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Roundabout with diagram , was I wrong?

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Ridelikethewindypops · 28/02/2023 19:20

I'm the red line, white van is blue line, he was behind me in my blind spot, yellow x is where I indicated to leave the roundabout. He blew me out of it.
This is the town I live in ( hopefully unrecognisable from the air 😀) But if I was wrong ( and I'm prepared to admit it if voting is unanimous ) Then I have been going around this roundabout incorrectly my whole adult life!

Roundabout with diagram , was I wrong?
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knittingaddict · 28/02/2023 21:52

YourUserNameMustBeAtLeast3Characters · 28/02/2023 21:47

But the Highway Code doesn’t say left lane for straight on (just ‘the most appropriate lane’). And its diagram is 2 lanes to 2 lanes. Although I’m a left hander (as the right lane people here have the issue of getting in and I prefer an easy life) I was taught either lane for straight on (1990s).

I’m surprised it’s a test failure given it doesn’t appear to be in the Highway Code? You also don’t know it’s only 1 lane exit until you’re already committed!

also OP is in Ireland so the rules may be different to U.K.

Why would people assume the "most appropriate" lane means right lane for going straight on? It means left lane for left or straight on and right for anything past that, unless the road signs and/or road markings tell you otherwise. The "most appropriate" lane here was the left lane.

When the highway code uses "most appropriate" they expect people to understand how roundabouts work.

Dogman · 28/02/2023 21:54

My experience of driving in Ireland is that people take a much more tailored and individual approach to roundabout usage. I think it may date back to the period where people didn’t have driving tests. The same holds true of dual carriageways. Btw I am Irish.

Ridelikethewindypops · 28/02/2023 21:54

It was me who started the Brooklyn Beckham thread however. But this is proving way more controversial!
The only rule on Irish roundabouts is there are no rules 😱

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AfraidToRun · 28/02/2023 21:54

This thread is terrifying!

SnackSizeRaisin · 28/02/2023 21:55

Ridelikethewindypops · 28/02/2023 20:07

I did check, I genuinely just didn't see him. He was quite a bit behind me, not sort of alongside me iykwim. I only became aware of him when he blew the horn and I craned my neck and saw him enter the lane behind me.

This is the issue, rather than the choice of lane.
Perhaps you tried to change lanes without properly checking whether anyone was there. If you were aware of what was around you that shouldn't have been able to happen because the van should have been visible either in your mirror or blind spot. If you didn't even realise there was an inside lane despite regularly using the roundabout it suggests you weren't really paying enough attention!

Of course it may be that the van driver approached too quickly - and it sounds like maybe he was, he sounds a bit aggressive hooting if he was quite a way back. He really should have let you do your manoeuvre rather than undertaking.

Really it's no different to changing into the left lane on a motorway. You always need to yield if someone is in that lane. However they could be at fault if they were undertaking at speed.

knittingaddict · 28/02/2023 21:56

AfraidToRun · 28/02/2023 21:54

This thread is terrifying!

It is a bit. (Hope we are talking about the same posts.)

Artemisty · 28/02/2023 21:56

The first one you were fine to be in that lane but you should have signalled and moved over earlier.

Ridelikethewindypops · 28/02/2023 21:56

My experience of driving in Ireland is that people take a much more tailored and individual approach to roundabout usage
That's my story and I'm sticking to it 😅

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knittingaddict · 28/02/2023 21:57

Artemisty · 28/02/2023 21:56

The first one you were fine to be in that lane but you should have signalled and moved over earlier.

🤔

Artemisty · 28/02/2023 21:57

Oh whoops hang on getting the pics muddled up. Ignore me. As you were.

SnackSizeRaisin · 28/02/2023 22:01

Ridelikethewindypops · 28/02/2023 21:51

No not me. I'm not arguing, I agreed on the first page I was in the wrong 🤷
I thought it was one lane one and one lane off, it's a roundabout in a shopping area, not main thoroughfare do not unusual to be single lane around here. Van entered roundabout after me, I didn't actually see him enter so not sure where, except he was behind me.
Anyway, I'll know for the future.

If he entered after you he was probably also at fault. He should have hung back rather than trying to nip up the inside.

SnackSizeRaisin · 28/02/2023 22:04

AfraidToRun · 28/02/2023 21:54

This thread is terrifying!

The scary thing is that people think that being in the "right lane" gives you the right to hoot and potentially crash into other drivers that you perceive to be wrong. If people just drove a bit more carefully, allowing for other people to make mistakes, the roads would be much safer.

DashboardConfessional · 28/02/2023 22:08

Is it really equal fault crashes on roundabouts? If was in the left lane going straight on and some noodle in the right lane decided to plough into me because someone told them it's Choose Your Own Lane Adventure in 1986, I'd be pissed off with a 50/50 fault!

Fromwetome · 28/02/2023 22:08

If this is what your road looks like then you were fine, if not then sorry OP. But at least you questioned it!! It's worse when people remain ignorant

Roundabout with diagram , was I wrong?
ChiefWiggumsBoy · 28/02/2023 22:08

There's a similar roundabout near me, but the '12 o'clock' exit is just slightly past the hour Grin with two lanes leading in, so people use both lanes. I know I have although I feel like I should only use the left lane to get from A to B. It's very busy as well so both lanes are used from A and into B.

Roundabout with diagram , was I wrong?
ChiefWiggumsBoy · 28/02/2023 22:10

Oh cross posted with @Fromwetome whose picture looks almost exactly like my real life roundabout!

Youraccountisnolongervalid · 28/02/2023 22:26

DashboardConfessional · 28/02/2023 22:08

Is it really equal fault crashes on roundabouts? If was in the left lane going straight on and some noodle in the right lane decided to plough into me because someone told them it's Choose Your Own Lane Adventure in 1986, I'd be pissed off with a 50/50 fault!

Not always, it depends on the roundabout and what each driver is saying and witness or CCTV or dash cam.

londonrach · 28/02/2023 22:28

The lane you were in was to turn right only. You were in the wrong

BaroldBalonz · 28/02/2023 22:34

Pop onto google street view and take a look at the sign before the roundabouts. That will tell you whether you were right or not, and also whether everyone else offering their opinions is right or not.

highfidelity · 01/03/2023 08:47

Ivebeenframed · 28/02/2023 20:38

Roundabouts can be very challenging. The Beckton roundabout that branches off to the A13 and A406 is a prime example of confusion. There’s 4 lanes and 4 exits. You think you’ve chose the correct lane for your exit but as with most roundabouts, you have to merge and so feel as though you are in the wrong lane. Now Charlie Browns roundabout (Woodford Green) on the other hand has the lanes marked out for each exit (of which there are 3). So you are in the correct lane from entering to exiting, never having to merge. I think all boroughs should adopt this concept.

Back when I learnt to drive, Charlie Brown's roundabout didn't have the lanes marked out.

SinnerBoy · 01/03/2023 08:55

You're both entitled to go ahead from either lane there. He's in the wrong, because he was behind and should have adjusted his speed accordingly, to allow you to exit safely. There are no arrows on the road to indicate otherwise.

That said, I'd probably have chose the left hand lane.

Englishash · 01/03/2023 09:06

You're wrong.

SinnerBoy · 01/03/2023 09:07

No, no I'm not.

kasho5 · 01/03/2023 09:09

When going straight ahead you’re fine to use either lane - he’s being an idiot

FiveShelties · 01/03/2023 09:28

picklemewalnuts · 28/02/2023 20:46

Salutary lesson to everyone here would be that everyone thinks they are right, and indeed may well be driving as they were taught to drive.

Don't assume you know what the other driver is doing.

and don't assume the other driver knows what they are doing either😁