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To want to go to a festival with friends for a week?

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TwixLeStrange · 02/03/2023 14:49

Me and my DH have been married for 13 years, together for 16 years. We have two DD together, aged 7 and 11. Every 2 years, a group of university friends meet at a week long music festival. 7 years ago, I decided I'd like to go. We only had 1 DD at the time and she was 2 years old. Me and DH discussed it, he agreed it was fine for me to go and he'd get his Mum to help with DD. I booked the ticket but then he changed his mind. We had a big row about it, I eventually decided it wasn't worth it. I sold the ticket but said I would go in 7 years time.

7 years later it was cancelled anyway (COVID). Last year my time finally came. Again he wasn't happy but I went and had an amazing time. He looked after our kids and because his Mum lives with us now (not as bad as it sounds, as we get on well together), she helped out.

The festival is normally every 2 years but as it was cancelled during lockdown, they're doing it again this year and I'd like to go again. Again, his Mum will help looking after the children. He doesn't want me to go. He thinks it's bad for the family and traumatising for the children. They missed me last time and I missed them but we all got over it and I came home refreshed and happy. I don't see what the big deal is.

He said it was so challenging looking after them last time (the festival is during the school summer holidays) that he's going to take the week off work and take them somewhere nice. I thought that was a great idea. But then he said he doesn't want to come on our family holiday and we may as well have separate family holidays. I accused him of emotionally blackmailing me. Last year we still went on a family holiday. I've already booked accommodation for this years and told the kids about it, they're looking forward to it.

I conceded and said I wouldn't go. But then thought about it some more over the weekend and got more and more angry about the emotional blackmail and so changed my mind. I said, fine, he can stay away from the family holiday if he likes, I'll still take the kids and hope that he changes his mind about coming. I've offered to reciprocate and he can go away somewhere nice with his friends for a week but he doesn't want to. Equally, he doesn't want to come to the festival as he doesn't like camping or festivals.

Now he's saying he wants a divorce. He says we fundamentally want different things from a marriage. He thinks I want to 'carry on having a single life' while he wants to focus 100% on the kids. He doesn't want to be 'left to do everything alone at home' for 'weeks at a time' while I go off and do what I want. I asked him at what point he will think it's ok to go away without them for a week. He replied when they're at University, which I think is unrealistic. For context, I'm not some wild party girl who is always out. I'm not really a drinker. I'm a health nut who is always at the gym and prefers early nights and cultural events. The festival is a hippy, trance one with lots of yoga, talks on spirituality vegan food etc... I go out about once a month to meet a friend/friends for dinner/go to the theatre/art galleries etc... Last year's festival was the first time I'd been away from the kids in 10 years. I take the kids to my Mum's house one weekend a month and also for 1 week per year and he doesn't come with us so he gets lots of alone time to relax. But he's said he doesn't ask for this and he's right.

My issue isn't really about the festival. Of course my marriage is more important than a festival and if it was just this, I would skip it for this year. But I feel if I give in to this, I'll never be able to go on any of the other things I want to do in the future. Me and DH are very different and have different interests. But I've never thought that was a problem as long as we didn't stop each other from being who we are as people. I feel like he's trying to make me be someone else. AIBU?

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Bunnyishotandcross · 02/03/2023 15:56

Because he doesn't want you to see his way isn't healthy. A taste of another life is his worst nightmare..

Logburnerperils · 02/03/2023 15:59

He is a grade A knob head and you probably should divorce him. Imagine spending the next 40 years with such a man.

Cornelious2011 · 02/03/2023 15:59

He's an arsehole. Time away and a life outside of the family is really important. It's only a week. Your dc aren't babies and you have his dm living with you. The fact he doesn't want to do similar is irrelevant.

Ilovelurchers · 02/03/2023 16:03

Has he threatened divorce before when he hasn't got his own way?

Some men (and women no doubt) do this a lot. My dad still does it to mom occasionally and he is in his 90s and totally dependant on her. I always say to him, God, that would be a massive blow to her, wouldn't it dad .....

It's not a great thing to do obviously, and very childish. But if this is just his way then stick to your guns and he will get over it in time. But if this is a new thing and he genuinely means it, I guess you have a big decision to make....

Out starkly, you have to choose between a life with him but with limited freedom to do what you want (obviously freedom is almost always limited by a relationship to an extent, but still.....)

Or a life without him. This will potentially give you more freedom to an extent, as it sounds like he would be up for 50/50 childcare? But is harder in many other ways....

Probably hinges on whether you still love him, and if so, in what way and how much..... And could you stay in love with him believing he had emotionally blackmailed you out of something you wanted to do so badly?

ScreamingTree · 02/03/2023 16:05

FFS a festival once a year isn't "wanting a single life", nor will it traumatise 7 and 11 year olds. He's being ridiculous.

Shoxfordian · 02/03/2023 16:07

Sounds like you should take his offer of divorce and start instructing a solicitor

Knitterofcrap · 02/03/2023 16:07

YANBU.

Quietly stand your ground. Hopefully he will go ahead with his threats and your life will be much nicer!

Brefugee · 02/03/2023 16:08

so his issue is that he has no life or friends outside of you and his DC and he expects you to be the same?
Get the divorce he wants with 50/50 and make sure that he has them when you want to go to the festival. You will be happier and he can stew in his own juice.

A week away isn't traumatising for children, usually, if their dad and granny are there. Did you call them at all? Or did he spend all week sulking and saying "oh i bet you miss mummy" and "isn't it so much better when mummy is here" (my friend's DH did that.)

People who get breathing space to do their own thing, once every 2 years or so, are much happier and more relaxed in themselves. It's not your issue to solve that he's a billy no mates.

MidgeHardcastle · 02/03/2023 16:17

He wants to concentrate 100% on the dc but can't even look after them by himself? I think he needs to concentrate a bit more. Have fun at the festival!

Oblomov23 · 02/03/2023 16:17

What a knob. Damaging? Load of bullshit.

Hbh17 · 02/03/2023 16:19

Just go. You don't need permission from anyone. And of course your children won't be traumatised - that's a completely ridiculous idea!

TwixLeStrange · 02/03/2023 16:24

@Ilovelurchers Yes, he's threatened divorce before. Over this exact same issue which is perhaps why I gave in last time. I now realise what a mistake that was as he thinks that's the way to get his own way on it again. I do still love him and I know he loves me too. But I've waited a long time for the children to be old enough for me to start going out and enjoying myself from time to time and I'm not willing to give up my dreams. It's not what I signed up for when I got married. But he's saying the same thing - this is not the marriage he signed up for. And it sounds like he's more serious about it this time. I guess time will tell how serious he is about the divorce as I'm digging my heels in...

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Vegrocks · 02/03/2023 16:28

I’ll take a punt op

that your marriage generally isn’t in the best of health

Vegrocks · 02/03/2023 16:29

Yes, he's threatened divorce before. Over this exact same issue which is perhaps why I gave in last time.

so for the last 7 years, most of one child’s life and all the other… has been one with one threatening divorce and the other resentful of backing down?

Op, that isn’t a happy life for you and sire as heck not your children

Vegrocks · 02/03/2023 16:30

Just read your other thread about your marriage OP

this sounds absolutely awful, no one is happy

Poscapen · 02/03/2023 16:31

I think this tells you how much he values your marriage, which is very sad.

TwixLeStrange · 02/03/2023 16:35

@Vegrocks Yes, you're right. It's not the healthiest of marriages but I didn't think it was bad enough to divorce. We still have a healthy sex life. We still get on well most of the time. I thought we still liked each other but now I'm wondering if he only likes the person he thought he could make me be, if that makes sense. Maybe it is indeed best if we divorce. Because if he's willing to throw away 16 years of love and shared life together over this... it's probably for the best.

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Mariposista · 02/03/2023 16:36

'he changed his mind'. Who the hell does he think he is? Get rid of this horrible man. And enjoy your festival.

balzamico · 02/03/2023 16:40

I'm a sahm who goes away for almost a week every year without dh and kids. I've done it since they were little, its genuinely good for them as well as for me.

Vegrocks · 02/03/2023 16:47

TwixLeStrange · 02/03/2023 16:35

@Vegrocks Yes, you're right. It's not the healthiest of marriages but I didn't think it was bad enough to divorce. We still have a healthy sex life. We still get on well most of the time. I thought we still liked each other but now I'm wondering if he only likes the person he thought he could make me be, if that makes sense. Maybe it is indeed best if we divorce. Because if he's willing to throw away 16 years of love and shared life together over this... it's probably for the best.

According to your other thread (and actually this one too when I think about it), it sounds bloody awful

Vegrocks · 02/03/2023 16:48

But I suspect the only romantic relationship you have ever had?

TwixLeStrange · 02/03/2023 17:02

@Vegrocks No, not the only romantic relationship I've ever had but the only one that ever got serious enough for me to move in with him and then marry him. I'd be far more relaxed about divorcing him if we didn't have children together.

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christmascalypso · 02/03/2023 17:04

You have done nothing wrong. It's normal to do separate activities and have breaks away with friends without your DH. I've always done this from the outset and my DH wouldn't think of querying it or trying to stop me. He goes on his own sporty breaks with his mates.

Vegrocks · 02/03/2023 17:09

TwixLeStrange · 02/03/2023 17:02

@Vegrocks No, not the only romantic relationship I've ever had but the only one that ever got serious enough for me to move in with him and then marry him. I'd be far more relaxed about divorcing him if we didn't have children together.

But this sounds a horrible environment for children

and… you’d be able to go to festivals if you so wished (as long as when children with him!)

but op… don’t kid yourself that your children won’t be acutely aware that mum and dad have a pretty toxic relationship. Although if it’s all they’ve ever known 🤷‍♀️

HumourReplacementTherapy · 02/03/2023 17:51

God no don't give in, that's where misery lies.
I've always gone away with friends and there is nothing wrong with that at all.
Do you ever go away together without the kids or doesn't he approve of that either?
It'll only get worse as he gets older and his life gets smaller.
We always went to Glastonbury without the kids until they were a bit older and came with us so time away as a couple and time away on my own has been the norm.

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