To ask what stops you voting for the tories ?

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For me
The unending shite that is brexit
Corruption and dishonesty, especially during the pandemic but not uniquely. And not just Johnson.
Making already deprived areas compete against each other for levelling up money whilst perfectly affluent tory voting areas are handed it on a plate (looking at Richmond N yorks Rishi ! ). Funny that 80% of constituencies getting levelling up funds are tory...
Whole culture war. Singling out certain minorities to attack for purely political gain. In the 80s single mums, 90s benefit claimants, 2000s refugees, immigrants. FWIW I'm fairly gender critical but disliked the way they toadied round Trump and his abhorrent opinions/followers who pretty much wrote the culture war playbook.
So what stops you from voting for them ?

The Tories are the party for the mean spirited, self obsessed, lying bastards. Their only concern is themselves - they use private health care, so sod the NHS, they use private education, so sod state schools, they don't care about the level of energy bills, because they're wealthy, public transport is a concept to them, not a daily commute. The worst thing for me though is their lying immorality. They are bare faced liars, as things like their lockdown parties in Westminster demonstrated. Then yesterday Johnson nominating HIS OWN FATHER for a peerage WTAF. If that goes ahead I expect the country to riot and sacrifice B. Johnson at Traitors' Gate.

It's people like you that will really help the future with that attitude.

I'm sure all those who need a leg up will be grateful for people out there with your attitude

They're all as bad as each other. Either corrupt or useless. Anyone who sits around thinking that a Labour government (or ANY government) are going to solve all their problems for them, is an idiot, because it's never going to happen, and they'd be a lotter off if they took responsibility for their own lives.

Fucks sake.

Common decency.

Self respect.

In no particular order...Brexit, the intent to privatise all healthcare, unabashed corruption/dodgy deals, utterly devoted to keeping rich people rich and the plebs in their place, complete disregard to the environment, they lie as easily as they breath.

Whilst Labour may redeem themselves if they can get a fucking grip (sadly unlikely based on current form). The Conservatives and their supporters are beyond my contempt.

They want to destroy public services and make everything privately fu did/profit making. That is their ideology.

Curious if the news today that Matt "whattaman"cock was quite willing to threaten a pull the funding for a facility for the disabled in order to get a fellow Tory to vote his way has gained or lost any Tory voters on this thread ?

If you lie down with dogs, you get fleas.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64870505

WhatsApp messages show Mr Hancock agreed to put pressure on James Daly, Conservative MP for Bury North, if he failed to vote with the government.

It wouldn't make much difference to me. The Labour MPs wouldn't have needed threatening as they were all quite happy to lock us up forever on the smallest pretext. Seeing their authoritarian streak in full swing was scary. I'm glad they weren't in power, and that's really saying something!
No need for a daycare centre for disabled people if you wanted everyone stuck at home 24/7 anyway.

Good on that Tory MP for Bury for 1. trying to get funding for the disabled centre (and a tory, gosh, thought they were all bastards!) and 2. standing up against the shit Northern lockdown in particular

I like you dad @Tillow4ever 😀

We need more people like that, recognising that a society works best together and not when just people are out for themselves (and their friends)

As a country we need a resurgence like there was in 1997. I don’t necessarily mean a resurgence in New Labour but someone/some party who makes us feel like the UK is worth living in because it certainly doesn’t feel like that now

And I put the blame for that at every Tory MP, member and voters door - small and large C conservative

Wow - all the "There's no other choice, what can we do?"

I think our democracy might already be fucked, people simply don't have the info to vote for people who are acting in their interests.

Even trans issues. I'm GC but I had a big shock when I heard about the right wing money and think tanks behind some GC outfits - the aim is explicitly to weaken the Liberal left by driving artifical division between us on cultural issues. So there are people here who should vote Labour because frankly even if self Id happens...the lives of women and children will be overall and immediately much better due to sensible policies all round. But theyre not voting Labour, the progressive vote is split, so Tories benefit. And we can't weigh this up because we don't have the information.

We are in a malignant information climate and it's harming us.

Neither Tories, nor the voters are keen on taking personal responsibility @EthicalNonMahogany, so you get a lot of:
It wasn't my fault.
I had no other choice.
It's the immigrants, EU's, poor people's, Labour's, etc fault.

We need more people like that, recognising that a society works best together and not when just people are out for themselves (and their friends)

Margaret Thatcher literally said "There is no such thing as society" - it really is the starting point for being a Tory.

Thank god for someone sensible.

It’s because I really like having an NHS.

Mind you, terms of general incompetence, sleaze, corruption and having generally lost touch with the people they’re supposed to represent, I don’t think that there’s that much to choose between the Tories and Labour.

I’m not racist.
I don’t hate the elderly.
I don’t hate people who have disabilities/poor health.
I’m a higher rate tax payer.
I want to keep the NHS, public schools etc and I want them to be appropriately funded.
I don’t want nursery provision to become even worse for parents, children and the staff.

"At last a true Tory budget"

Got a proper Tory PM in in Truss to roll back the years with Maggie. How did that go?

Everything.

Brexit
Lies
Dishonesty
Division stoking
The massive shift to the extreme right

I'm not turned on by cruelty.

I don't believe in the fantasies that you would have to subscribe to in order to think voting Conservative was a good thing for our country.

The state of the country is what would stop me voting for four more years of this.

We can't afford four more years of this.

I’m GC, but this is all so much bigger than that. The Tories have to be consigned to a generation in opposition.

All the 'there is no alternative!!' stuff just makes me laugh.

I like human rights.

On balance I think human rights are a good thing.

I don't want to lose any of my human rights.

And I don't want to take rights away from other humans.

I don't vote for politicians who do.