That every one has forgotten they all hated Camilla?

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I'm very puzzled why no one talks about how hated Camilla was the 80s/90s?? The tabloids absolutely tore her apart. But now she is 'Queen' and we have all conveniently forgotten. I have no personal interest in the royal family, I'm just perplexed.

I’ve always quite liked her.

I never said there's nothing to see here at all. What a strange interpretation.
I'm just saying that in history, it's usually more nuanced than stories tell.
I am sure that they were both aware of their age gap. Why would they not be?
I believe they celebrated birthdays.
Anyway. I genuinely think it's time to move on.

Charles dated Diana's sister, but made it clear that he wouldn't give up Camilla. Lord Spencer wanted one of his daughters to be the next Queen and would have pimped out any of them. Diana drew the short straw, but she knew what she was getting into. She was aristocracy and had grown up around the royals, holidayed in Sandringham etc. Diana did want to call it off because she hardly knew Charles, but her family convinced her that she wouldn't recover from the scandal, so the wedding went ahead. The Queen and the Spencer's are as much as fault as Charles. I don't think that the Queen ever understood modern life and how society was changing and made terrible mistakes.

@WiIson it wasn't a massive age gap for royalty and the time.

Lots of us didn't hate Camilla because we didn't give an arse anyway.

I'd personally like to see the monarchy abolished asap, but it's not specifically about Camilla.

Are you using the Royal 'we' or merely assuming that the whole country 'hated' Camilla?
for clarity: not EVERYONE hated Camilla. just as the Queen Mother was not EVERYONE'S favourite grandmother
Chas and Cam have been together for far longer than he was with Diana (the sainted 'mummy' as stated in the book 'Waaahhh!!'), so people need to get overthemselves

I did “hate” her, if one can actually hate someone they don’t know and will never meet, but in fairness I was young and stupid at the time. Now I’m glad they seem so happy together still, although do worry her smoking will put her on the other side of the grass long before him, and he’ll have to be king for decades more without any wifely support. (Look at his longevity genes!)

20 wasn't even considered too young to wed at the time. I think we prolong childhood a lot longer nowadays. If you were 20 in 1981, you were definitely an adult, not "just out of childhood". Plenty of people were still leaving school at 16.

12 years is a massive age gap. Especially when the youngest is 17. Even then.

Diana drew the short straw, but she knew what she was getting into.

Well clearly she didn't know what she was getting in to by her own account of it. Not many women would enter a marriage with another woman already in it. Particularly as her role really was to give Charles some credibility and provide him with children. And that's it.

But what's the alternative? "King Charles III and his adulterous whore of a wife opened a new wing at the Great Ormond Street Hospital". I don't think people have forgotten. They have just moved on. There has been new scandals since then. There are tons of celebs that have done similar or worse and are still thriving.

I have one friend who still hates Camilla. For context we are same age as Diana would have been. The hatred is bonkers.
Friend never met and of those involved, has zero skin in that game.

Charles, Diana, Camilla and all the others entangled in this web , made mistakes, probably hurt each other. But that’s hardly unusual in our society. It’s hard for those hurt, but that’s life.

I have seen Camilla in my local village, just going about her business. She’s polite and unassuming, smiley and real. I like her.

I’d like her too. We’re both smokers and horsey.

I never hated her, but there is a photo of her and Diana together before the wedding. Diana had said that Camilla had invited her out to lunch , and had asked if she intended going hunting. The answer was no, and Charles and Camilla continued meeting at the Beaufort hunt.
charles had other married mistresses, not just Camilla, and he was a man in his 30s, not 20 when he married Diana.
There is an interview with Richard Parker Bowles in which he says the affair continued throughout, and Camilla regarded Diana as stupid and naive. Not that nice to read. Diana was no saint, sure she could be difficult, but knowing her husband was still seeing another woman must have been bad.

Who is Richard Parker Bowlers?

Yep, this.

Nothing nice to say about either of them. (C or C)

Pretty strong to “hate” someone you’ve never met and whose never wronged you based on daily Mail shit stirring 30 years ago

I never hated her either. People make mistakes and time moves on, Diana was no saint either.

Camilla and Charles should have been together from the start, clearly make each other happy and I admire the fact that she took all the crap thrown at her in dignified silence. She's just quietly gotten on with things and done a huge amount for women's charities.

People still banging on about something that happened decades ago when Charles and Camilla have been married nearly 20 years clearly don't have enough going on in their lives. The vast, vast majority of people simply do not care!

OP:

I have never “hated” her. She seems ok.

So you just thought you'd remind everyone, OP? Nice!

You're welcome.

I don't think the vast majority of actual people gave a flying fuck.
It was the media. And they move on to the next target, then the next, then the next...
I remember when Catherine was scoffed at and called waity Katie. Now she's the media darling because there's a new woman to hate.

As long as they have a woman to hate, the media are happy.

True. Plenty of my friends married in their late teens, it wasn't considered young at that time. Diana was 20, hardly a child as some like to describe her.

Because it was almost 40 years ago and when everyone in the family has moved on, including the children who are now middle aged, married and parents themselves, it's time we did the same?

I don't think the argument of a divorced head of CofE is impossible it was the very reason CofE was started so if we can start that way why can't we continue.

Not really the point of the thread, but this is such a common misunderstanding. Henry VIII didn't divorce anyone. He split from the Roman Catholic Church in order to annul his marriage to Catherine of Aragon. Annulment and divorce are not the same things - they are granted on different grounds and have different consequences. Tbf, there probably was multiple grounds for annulment of Charles' and Diana's marriage - eg undue pressure on her from her family, he never had intention of keeping the vows. But that would have opened up a whole new can of worms with William and Harry being removed from the line of succession!