or 70 genders ideology.

I think they should be taught about STDs, pregnancy and biological drawings. I don't think they should be taught about what orgasms or how to pleasure themselves (i.e. talking about the clit). I don't come from a religious household by the way and I went to an all girl's grammar school.

Thank you for that fact free rant.

There you go.

nypost.com/2019/01/16/teen-suffers-life-changing-injury-trying-to-imitate-porn/

Please, tell me that the normalisation of porn, including in the classroom, has nothing to do with this.

But the male orgasm is essential for pregnancy. So how do you teach it accurately?

When I was in school they just showed me a diagram of a vagina showing a fallopian tube (excuse my spelling) etc, this is an egg this is a sperm. This is what a period is. They taught me about contraception STIs. I think that was sufficient. They did not talk about orgasms.

No child should be viewing porn either - when are we going to regulate the porn industry online?