That every one has forgotten they all hated Camilla?

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I'm very puzzled why no one talks about how hated Camilla was the 80s/90s?? The tabloids absolutely tore her apart. But now she is 'Queen' and we have all conveniently forgotten. I have no personal interest in the royal family, I'm just perplexed.

"I don’t even think Diana hated by the end of her life, did she"

No she didn't seem to. She even spoke about the support that Camilla had given Charles over the years.

why are you stirring this up, OP?

I am of the age to have watched it all unfold in the press. I never hated her. I felt sorry for the lot of them to be honest. As mentioned above, by the end even Diana didn't seem to hate her.

I loved Princess Diana. I was 11 when they married and thought she was just so amazing. As I grew up u began to see the flawed woman she was. Same with Prince Charles (now King Charles)

Camilla yes she was hated but even back then I can recall asking "why didn't they just allow them to marry in the first place?" Charles clearly loves her why was it such a bad thing to allow him to marry the woman he loved. (I know because she wasn't of blue blood)

I dont think Charles and Diana were well suited. I do think Diana was a pawn in thus but so was Charles he was pushed to propose before her reputation was ruined. Again meddling that changed stuff.

So they had a disastrous marriage and they both did things I would say were "at fault" and they got divorced and Charles got to marry the woman he loved.

I personally am.ok with that. I don't think the argument of a divorced head of CofE is impossible it was the very reason CofE was started so if we can start that way why can't we continue.

As for Camilla.. yes she had an affair. Now she is married to her affair partner and I don't feel we can continue to point fingers. Life moves on and yes I think its right she becomes queen.

When Charles and Diana separated they suggested she would still be crowned Queen. I felt that was wrong. For me you are either all in or all out.

I dont hate any of them. I feel sorry for them on some level. Their life was dictated by certain expectations. I know several will go on about privilege with my saying that. Privilege and money doesn't buy you happiness.

I cannot feel hate for a couple in their 70s who are happy to be together.

I dislike her as much as ever

Wait, what you're saying it isn't true that Charles married Diana, a woman barely out of childhood, so that he could have children and continue the royal line, whilst really he wanted to be with Camila? And then Diana, thinking that Charles actually loved her, entered marriage with him, only to find there was another woman in that marriage with them both? None of that is true?

No-one who knows what they're talking about thinks that Charles looks like being a terrible monarch. Rather to the contrary, in fact.

I don't think it is true. I think that at the outset Charles genuinely wanted the marriage to work, and, as with all failed marriages, I don't think the reasons that it didn't were purely one sided.

Oh dear lord, I know.
All those mad posters insisting that Camilla's not the Queen. People still in thrall to the Cult of St Diana. Some posts on a recent thread were weird. Some clearly haven't moved on.

I thought about this too...My Dad had an affair in the late 80s and everyone referred to my new step mum as "Camilla" behind her back.

I distinctively remember people (they're all about 70-80 now) actually calling Camilla a "home wrecker"

It was everywhere and all very harsh.

Another thing, Our street are trying to organise a coronation street party and our older neighbours refuse to have anything with Camillas face on!

FYI: I adore my step mum and I quite like Camilla too 😊

Same age, @Lizziet64 and I agree with you.
I've never understood the canonisation of Diana.

I never hated Camilla. I'm in my mid-30s so missed the drama. I remember the nasty headlines around the time of her marriage to Charles but it just seemed petty and cruel.

I moved the UK when I was 8 and she died a few months later. I didn't know who she was until she died. What's interesting is that I grew up with Diana being painted as a saint. It's only in the last few years that newspapers have started showing that she was as flawed as anyone else.

It was the tabloids who ‘hated’ her. Stupid people who didn’t think for themselves decided they hated her too.
Now the tabloids have moved on to Meghan so the stupid people hate her now instead.

People who think for themselves realise that they don’t know these women and therefore have no strong feelings about them.

Love this and so true!

Which bit isn't true?

The huge age gap?

Or Camilla always being present in the marriage?

Even according to Diana this is what happened.

Surely her account of it is going to be more accurate than someone who wasn't there.

Unless you are Camilla? Are you?

her account of it is going to be more accurate than someone who wasn't there
Not necessarily. The way that Diana felt and interpreted events was not without bias. There are always different sides to the same story.

The only thing about Camilla hate that is relevant now is when Harry says that the Meghan hate was unprecedented and far worse than everybody else. I think Camilla got it far worse.

She forgot her age?
And his?
The massive age gap?
And Camila wasn't in their marriage at all.
Even though Charles ended up marrying her as soon as he was allowed to.

Nothing to see there at all.

Sure thing...

What is “tampon gate”?

The internet was in its infancy when Charles and Camilla for married ,,so whilst people may have "hated" her ,there were no online forums ,twitter,Facebook eff for people to discuss how much they hated her .

I don't think those of us who lived through those years have forgotten but since Diana's death much has been written and spoken about in documentaries about the "crowded marriage" so we all know far more than we did back then. We've also all had time to reflect and have probably matured ourselves and realised that relationships are complicated things and sometimes its best to leave the past behind and move forward.

If he had been allowed to marry the woman he actually loved a lot of pain and tragedy could have been avoided for many people.

Hate is a strong word to use about people who are strangers anyway.

I'm also a Republican and couldn't care less about them. I avoid royal births, weddings, jubilees, deaths, funerals and coronations like the plague.😚

But, I must admit to feeling some sympathy with Charles and Camilla over "tampongate". It was cringey, it was toe curling, and they must have been mortified.😳

But, millions of people have phone sex/sexy phone chats, where they talk about desires, fantasies etc; with those they love. Nothing unusual.

They aren't recorded though - it stays private between them.

Meanwhile, Diana was stalking married men by continuous hang up calls. I know what I find more creepy.

I don't know they are next to Godly though - all of them are only there by virtue of birth or marriage. Nothing special about them, so I don't get all the forelock tugging.

I'd prefer an elected head of state..

I personally couldn't care less about any of them. But the airbrushing of history to fit the establishment is so ridiculous. I tell my teenagers all this history so they know how stupid the whole idea of monarchy is.