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To want to go to a festival with friends for a week?

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TwixLeStrange · 02/03/2023 14:49

Me and my DH have been married for 13 years, together for 16 years. We have two DD together, aged 7 and 11. Every 2 years, a group of university friends meet at a week long music festival. 7 years ago, I decided I'd like to go. We only had 1 DD at the time and she was 2 years old. Me and DH discussed it, he agreed it was fine for me to go and he'd get his Mum to help with DD. I booked the ticket but then he changed his mind. We had a big row about it, I eventually decided it wasn't worth it. I sold the ticket but said I would go in 7 years time.

7 years later it was cancelled anyway (COVID). Last year my time finally came. Again he wasn't happy but I went and had an amazing time. He looked after our kids and because his Mum lives with us now (not as bad as it sounds, as we get on well together), she helped out.

The festival is normally every 2 years but as it was cancelled during lockdown, they're doing it again this year and I'd like to go again. Again, his Mum will help looking after the children. He doesn't want me to go. He thinks it's bad for the family and traumatising for the children. They missed me last time and I missed them but we all got over it and I came home refreshed and happy. I don't see what the big deal is.

He said it was so challenging looking after them last time (the festival is during the school summer holidays) that he's going to take the week off work and take them somewhere nice. I thought that was a great idea. But then he said he doesn't want to come on our family holiday and we may as well have separate family holidays. I accused him of emotionally blackmailing me. Last year we still went on a family holiday. I've already booked accommodation for this years and told the kids about it, they're looking forward to it.

I conceded and said I wouldn't go. But then thought about it some more over the weekend and got more and more angry about the emotional blackmail and so changed my mind. I said, fine, he can stay away from the family holiday if he likes, I'll still take the kids and hope that he changes his mind about coming. I've offered to reciprocate and he can go away somewhere nice with his friends for a week but he doesn't want to. Equally, he doesn't want to come to the festival as he doesn't like camping or festivals.

Now he's saying he wants a divorce. He says we fundamentally want different things from a marriage. He thinks I want to 'carry on having a single life' while he wants to focus 100% on the kids. He doesn't want to be 'left to do everything alone at home' for 'weeks at a time' while I go off and do what I want. I asked him at what point he will think it's ok to go away without them for a week. He replied when they're at University, which I think is unrealistic. For context, I'm not some wild party girl who is always out. I'm not really a drinker. I'm a health nut who is always at the gym and prefers early nights and cultural events. The festival is a hippy, trance one with lots of yoga, talks on spirituality vegan food etc... I go out about once a month to meet a friend/friends for dinner/go to the theatre/art galleries etc... Last year's festival was the first time I'd been away from the kids in 10 years. I take the kids to my Mum's house one weekend a month and also for 1 week per year and he doesn't come with us so he gets lots of alone time to relax. But he's said he doesn't ask for this and he's right.

My issue isn't really about the festival. Of course my marriage is more important than a festival and if it was just this, I would skip it for this year. But I feel if I give in to this, I'll never be able to go on any of the other things I want to do in the future. Me and DH are very different and have different interests. But I've never thought that was a problem as long as we didn't stop each other from being who we are as people. I feel like he's trying to make me be someone else. AIBU?

OP posts:
Vegrocks · 03/03/2023 18:11

You will be back I’m afraid Op

Vegrocks · 03/03/2023 18:13

17.40

18.06

You manage to have a huge discussion, where he reveals Jamaica plans AND you manage to update mumsnet

all in 26 mins 😯

Prettybutdumb · 03/03/2023 18:36

TwixLeStrange · 03/03/2023 17:05

@CheersForThatEh Thank you, you've given me something to think about, as has everyone who has kindly taken the time to post here. I think you're right. He wants to spend more time together and this is his poor way of communicating that.

Hm… Does he still check out on weekends? Because he might just be resentful he has to parent when it’s clearly ‘your job’. You know better if he wants you to spend time together or if he needs you to give him weekends off.

MidgeHardcastle · 03/03/2023 18:55

Oh come on op, you know you'll have another argument about it in two years time. He really does know how to get his own way doesn't he?

Snugglemonkey · 03/03/2023 19:46

ClareBlue · 02/03/2023 15:02

Of course you should go. We are 30 years in and often go away with old friends separately and always have. It never traumatised any of our children and tbh he should be able for it without getting his mother to help. We also have very different interests which is one of the reasons we go to different places.
What you describe is not unreasonable at all. It's not going off for weeks on end or abandoning the family.
Generally we have found you come back happy and more connected and it is positive for everyone, including children.
Children are fine with their parents being away for a time, especially only one.
This comes across as a control thing in that it really isn't a big deal to look after your own children for a week, he isn't seeing you as an individual but just a mother and doesn't seem to want you to have any fun in life. I'd be worried it will get worse and all the fun will be sucked out of you day to day life

This is a great reply.

Spectre8 · 03/03/2023 21:06

Springchicken75 · 03/03/2023 12:55

It’s wet, muddy, cold and packed full drug dealers and people out of their heads. I used to go to world class festivals and they are all the same. Some are downright dangerous re: Reading. I would have a low opinion of my dh if his idea of a good time was to get shit faced for a week - just my view.

So you've been to Tomorrowland then? Where its blazing sunshine in July in Belgium, not muddy, not cold.

And do what some people do drugs. Reading is notorious for dickheads been off their heads cos its younger people who don't know how to handle it.

Tomorrowland has people from all ages and has never been dangerous.

I can say the same about other festivals I go to like a beach festival in Netherlands and Thailand, Croatia. EDC in miami and Las vegas are never cold or muddy or dangerous either.

You cant generalise and say all festivals are the like that, they really arent.

And not everyone who goes to festivals gets shit faced. I'm a sober raver no drink or drugs. I know plenty of people who go who don't do drugs but might only have a few drinks, merry but not pissed. I know other sober ravers.

You say you have a low view of your dh if he went. Id have a low view of anyone who stereotypes and generalises like you do, perhaps the immature one is you.

Tigp · 03/03/2023 21:15

@Vegrocks

indeed

Sarahcoggles · 03/03/2023 21:21

We'll see you back here in 2 years OP when he's objecting again!

Sarahcoggles · 03/03/2023 21:22

Vegrocks · 03/03/2023 18:13

17.40

18.06

You manage to have a huge discussion, where he reveals Jamaica plans AND you manage to update mumsnet

all in 26 mins 😯

Good point .

IDontWantToBeAPie · 03/03/2023 21:49

TwixLeStrange · 03/03/2023 18:08

UPDATE: We've managed to reach a good compromise here that we're both happy about. I'll miss the festival this year but go in 2025. Instead, I'll go with him and the kids to where he was planning to take them while I was away. Turns out the 'somewhere nice' he was planning to take them to was Jamaica!!! And it's festival season that month. We'll go to a daytime festival together while we're there, which he's happy about as there's no camping involved and it's reggae and he loves reggae. The best thing about this is that in 2025, there'll be no arguments about me going to the festival I missed this year as it's been pre-agreed well in advance.

Thank you to everyone who posted. You ladies are the BEST!

He will still argue in 2025.

He's gotten everything he wanted.

I hope it works out well and I'm wrong.

Spectre8 · 03/03/2023 22:08

IDontWantToBeAPie · 03/03/2023 21:49

He will still argue in 2025.

He's gotten everything he wanted.

I hope it works out well and I'm wrong.

Yeah I agree, worked super well he managed to put Op off for 3 more years so not even going next yr!

He knows she will always cave

MrsTerryPratchett · 04/03/2023 01:41

We've managed to reach a good compromise

You aren't doing what you want. He gets what he wants.

How is that a compromise?

AngeloMysterioso · 04/03/2023 03:55

I went to Glastonbury with a group of friends last year leaving my then 7 m.o and 2.5 y.o DC with DH. He was more than happy for me to go- so much so that he even paid for my ticket. I’m going this year too. He’s never come with me and I doubt he ever will, just like I’ll never go on a golfing weekend with him and his mates. It’s healthy for a couple to have things they enjoy independently of each other and it’s nice for the children to have some time with one parent. That’s what a good husband and partner does. Not the shitty stunt your husband keeps pulling that clearly works like a charm.

Springchicken75 · 07/03/2023 11:58

Spectre8 · 03/03/2023 21:06

So you've been to Tomorrowland then? Where its blazing sunshine in July in Belgium, not muddy, not cold.

And do what some people do drugs. Reading is notorious for dickheads been off their heads cos its younger people who don't know how to handle it.

Tomorrowland has people from all ages and has never been dangerous.

I can say the same about other festivals I go to like a beach festival in Netherlands and Thailand, Croatia. EDC in miami and Las vegas are never cold or muddy or dangerous either.

You cant generalise and say all festivals are the like that, they really arent.

And not everyone who goes to festivals gets shit faced. I'm a sober raver no drink or drugs. I know plenty of people who go who don't do drugs but might only have a few drinks, merry but not pissed. I know other sober ravers.

You say you have a low view of your dh if he went. Id have a low view of anyone who stereotypes and generalises like you do, perhaps the immature one is you.

Belgium is miserable and cold even in the summer. It’s hardly a Greek island. Tomorrowland sounds shit!! Sorry. What headliners do you have there?!
I think your attachment to festivals is fine but it can be filthy, grubby and grim even in blazing sunshine which was the case throughout last summer in the U.K. Amazing weather but doesn’t change the experience sadly.

MrsTerryPratchett · 07/03/2023 14:51

filthy, grubby and grim

I like travelling off the beaten track in the majority world. It's all of those things at times. Not everyone likes shiny, artificial, spotless, sterile things. Dubai or Vegas aren't my idea of fun.

Why don't you tell us what you like so we can be unkind about it?

Springchicken75 · 07/03/2023 15:02

I was trying to offer an alternative view! I am sure I don’t have the powers of influence to change anyone’s thoughts on festivals! Ifs just for some of us they are a living hell best confined to teen years.

Vegrocks · 07/03/2023 15:04

Springchicken75 · 07/03/2023 15:02

I was trying to offer an alternative view! I am sure I don’t have the powers of influence to change anyone’s thoughts on festivals! Ifs just for some of us they are a living hell best confined to teen years.

I agree @Springchicken75

but the key is “for some of us”

Clearly not the OP

in any event… the last we heard from the OP… the marriage had gone from pretty bloomin toxic and divorce likely to…. Hurrah… we’re off to Jamaica!

Vegrocks · 07/03/2023 15:05

In 26 mins!

MrsTerryPratchett · 07/03/2023 15:06

Springchicken75 · 07/03/2023 15:02

I was trying to offer an alternative view! I am sure I don’t have the powers of influence to change anyone’s thoughts on festivals! Ifs just for some of us they are a living hell best confined to teen years.

It's not an alternative view though. Because the debate isn't if festivals are good or not. The debate is whether OP should be allowed to be something she likes. What she likes is immaterial.

I don't fancy Jamaica either, it's not really relevant.

Springchicken75 · 07/03/2023 15:07

I think op somewhat missed the point. He just paid for a solution that she didn’t want. His festivals, listening to his music was not a compromise. I give up!

Springchicken75 · 07/03/2023 15:08

MrsTerryPratchett · 07/03/2023 15:06

It's not an alternative view though. Because the debate isn't if festivals are good or not. The debate is whether OP should be allowed to be something she likes. What she likes is immaterial.

I don't fancy Jamaica either, it's not really relevant.

Op is a fully grown adult, she is ‘allowed’ to do what she wants. Surely that doesn’t need pointing out even!

Springchicken75 · 07/03/2023 15:11

I would think my dh was in a full mid life crisis if he announced this plan. And yes I would question the relationship and whether we were still suited if his idea of fun was throwing shapes with kids half his age for a week 😂😂

EL8888 · 07/03/2023 15:14

strawberry2017 · 03/03/2023 18:11

Reading your post I think it's highly unlikely you will ever attend this festival whilst married to him. I think your kidding yourself he will stick to the agreement.

Yep, the festival you want to go to will never happen. But at least he’s got his way, very badly dressed up as a compromise

MummBRaaarrrTheEverLeaking · 07/03/2023 15:16

TwixLeStrange · 03/03/2023 18:08

UPDATE: We've managed to reach a good compromise here that we're both happy about. I'll miss the festival this year but go in 2025. Instead, I'll go with him and the kids to where he was planning to take them while I was away. Turns out the 'somewhere nice' he was planning to take them to was Jamaica!!! And it's festival season that month. We'll go to a daytime festival together while we're there, which he's happy about as there's no camping involved and it's reggae and he loves reggae. The best thing about this is that in 2025, there'll be no arguments about me going to the festival I missed this year as it's been pre-agreed well in advance.

Thank you to everyone who posted. You ladies are the BEST!

I guarantee you there WILL be arguments.

And what a fantastic comprise hey, you get a 2 year wait and just hope he keeps his word, and in return you go to the place that HE wants, to a festival of music HE likes (where he'll be off having fun and you'll probably be left with the kids). And no going off anywhere for you. Of course he's happy! He got what he wants right NOW.

And all he had to do was turn to a bunch of men on the internet who told him you were probably cheating, and threaten you with divorce! He's stitched you up like a kipper! Ah well, he's happy I guess Hmm

Vegrocks · 07/03/2023 15:17

Springchicken75 · 07/03/2023 15:11

I would think my dh was in a full mid life crisis if he announced this plan. And yes I would question the relationship and whether we were still suited if his idea of fun was throwing shapes with kids half his age for a week 😂😂

Again. You and your DH

given this OP clearly adores festivals and has expressed that for many many years to her partner… I don’t suppose it was a surprise to him