To think this woman should not be put in prison?

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Bizarre and very unfair Link

Cowper Road is on the same side as the accident happened. So is Priory Road. Both of them have signs. I saw them this afternoon.

Fair enough. They weren't there at the time of the accident though.

And how do you know that? Anyway, whether there were signs or not, it’s a shared path and has been for 48 years.

Streetview has images going back to 2009 showing no signs. The most recent are 5 months ago. Still no signs.

I'm amazed that you can say conclusively that it was designed as a shared path (which it clearly wasn't) when the council don't even claim to know.

I am genuinely shocked by this sentence.

I knew someone who reversed out of a drive and killed a motorcyclist and was done for driving without due care and attention.

If shouting and gesticulating is a criminal offence now then I’m doomed.

She wasn't convicted for shouting and gesticulating. She was convicted for causing a death.

Whoa... Is there really any need to be so rude? Everyone's allowed their opinion on a discussion board without being belittled for it.

You did get the part about her having learning difficulties, didnt you? Not that that excuses her actions, but it makes them a easier to understand why she just left the scene the way she did.
Partially sighted as well, it could be considered whether she knew it had actually happened.

Hey bet get defense wish they'd thought of all these mitigating factors

*Bet her

She apparently caused the death by gesticulating and shouting 🙄

There's no way she wouldn't have heard it. She was right there. There's nothing to suggest she literally didn't know the cyclist was hit by the car.

I just wish they'd lock up stupid people too.

After you.

She admitted to making contact with the cyclist.

Gesticulating and shouting from ten feet away won't have the same consequences as gesticulating, shouting and making contact with a cyclist right next to a busy road. If you don't know that, stop gesticulating and shouting at all. You could kill someone.

Nah, I'm ok. Basically because I understand the case in hand.

What part are posters missing about learning difficulties?

Jailing Grey, of Huntingdon, Judge Sean Enright said her actions ‘are not explained by disability’.

He said she had no mental disorder or learning difficulties and he said the pavement was 2.4 metres wide at the relevant point, describing it as a ‘shared path on the ring road’.

The judge described her as being ‘territorial about the pavement’, adding: ‘You resented the presence of an oncoming cyclist.’

She apparently caused the death by gesticulating and shouting

She absolutely caused Celia Ward's death by acting disproportionately and recklessly and assaulting her, causing her to fall into the road.

It's a shame this isn't being framed from the perspective of the victim.

Celia Ward, a 77 year old retired midwife was cycling on her shopper bike along the outer part of a 2.4 metre wide pavement, leaving space for the approaching pedestrian who veered towards her, shouted, "get off the fucking pavement" before making physical contact with Celia who then toppled into the road and was run over and killed.

What constitutes a common assault?

Assault: Physical contact does not have to occur for an assault to take place. If the defendant causes another person to fear violence, this is enough to be classed as assault, for example if the defendant raises their fist to the victim.

What does the prosecution have to prove to establish common assault?
The prosecution must be able to prove that the defendant intended to cause the victim to feel that violence will be used against them. Without this proof, there is no grounds for assault, unless the defendant has behaved in such a reckless and thoughtless way that the victim was apprehensive of a violent act occurring.
What is the definition of recklessness?
If a person is aware that there is a possibility that their act could cause another person to apprehend immediate violence, and they still take the risk and proceed with the action, this is recklessness.
Will I go to prison for common assault?
If you’re convicted of common assault, you could be looking at a maximum prison sentence of six months, and/or a fine or a community service order.
Remember: prison sentences are usually handed down for cases where serious injury was caused, or in the case of repeat offenders. If the attack was made towards a disabled person, or was racially motivated, the chance of going to prison is higher

Did she veere towards her? I looked for that and couldn't see it. She actually seemed to move away to give more space at the end.

The cyclist was coming up over a dropped kerb and may have altered course. We can't really tell.

If following the 'rules' of shared paths the cyclist should have passed on the other side of the pedestrian anyway, and should have been prepared to stop and give way instantly if obstructed.

It’s about setting an example. If you commit a crime, you get punished, regardless of disability I’m afraid. She acted in an aggressive way, period. This aggressiveness unfortunately resulted in someones death which is why she has been charged with manslaughter.

No one should be above the law. No one should be given special treatment when a crime has been committed, especially one that resulted in someones death. Even those who committed a murder with diminished responsibility still get charged with something, usually manslaughter instead of murder.

It's a shame this isn't being framed from the perspective of the victim.

Celia Ward, a 77 year old retired midwife was cycling on her shopper bike along the outer part of a 2.4 metre wide pavement, leaving space for the approaching pedestrian who veered towards her, shouted, "get off the fucking pavement" before making physical contact with Celia who then toppled into the road and was run over and killed.

You are, of course, completely correct.

She probably wasn't anticipating being attacked, I know I don't ride round expecting to be assaulted, even though it's happened before

@BrigitteBond why are you even taking the time to look at street view? Don’t you think the legal teams looked at all the evidence and put it forward to the judge? Who are you to investigate this crime?