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Why are people so bothered by what my son wears?

419 replies

WindowGazers · 07/03/2023 08:59

My son is 4yo and I let him choose his clothes in the morning. Most days consists of some brightly coloured trousers, probably a mis matching top, and he loves to put tutus over everything. He always looks great and is so confident in whatever outfit he wears.

I'm very introverted personality wise but also choose to wear very extroverted clothing. I don't care what people think about what I wear, but people have started saying in front of me and me son 'aren't you worried that he looks like a girl' or saying directly to him 'interesting choice of clothing you've got there'.

It drives me slightly mad as they're just clothes and he's happy. A dad on the nursery run asked me if I was raising him trans (he was literally wearing black trousers, a hulk top and a red tutu over the top) in front of him!

Am I supposed to just dress him in blue and black or AIBU in thinking that I should be encouraging to wear what he's comfortable in? Also funny how his friends love his clothes (and him!) and it's just the adults who seem to find them out of the ordinary.

I was raised by very extroverted parents who let me wear the most bizarre outfits, but I loved it and I've now turned into an adult who adores alternative fashion. I'm so glad they supported me rather than trying to push me into a box. Opinions?

OP posts:
WindowGazers · 07/03/2023 10:52

Eyerollcentral · 07/03/2023 10:51

If you are going around with a child dressed either as a rainbow or a goth (what 4 year old even has a head to toe black outfit?) then you are attention seeking, especially if you have your own ‘zany’ dress sense and are ‘outside the box’ 🙄

Black joggers and a black long sleeved top and now my son is a goth 😂

OP posts:
Eyerollcentral · 07/03/2023 10:54

Luana1 · 07/03/2023 10:51

I would say 95% of all girl children I know have long hair - I had no idea 9/10 of them looked so dreadful. I guess your kids all have crew cuts?

Most young girls have their hair up most of the time especially at school. Most of the extra special boys with long hair I see are left to have it hanging straggling round their faces so everyone can marvel at how extra special they and their super cool parents are.

Lastnamedidntstick · 07/03/2023 10:54

Eyerollcentral · 07/03/2023 10:48

Probably because it looks really untidy. People who allow their children to have long hair seem to have a higher tolerance for messiness than the rest of society. 9/10 child and their hair looks dreadful or it’s always hanging in their face and eyes

Try cutting a girl’s hair short and deal with the comments then 🙄

Eyerollcentral · 07/03/2023 10:54

WindowGazers · 07/03/2023 10:52

Black joggers and a black long sleeved top and now my son is a goth 😂

Then why not say black tracksuit 🤣

tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 07/03/2023 10:55

Namachanga · 07/03/2023 09:45

I’ll be honest, from your OP, I thought of that scene from about a boy where the mother says he’s just expressing himself and Hugh Grant shouts at her “he’s not expressing himself, he’s expressing you”. He’s not old enough to have established a sufficient sense of self to express himself through fashion - he’s wearing what you want him to wear, he’s doing what you have expressed to him that you like.

I definitely think this is a good point also. Some people absolutely do project their wild n wacky side on to their kids.

Eyerollcentral · 07/03/2023 10:56

Lastnamedidntstick · 07/03/2023 10:54

Try cutting a girl’s hair short and deal with the comments then 🙄

I have. Never had any derogatory comments ever, only compliments about how cute it was. Never see any boys with hair round their face being told that 🤷‍♀️

JoshLymanIsHotterThanSam · 07/03/2023 10:56

Eyerollcentral · 07/03/2023 10:54

Most young girls have their hair up most of the time especially at school. Most of the extra special boys with long hair I see are left to have it hanging straggling round their faces so everyone can marvel at how extra special they and their super cool parents are.

Well @Eyerollcentral yes my son does wear it down and across his face…because it’s currently at an awkward length to do much of anything else with.

How that relates to me being messy I’ll never know? As it stands my house is reasonably clean and tidy. He and the rest of the children dress well. It’s just a bit of long hair!

WindowGazers · 07/03/2023 10:56

Eyerollcentral · 07/03/2023 10:54

Then why not say black tracksuit 🤣

I said black trousers with a black top 🤔

OP posts:
Eyerollcentral · 07/03/2023 10:58

JoshLymanIsHotterThanSam · 07/03/2023 10:56

Well @Eyerollcentral yes my son does wear it down and across his face…because it’s currently at an awkward length to do much of anything else with.

How that relates to me being messy I’ll never know? As it stands my house is reasonably clean and tidy. He and the rest of the children dress well. It’s just a bit of long hair!

You don’t know how your young child being messy with unkempt hair relates to you being messy? Poor kid.

ShakespearesBlister · 07/03/2023 10:58

Perhaps they think he might be bullied?

FUSoftPlay · 07/03/2023 10:59

My four year old wore shorts over his trousers yesterday. Nobody said anything. Nobody cares. He said someone at nursery does that and wanted to himself. 🤷🏼‍♀️

Tbh I see more posts like “I’m letting my son express himself he’s wearing a dress” looking for validation and attention than I do judgmental comments. Yes pre-schoolers (and school age children) like to dress up. I am more shocked that anyone actually cares and often think it’s people desperate to be different who interpret anyone’s interest as a criticism.

Eyerollcentral · 07/03/2023 11:00

WindowGazers · 07/03/2023 10:56

I said black trousers with a black top 🤔

You said black joggers (in your follow up). Anyway it’s obvious you aren’t really interested in considering any other viewpoint about this and were hoping everyone would pile on and say what beastly people, you are the best super cool mum with a super cool son, go you. When most people actually rightly think it’s fairly cringe.

JoshLymanIsHotterThanSam · 07/03/2023 11:02

Eyerollcentral · 07/03/2023 10:58

You don’t know how your young child being messy with unkempt hair relates to you being messy? Poor kid.

ODFOD! At any period a child is growing their hair then it goes through a stage of looking a bit unkempt. That does not in anyway relate to parents being messy!

80s · 07/03/2023 11:02

When most people actually rightly think it’s fairly cringe.
Surely most people simply couldn't care less? Some people on this thread do seem very invested, though, you're right.

RachelSq · 07/03/2023 11:03

I don’t think I’m open minded enough to let my son wear fancy dress (this would include a Batman costume as well as a tutu), but I’d let him choose any combination out of his wardrobe.

However, although I’d give him the choice it would be out of a wardrobe filled largely with typically boys/gender neutral clothes. I wouldn’t be encouraging pink and flowery or skirts.

If a kid was wearing clothes that stood out as odd to me, I wouldn’t be questioning it at all TBH. It’s the parents/child business and not mine.

JoshLymanIsHotterThanSam · 07/03/2023 11:03

And as for poor kid-instead of being judgmental why don’t you try and understand that kids have feelings and thoughts too??

CrotchetyCrocheting · 07/03/2023 11:04

I just don't understand the faux, why do people comment thing? Ds has autism, he is a big smelly teen now but way back when he was a cute little toddler he saw this fedora in tk maxx when he was out with his dad that he fell in love with and dh bought it for him. For the next 2 years until it fell apart it never left his head, people with kids with autism will know the attachment they get to things. Anyway, it was commented on all of the time because it is odd to see a 2 year old walking around in a fedora never mind in the middle of Winter. I didn't pretend to be all 'oh I don't know why people always have something to say about how my son dresses', I knew why, because he was a 2 year old walking around in a fedora and that isn't the usual attire of 2 year olds. It doesn't take a rocket scientist.

Ahiccuportwo · 07/03/2023 11:04

NumericalBlock · 07/03/2023 10:07

Why not? My 3yo lives in a tutu, she also climbs trees wearing said tutu. I draw the line at dangerous (no tutus around the fire) but otherwise it's not the end of the world if they wear tutus regardless of sex, surely?

My two kids, 3 and 6 (both girls) have a selection of clothes, a lot of colourful plain bits and a lot of 'normal' bits that fit their sensory needs (no jeans but jeggings type thing) along with a collection of charity shop clothes because I can't afford to buy as many clothes as SEN 6yo gets through, and they often have a very strong opinion as to what they want to wear. My eldest loves clashing patterns together if she has to put day-clothes on and my youngest wears a dress and/or tutu all of the time with leggings and tee underneath. Both have had their own clothes preferences since they were toddlers.

Because tutus are flimsy, stick out, are made of net and easily torn. Fine if you’re supervising your DC and allowing them to climb trees in it; your responsibility if it gets ruined.

But a nightmare for nursery staff when a much loved dressing up item gets torn or covered in paint or ruined under their watch.

Eyerollcentral · 07/03/2023 11:05

JoshLymanIsHotterThanSam · 07/03/2023 11:02

ODFOD! At any period a child is growing their hair then it goes through a stage of looking a bit unkempt. That does not in anyway relate to parents being messy!

But anyone seeing him doesn’t know that he is growing his hair out do they? They just see a poor child with wild hair. And no even if growing your hair out it can still be neat, get a trim.

Dillydallydilly · 07/03/2023 11:05

Namachanga · 07/03/2023 09:45

I’ll be honest, from your OP, I thought of that scene from about a boy where the mother says he’s just expressing himself and Hugh Grant shouts at her “he’s not expressing himself, he’s expressing you”. He’s not old enough to have established a sufficient sense of self to express himself through fashion - he’s wearing what you want him to wear, he’s doing what you have expressed to him that you like.

Spot on

Norriscolesbag · 07/03/2023 11:05

I have to be honest- he’s dressing differently so you can expect comments. My daughter once rummaged through a jumble sale (aged 3) and came home wearing a tiara and a what only can be described as a belly dancer’s shimmery gold skirt on top of her everyday clothes. She got a lot of comments on the walk home 😂

tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 07/03/2023 11:07

aSofaNearYou · 07/03/2023 09:55

This makes me sad for children. Can’t they just be free to be children whilst they can?

Yes, totally valid way of thinking. But this debate exists in a lot of areas of parenting, it comes up in regards to school work, chores, general behaviour, and many other things. People do fall at different points on the spectrum of "let kids be kids" vs "prepare them for adult life"

Sofa the more of your posts on this I read the more I think you have some very valid points. As parents it's so hard to get the balance between preparing our kids for the next stage - which whilst it's a shame, will have societal standards, norms and expectations attached - and supportive them expressing themselves safely. Then as soon as we feel we've got that balance the next stage is looming Confused

I do think in the case of clothing, OP has a very small and ever closing window of allowing her son to Just Be and to treasure it.

I've a photo of DD at this age ready to go out for a walk to the shops looking like she'd deliberately thrown anything and everything on that clashed, including l Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle wellies - in a heatwave Grin - but she was strutting around like she was Naomi blimmin Campbell on a 90s catwalk. Her confidence and lack of inhibition and embarrassment was awesome. Boy she got son looks though!

Sometimes that photo makes me well up as it reminds me of how tough it is for our terns now to navigate adolescence in this hyper image conscious and sexualised time. She will probably never feel that free and not self conscious in her appearance again until she's 50.

Anyway I digress.

This thread definitely prompts some good discussion

Eyerollcentral · 07/03/2023 11:07

80s · 07/03/2023 11:02

When most people actually rightly think it’s fairly cringe.
Surely most people simply couldn't care less? Some people on this thread do seem very invested, though, you're right.

I always cringe slightly at ‘zanily’ dressed children but then again I love clothes. If people don’t care how they look I suppose it won’t register with them. It’s the parental attitude that gets me the most…what the child is wearing isn’t really here nor there.

takealettermsjones · 07/03/2023 11:09

This thread is... weird.

I get you OP, I've had similar comments about my daughter, because she loves blue, dinosaurs, and doc martens. I've had so many people refer to her as a boy, look astounded when I say she's a girl, then ask me pointed questions that all basically mean, "why aren't you signalling GIRL by putting her in head to toe pink/hearts/ruffles".

I just respond by asking, "have you met many toddlers?" 😆 She wears what she wants to wear. She has a wardrobe full of every colour of the rainbow, yes including pink and pastels and hearts and whatever else, but it's up to her. She picks her favourites, I pick my battles!

Oh and btw she also usually has quite unkempt-looking hair, because it's thin and wispy and she refuses any bobbles/clips. 😱 Not interested in anyone telling me she's scruffy. She's clean and cared for and happy.

JADS · 07/03/2023 11:10

My ds 8 will only wear shorts even when it's snowing. He hasn't worn trousers for over 2 years. I expect comments to be fair. He is always complaining He is too hot in school even in shorts and a t shirt. His cheeks are really pink at the end of school so I imagine it is quite warm inside.