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To want to go to a festival with friends for a week?

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TwixLeStrange · 02/03/2023 14:49

Me and my DH have been married for 13 years, together for 16 years. We have two DD together, aged 7 and 11. Every 2 years, a group of university friends meet at a week long music festival. 7 years ago, I decided I'd like to go. We only had 1 DD at the time and she was 2 years old. Me and DH discussed it, he agreed it was fine for me to go and he'd get his Mum to help with DD. I booked the ticket but then he changed his mind. We had a big row about it, I eventually decided it wasn't worth it. I sold the ticket but said I would go in 7 years time.

7 years later it was cancelled anyway (COVID). Last year my time finally came. Again he wasn't happy but I went and had an amazing time. He looked after our kids and because his Mum lives with us now (not as bad as it sounds, as we get on well together), she helped out.

The festival is normally every 2 years but as it was cancelled during lockdown, they're doing it again this year and I'd like to go again. Again, his Mum will help looking after the children. He doesn't want me to go. He thinks it's bad for the family and traumatising for the children. They missed me last time and I missed them but we all got over it and I came home refreshed and happy. I don't see what the big deal is.

He said it was so challenging looking after them last time (the festival is during the school summer holidays) that he's going to take the week off work and take them somewhere nice. I thought that was a great idea. But then he said he doesn't want to come on our family holiday and we may as well have separate family holidays. I accused him of emotionally blackmailing me. Last year we still went on a family holiday. I've already booked accommodation for this years and told the kids about it, they're looking forward to it.

I conceded and said I wouldn't go. But then thought about it some more over the weekend and got more and more angry about the emotional blackmail and so changed my mind. I said, fine, he can stay away from the family holiday if he likes, I'll still take the kids and hope that he changes his mind about coming. I've offered to reciprocate and he can go away somewhere nice with his friends for a week but he doesn't want to. Equally, he doesn't want to come to the festival as he doesn't like camping or festivals.

Now he's saying he wants a divorce. He says we fundamentally want different things from a marriage. He thinks I want to 'carry on having a single life' while he wants to focus 100% on the kids. He doesn't want to be 'left to do everything alone at home' for 'weeks at a time' while I go off and do what I want. I asked him at what point he will think it's ok to go away without them for a week. He replied when they're at University, which I think is unrealistic. For context, I'm not some wild party girl who is always out. I'm not really a drinker. I'm a health nut who is always at the gym and prefers early nights and cultural events. The festival is a hippy, trance one with lots of yoga, talks on spirituality vegan food etc... I go out about once a month to meet a friend/friends for dinner/go to the theatre/art galleries etc... Last year's festival was the first time I'd been away from the kids in 10 years. I take the kids to my Mum's house one weekend a month and also for 1 week per year and he doesn't come with us so he gets lots of alone time to relax. But he's said he doesn't ask for this and he's right.

My issue isn't really about the festival. Of course my marriage is more important than a festival and if it was just this, I would skip it for this year. But I feel if I give in to this, I'll never be able to go on any of the other things I want to do in the future. Me and DH are very different and have different interests. But I've never thought that was a problem as long as we didn't stop each other from being who we are as people. I feel like he's trying to make me be someone else. AIBU?

OP posts:
WFHbore2023 · 02/03/2023 14:52

No.

As you've said, he's emotionally blackmailing you.

If he thinks you going away for a week will traumatise children, what does he think living separately from them will do??

dotdotdotdash · 02/03/2023 14:56

He's being an arse. He has a week off himself when you go to your mums? Does he have an issue with you having fun, because if he does, that's a problem...

Moraxella · 02/03/2023 14:59

Has he ever been away alone? Stag do etc?

Howtohideasausage · 02/03/2023 14:59

This just sounds miserable. You're not compatible and he's trying to control your actions. Imagine saying you want a divorce to get your own way. Completely unreasonable.

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 02/03/2023 15:01

I'm going to a festival this summer with friends without DP. Mine are 11 and 9.

He's being ridiculous.

ClareBlue · 02/03/2023 15:02

Of course you should go. We are 30 years in and often go away with old friends separately and always have. It never traumatised any of our children and tbh he should be able for it without getting his mother to help. We also have very different interests which is one of the reasons we go to different places.
What you describe is not unreasonable at all. It's not going off for weeks on end or abandoning the family.
Generally we have found you come back happy and more connected and it is positive for everyone, including children.
Children are fine with their parents being away for a time, especially only one.
This comes across as a control thing in that it really isn't a big deal to look after your own children for a week, he isn't seeing you as an individual but just a mother and doesn't seem to want you to have any fun in life. I'd be worried it will get worse and all the fun will be sucked out of you day to day life

Duckswaddle · 02/03/2023 15:05

What a knob. You’re perfectly entitled to a bit of freedom.

ClareBlue · 02/03/2023 15:06

And our adult children do the same in that they often travel without their long term partners and with old friends or with each other. It's a healthy attitude.

CampervanKween · 02/03/2023 15:07

That's ridiculous of him and he needs to grow up. How pathetic to try to blackmail you into not going. My husband and I have been together for 30 years and are very comfortable going away in all sorts of combinations.

If you love somebody, set them free. As the song goes. Marriage isn't a cage.

Bunnyishotandcross · 02/03/2023 15:09

Call his bloody bluff. When he has the dc eow you will be away with friends....
What a twat.

MrsTerryPratchett · 02/03/2023 15:16

He'd love me. I'm going away for two weeks later this year. And my DH doesn't need a woman to outsource his parenting to.

Different when they're small. I get why it would be harder with little kids.

If he wants a divorce off the back of this, that's his choice. It's not marriage or a festival. It's marriage or autonomy.

Minikievs · 02/03/2023 15:17

Problem is, you gave in last time he had a mard. So now he's acting like a toddler-if I have a tantrum, I get my own way.
Fuck him, the selfish arse.
Go, and have a wonderful time

deveronvalley · 02/03/2023 15:18

Your husband is embarrassing himself, what an idiot.

Lcb123 · 02/03/2023 15:19

That’s emotional abuse. Of course you should go. And why does his mother need to help, assuming he’s a capable adult (but clearly not). Me and DH do loads of activities separately- we both enjoy our independence. No kids yet but if we do, I’d be very keen to take turns, appreciate would be less often.

VioletaDelValle · 02/03/2023 15:24

He thinks it's bad for the family and traumatising for the children.

Emotional blackmail.

Me and DH do things separately both for pleasure and for work and we've not traumatised our child. In fact, I'm travelling for work soon and will be away for 9 days and DH and DS are already planning their 'boys week'.. .. DS is looking forward to it.

He's being an arse.

AnotherSpare · 02/03/2023 15:26

I actually think its healthy to have some time apart from a spouse in a marriage, and time apart from your kids. It helps everyone remember they are real people, not just family roles! Of course the kids miss you when you are away, that doesn't mean you shouldn't go.
Your husband sounds untrusting and selfish. When you love someone you should want them to be happy, sounds like he just wants you at home regardless. And to use your kids and the family holiday as emotional blackmail is childish.
So he finds it too difficult to parent his children without you but with the help of his mother for just a week? Pathetic.
I would accept his suggestion of divorce, I couldn't live my life being controlled like that.

Whatsshecalled · 02/03/2023 15:29

Traumatised???? They're aged 7&11! And why on earth does he need his mum's help to look after his own children who are aged 7 and 11? Does he never look after them when you're around?And he has a week away from them when you take them to your mums but somehow they manage not be traumatised by that. So much wrong with him I wouldn't be standing in the way if he wants a divorce.

tashac89 · 02/03/2023 15:33

Surely its not that hard to look after your own kids alone for a week...

I'm going to a festival this year with friends. My husband is going to one as well 2 months later. We're also shockhorror going away for a couple of nights together without the kids. We have 4 between 7 and 14. My kids are not traumatised or other such bollocks from their parents doing their own thing a couple of times a year.

OdeToBarney · 02/03/2023 15:36

WFHbore2023 · 02/03/2023 14:52

No.

As you've said, he's emotionally blackmailing you.

If he thinks you going away for a week will traumatise children, what does he think living separately from them will do??

This. He's being a twat. Do you feel like calling his bluff? I would!

TwixLeStrange · 02/03/2023 15:39

@Moraxella part of the problem is that he never has and never will go to stag dos, nights out with friends etc... he's a loner and doesn't really go out. Fine for him, if that's how he wants to live his life. But I'm a sociable person and need more than just him and the kids in my life. When we first got together, he actually said he liked this about me as I brought him out of his shell a bit and was able to be the talkative one in social situations we attended together, allowing him to be quiet and not have to make such an effort. Now I think he's threatened by it.

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TwixLeStrange · 02/03/2023 15:42

@OdeToBarney That's exactly what I'm doing at the moment. I'm allowing him to keep going on about enlisting solicitors and selling the flat etc.. while calmly stating that I don't want a divorce but I won't stand in his way if that's how he truly feels. It is pretty upsetting though and I'm starting to wonder if I'm the one who is being unreasonable, hence why I've posted here.

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OdeToBarney · 02/03/2023 15:46

@TwixLeStrange I'm sorry, that sucks. It's all well and good us all saying YANBU, but that doesn't helping with the actual pain of the situation. Reading your reply above the one to me, our husbands sound kind of similar. I won't stop going out. He is more than capable of looking after DD (10 months) for a few hours here and there and getting out and "being me" is really helpful in managing my PND. I think he knows better than to push me on this point! I'm sorry your DH is being such an arse Flowers

Honeyroar · 02/03/2023 15:48

Stand your ground. You’re absolutely not being unreasonable. And he’s going to have to look after them much on his own more if he flounces off and gets divorced!

whatkatydid2013 · 02/03/2023 15:51

Everyone needs time to themselves. A week isn’t a huge length of time. Your kids will be fine. I went away for 2-3 weeks at once with work regularly from when my kids were small and have days out/nights away without them. My OH also has some work travel and does lots of cycling days/weekends away. Kids are perfectly happy to do stuff with one of us. Unless you are unwilling to give him equal time to do whatever it is he wants (even if that’s just to sit around playing on his phone or something) then he is just being an arse

Phineyj · 02/03/2023 15:52

He is a complete wally.

He gets one weekend in four off and one week a year off.

You want to go away solo for a week.

That is a fantastic deal for him. 30 days for the price of 7!

If you split he could be doing every other weekend and half school holidays solo.

I hope he's discussed this with his mum!!

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