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Roundabout with diagram , was I wrong?

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Ridelikethewindypops · 28/02/2023 19:20

I'm the red line, white van is blue line, he was behind me in my blind spot, yellow x is where I indicated to leave the roundabout. He blew me out of it.
This is the town I live in ( hopefully unrecognisable from the air 😀) But if I was wrong ( and I'm prepared to admit it if voting is unanimous ) Then I have been going around this roundabout incorrectly my whole adult life!

Roundabout with diagram , was I wrong?
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McPie · 02/03/2023 13:35

I was taught that if the sign before the roundabout has an exit 12 o'clock or before then use the left lane and after 12 o'clock then use the right lane unless the road markings state otherwise!

CombatBarbie · 02/03/2023 15:00

How many lanes are on the exit? If its 1.... You were in the wrong

knittingaddict · 02/03/2023 15:10

The op has confimed - 1.

NumberTheory · 02/03/2023 16:09

DashboardConfessional · 02/03/2023 12:58

But it's a single lane exit. If you could use both lanes they'd have to merge anyway!

Yes, you have to be aware of other drivers in the left hand lane also exiting and giveaway.

The correct lane to enter the roundabout can not be dependent on the number of lanes when exiting because a driver can’t necessarily know the number of exit lanes before they enter the roundabout.

knittingaddict · 02/03/2023 16:22

NumberTheory · 02/03/2023 16:09

Yes, you have to be aware of other drivers in the left hand lane also exiting and giveaway.

The correct lane to enter the roundabout can not be dependent on the number of lanes when exiting because a driver can’t necessarily know the number of exit lanes before they enter the roundabout.

That is why you use the left lane for straight ahead if there are no markings on the road or signs indicating otherwise.

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AnOldCynic · 02/03/2023 16:55

@Ridelikethewindypops I would have done the same as you and reading the Highway Code this is perfectly acceptable. As @Fansandblankets has pointed out.

SO YOU ARE NOT WRONG. But don't cut up anyone in the LH lane either.

NumberTheory · 02/03/2023 17:47

knittingaddict · 02/03/2023 16:22

That is why you use the left lane for straight ahead if there are no markings on the road or signs indicating otherwise.

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That’s a fine rule of thumb if you aren’t a confident driver. But it’s not a rule. It’s perfectly legal to use the right lane. You exit in basically the same manner as when you take a right hand exit off a roundabout.

But as with right hand exits you have to be sure you don’t cut up someone in the left lane.

knittingaddict · 02/03/2023 21:22

I'm loving all this "confident driver" rubbish. It's been said before on this thread. It's not confidence, it's bad driving.

Have you seen the diagram from the highway code posted on here more than once? It contradicts what you are saying. I think the writers of the HC would know, don't you?

NumberTheory · 03/03/2023 04:17

knittingaddict · 02/03/2023 21:22

I'm loving all this "confident driver" rubbish. It's been said before on this thread. It's not confidence, it's bad driving.

Have you seen the diagram from the highway code posted on here more than once? It contradicts what you are saying. I think the writers of the HC would know, don't you?

It was a single diagram showing some examples. It doesn't show all possible configurations or routes through.

If the highway code writers had meant "always take the left hand lane if your exit is before 12 o'clock" or "take the left hand lane for the first two exits". they could have written that. Instead of saying to take an appropriate lane and stay in lane until you need to exit.

It's not bad driving to not read stuff into the highway code that isn't there.

user1471447863 · 03/03/2023 18:18

NumberTheory · 02/03/2023 16:09

Yes, you have to be aware of other drivers in the left hand lane also exiting and giveaway.

The correct lane to enter the roundabout can not be dependent on the number of lanes when exiting because a driver can’t necessarily know the number of exit lanes before they enter the roundabout.

Exactly - without local knowledge or an unusually clear view you can't know the number of lanes on a particular exit until too late.

Either quite a number of more mature MN'ers are suffering from an episode of the Mandela effect or indeed a previous revision of the highway code did include a diagram showing a straight on manoeuvre being performed from either of the 2 entrance lanes.

Time for people to dust off the old bookshelves & find a historic copy

NumberTheory · 03/03/2023 18:29

user1471447863 · 03/03/2023 18:18

Exactly - without local knowledge or an unusually clear view you can't know the number of lanes on a particular exit until too late.

Either quite a number of more mature MN'ers are suffering from an episode of the Mandela effect or indeed a previous revision of the highway code did include a diagram showing a straight on manoeuvre being performed from either of the 2 entrance lanes.

Time for people to dust off the old bookshelves & find a historic copy

You think that only an old diagram could make it okay to do what is covered in the text of the current version?

Do we have to just not enter a roundabout with more than four exits because there’s no diagram showing us possible ways to go around?

is it impermissible to go all the way around because the diagram doesn’t show a route to do that?

what else are we unable to do if they haven’t bothered to draw it?

That’s a bit bizarre.

picklemewalnuts · 03/03/2023 18:33

You seem a bit invested in being right, KnittingAddict, and are claiming a diagram and the Highway Code prove you so when they actually don't. Your INTERPRETATION of the diagram and text do, my interpretation does not.

Crikeyisthatthetime · 03/03/2023 19:03

I think are lot of people are confusing good practice with the highest code. The diagram from the highway code only illustrates two possibilities. Right underneath that diagram, it says that drivers can choose the appropriate lane for any intermediate exits. So, that could be the Rh lane. But they must indicate and move over before they reach that exit, ie not cut up white van drivers coming up on the inside. The op was in the wrong if she cut up the van driver. The op was not in the wrong if the van driver was doing some reckless undertaking on the roundabout.
The HC doesn't mention number of exit lanes, or 12 o'clock. I think that's just something driving instructors say.

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