To ask what stops you voting for the tories ?

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For me
The unending shite that is brexit
Corruption and dishonesty, especially during the pandemic but not uniquely. And not just Johnson.
Making already deprived areas compete against each other for levelling up money whilst perfectly affluent tory voting areas are handed it on a plate (looking at Richmond N yorks Rishi ! ). Funny that 80% of constituencies getting levelling up funds are tory...
Whole culture war. Singling out certain minorities to attack for purely political gain. In the 80s single mums, 90s benefit claimants, 2000s refugees, immigrants. FWIW I'm fairly gender critical but disliked the way they toadied round Trump and his abhorrent opinions/followers who pretty much wrote the culture war playbook.
So what stops you from voting for them ?

I always think about children, because I was badly abused growing up and no one, in safe guarding or otherwise came to my aid.
So, spending a budget on children and vulnerable people is very high up my list and the Tories are terrible about it.
SEN provision in schools comes under that list as is disability benefits and enough money to live on, whether on work or not.
That's why I don't vote Tory.

As for anyone using the "at least they know what a woman is" excuse to justify voting for these miscreants, please try listening to a few of Johnson senior's diatribes. That'll tell you exactly what the Tories think a woman is good for. Anf then look up his behaviour towards his wife. You only have to look at their policies and the effects of their policies to see what their real natures are and the real level of their regard for women

I don’t disagree with you. What happens though if we can no longer point to the evidence this is happening and hold government to account? I won’t vote for that either.

Basically every single thing about them

I also think Ann Widdecombe is a regressive twat along with Rees Mogg and the general lot of them.

Corruption and lies. Can't stand liers.

The Tories kicked off the trans shitshow in 2017 @SoNoWrecksToday.
www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/society/2017/oct/18/theresa-may-plans-to-let-people-change-gender-without-medical-checks

@reddwarfgeek I currently live not too far from where I suspect you are and I have been utterly gobsmacked at how many Tories have slithered out of the woodwork since I started in my current job a few months ago. I knew it was going to be very different from the bit of the country I'd moved from (south but surprisingly radical in many ways).

What has absolutely gobsmacked me where I am now is how many very poor people vote Tory and actually admitted it - it wasn't just self declared posh pricks from the peaks! I realised I was in a parallel universe when one department actually decided to hold their Christmas do at the local Tory club. Talk about tone deaf turkeys voting for, well, Christmas....!

Though it's possibly explained by the fact we do appear to have some spectacularly corrupt local Labour pillars of the community if some of the reported shenanigans of the last ten years or so are accurate. I remain bewildered about what they actually DO with the block fund that wasn't cut... can't help feeling there are lots of revelations about to spill forth about this neck of the woods and former mills...! Still won't stop me voting against the Tories though, for the good of the country as a whole (I'm not a Starmer fan either).

As far as I can see people who vote Tory are either very rich and don't care; very poor and don't understand; or just congenitally selfish and short sighted and don't care or understand.

They're a load of greedy, morally bankrupt psychopaths who'd be quite happy if they could allow a lot of us to just croak it.

Because they are not conservative. The party has been hijacked by corrupt socialists.

@sst1234 that's a joke ?

No it’s not.

It’s ironic that that the Tories have been throwing public money around like confetti, subsidizing anything that moves, presided over highest taxation since the war, run businesses out of the country, increased debt, printed almost a trillion pounds, over half of that to pay for draconian left wing Covid restrictions. If you described these ‘achievements’ to someone without telling the name of the party, they would think we had been ruled by the far left for the last 13 years. And of course, where there is socialism, corruption isn’t far off. And that’s just the economy. Socially, they’re even more left wing.

So, no, this party is not conservative by any stretch of the imagination.

Absolutely

Well after the latest leaks it was the Tories who actually went against the science for lockdown, Brexit is very negligible when you consider those who supported it was apparently for the common working class and why Corbyn a life long Brexiteer was someone who has the worst labour defeat in decades against the worst Tory government in generations.

It is why most online anti tories/pro EU are just advocating 'current thing' and ignoring the issues we have in the UK are also wide spread across the EU, and trying to play pick and mix of what we should implement and not, there is a reason why Nordic countries are not often recited now.

I am voting Labour, just as I did under Blair, and I and what the internet isn't going to forget is the turkeys voting for christmas comments (I am a remainer), nor will it be easily brushed aside as not true labour, the problems aren't going to go away and simplistic solutions from the sidelines are suddenly not as easy as they thought. It is a perfect mirror of 2008 GFC and it is for the militant online left to now offer solutions and deal with a budget whilst still wanting their personal house price to go up in value and keep food and travel costs down.

There is a reason why the online activists have been to hold back on types of memes or talking points of 'turkeys voting for christmas', you are obviously not that aware yet

I always remember when I was a teenager, I was talking politics with my dad. My parents ran their own very successful business, they were worth a LOT of money at that stage - but came from backgrounds of factory worker/cleaner, so fairly humble beginnings. My dad told me that no matter how well off they were, he would NEVER vote for the Tories. It didn't matter that it was the party that was "best" for them based on their finances etc - he said you always look after those that are struggling the most, and that the Tories would never be the party to do that. My dad used to be a union rep as well, which solidified his thinking.

That conversation always stuck with me, and I really felt his words and his belief in them. So I've always had the same thought process. Not that I've ever been in a position where voting Tory would benefit me - but I know that my voting habits wouldn't change even if I started earning a 6 or 7 figure salary tomorrow!

On top of that, I wouldn't vote for them with their lying, corrupt ways, in-fighting, destroying the NHS, destroying the housing market for people not lucky enough to have bought years ago, historically privatising trains/utilities, all actions for a fast buck for them and not considering long-term implications for the country, PPE scandal, Johnson, Cummings, Brexit, making really, really sick people have to fight for benefits they are owed, for stirring up hatred towards immigrants in this country, Uni tuition fees, expenses scandal, voting to put up their own (huge) salaries whilst voting not to increase those of nurses, etc, the loss of so many NHS dentists, the contempt they seem to have for ordinary/every day people, destroying our education system by underpaying, making class sizes too big, over-zealous ofsted, pushing good teachers to breaking point, etc, allowing the energy companies to continue pushing prices up despite declaring record profits, stopping allowing headteachers discretion to take a child out of school meaning some families never go on holiday (not even in the UK)...

I'm sure there are so many more things, but this is getting me angry now!

Assuming pp is actually genuine, but the Tories being "the natural party of government" I mean, who told you that? Because you sure as hell didn't think of it for yourself? And anyway, what does it actually mean?

The most depressing thing is, people will vote them in again, as soon as they don't feel Labour have made them into millionaires in six months.

This

A lot of people on this thread who are pro Tory have very strange usernames.

The tories.

Labour are also shit. What's the point, at this point politics is just love Island for midwits.

The last fourteen fucking useless wasted years.

What do I hate about Tories ....how long have you got?

Their utter contempt for normal people. The sheer arrogance and audacity they continually display when telling lies, giving contracts to their friends and supporters, and u-turning. Their deliberate underfunding of public services and wilful destruction of the NHS. Brexit. The way they prey on the insecurities they've created by whipping up the culture wars. Their inhumane treatment of asylum seekers - Yarlswood, Napier Barracks, the disappearance of child asylum seekers... The thousands of deaths from Covid which could have been prevented. Their demonising of public sector workers and unions. Their continuing moves to remove our rights to protest. Their disdain for the democratic processes of our country. The changes to voter ID rules which will doubtlessly favour Tory voters.

Brexit
Corruption, especially over the pandemic, lining each other's pockets while NHS staff died.

Morals

Because I don’t hate myself or my fellow man.